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Post by JEagle on Oct 23, 2023 12:58:22 GMT -4
It's pretty laughable that fans were told the rebuild for this team is over and we were now expected to contend this season and next considering how extremely half-baked this team was built when you look at the roster.
Our number 1 goalie was drafted by previous management and in my opinion has never really lived up to his 1st Round Pick Billing while his back up who I imagine is expected to take the reigns next season is a 17yo playing his first season in North America.
The D-Core is made up of three middle of the road veterans who are expected to take the majority of the heavy load defensively and as already stated one of them the GM paid an exorbitant price for and hasn't played anywhere near the price paid for his services.
While the rest of the defence is made up of four young defencemen two of which are playing their rookie seasons at 17yo while the other two are in just their 2nd season, now one of them was the 1st Overall Pick but the team's building plan should have always been to build around him for when he was in his 18/19yo seasons not for when he was freaking seventeen.
Then lastly the forward core has been built upon some cast-offs from other teams who either haven't preform well offensively in the league or didn't fit their other teams cycle, more veterans/highly priced players brought in two seasons too early and rookies and 2nd year players still trying to find themselves in this league.
The fact this team is 7-6 after 13 games is frankly a freaking miracle and unfortunately for management/ownership expecting anything more from this team this season was never realistic as realistically this team was always two years away from potentially doing anything significant, now if ownership and management can actually get out of it's own damn way and actually develop players instead of trying to trade for stop gaps because the owner thinks it'll bring people into the rink and get him a Calder Cup maybe the young core can be salvaged.
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Post by scotiahockey on Oct 23, 2023 17:10:09 GMT -4
All these things have been said since Couturier was hired and the deals were made but yet people wanted to drink the kool-aid. The way this team is shaping up isn’t a surprise, it’s exactly how many have predicted it would go.
You can’t rush a rebuild and buy from the bottom, it never was a good idea and keeps proving why. Now I’m not sure it’s Couturier pulling the strings, his names attached to the deals but it’s an ownership directive I’m sure.
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Post by eagle78 on Oct 23, 2023 17:45:14 GMT -4
Shaw / Simon started this mess when Shaw became president and Simon became owner , Shaw is gone which is nice but now Couturier is continuing the mess that was started and it seems it’s getting worse , when will the bleeding stop ? In the attendance it’s definitely showing . I wish someone would come along and offer Simon an offer he can’t refuse and bring in people that are competent, they would mean bye Simon , bye Shaw as consultant to owner , bye to couturier and bye to Hanna. Also bye to the so called scouts . That would be a start
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 23, 2023 18:02:49 GMT -4
Shaw / Simon started this mess when Shaw became president and Simon became owner , Shaw is gone which is nice but now Couturier is continuing the mess that was started and it seems it’s getting worse , when will the bleeding stop ? In the attendance it’s definitely showing . I wish someone would come along and offer Simon an offer he can’t refuse and bring in people that are competent, they would mean bye Simon , bye Shaw as consultant to owner , bye to couturier and bye to Hanna. Also bye to the so called scouts . That would be a start They have a laughable amount of scouts as it is. You would probably have to hire some before you would let any go. There is nothing about this being done properly. The fact people like Hanna still exist in random roles while everything is done wrong is just insulting at this point.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 23, 2023 18:05:14 GMT -4
All these things have been said since Couturier was hired and the deals were made but yet people wanted to drink the kool-aid. The way this team is shaping up isn’t a surprise, it’s exactly how many have predicted it would go. You can’t rush a rebuild and buy from the bottom, it never was a good idea and keeps proving why. Now I’m not sure it’s Couturier pulling the strings, his names attached to the deals but it’s an ownership directive I’m sure. There are still people trying to sell us as ungrateful fans because of the empty seats and apathy. People just create scenarios with nothing based in any reality. Nobody can defend this while the team hovers around .500 and the team just looks terrible against good teams
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Post by gocapebreton on Oct 26, 2023 10:24:12 GMT -4
There is, imo, only one way for a small market team, in particular, to build. That is through the draft. Not extravagant buying from the bottom. They also most likely have to face reality, and the days of consistent 3000 plus in the seats are gone. They may get this for a couple of months of a one season run. But by buying, instead of building to win, will have worse repercussions with another few years of bottom feeding. We are all entitled to our opinions, and right or wrong I view the past few seasons of drafting, and trading, as under whelming at best. The past few years "best player available" was a widely used phrase. It would clearly appear this team had the decision made before the draft even started. Two of the past three seasons they traded down before the draft even started. This past draft I figured the Eagles, even though they had traded down, had landed atop ten rated prospect in Chandler or Conrad. As did the Eastlink commentators, I figured one of these two was a given. But it appears the Eagles had made a decision before the draft started, forget BPA. Then the trades. They trade Langlois, the captain and a good PP D on the powerplay only to spend heavy assets on less offensive point guys. Little wonder the PP is one of the worst in the league. Another headscratcher is the early points production of two very good young players in Shields and Patterson. Is Sheilds playing on the fourth line. If so,why? Build the kids confidence. If this team plans on competing next year, he should be a second line player. If this franchise wants to continue to exist in CB, again only my opinion, they had better take a long and hard look at the reality if they are truly ready to compete for a league title next year, and in particular at the cost of draining cupboards which have already had some heavy picking to this point. Build from the draft, build a competitive team that fans enjoy both watching and also enjoy watching future stars grow. Don't continue to buy heavy at the bottom.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 26, 2023 10:52:41 GMT -4
There is, imo, only one way for a small market team, in particular, to build. That is through the draft. Not extravagant buying from the bottom. They also most likely have to face reality, and the days of consistent 3000 plus in the seats are gone. They may get this for a couple of months of a one season run. But by buying, instead of building to win, will have worse repercussions with another few years of bottom feeding. We are all entitled to our opinions, and right or wrong I view the past few seasons of drafting, and trading, as under whelming at best. The past few years "best player available" was a widely used phrase. It would clearly appear this team had the decision made before the draft even started. Two of the past three seasons they traded down before the draft even started. This past draft I figured the Eagles, even though they had traded down, had landed atop ten rated prospect in Chandler or Conrad. As did the Eastlink commentators, I figured one of these two was a given. But it appears the Eagles had made a decision before the draft started, forget BPA. Then the trades. They trade Langlois, the captain and a good PP D on the powerplay only to spend heavy assets on less offensive point guys. Little wonder the PP is one of the worst in the league. Another headscratcher is the early points production of two very good young players in Shields and Patterson. Is Sheilds playing on the fourth line. If so,why? Build the kids confidence. If this team plans on competing next year, he should be a second line player. If this franchise wants to continue to exist in CB, again only my opinion, they had better take a long and hard look at the reality if they are truly ready to compete for a league title next year, and in particular at the cost of draining cupboards which have already had some heavy picking to this point. Build from the draft, build a competitive team that fans enjoy both watching and also enjoy watching future stars grow. Don't continue to buy heavy at the bottom. The days of consistent 3000 only happened for a short time period when the team had many consecutive solid seasons. I'm crazy enough to think it can actually get back to that....hell I think the potential is we could get 4000 averages in this market...but the problem is that the absolute bare minimum work needed to get to 2000 isn't even being done. Thats an interesting point about Langlois. Especially considering how bad the PP looks. Both Biggar and Schmitt have never looked great on the PP. Shields and Patterson were supposed to be pillars of the rebuild. Shields has 1+2 in 13 games. Patterson has 0+0 in 13 games. Its already easy to where whats going to happen at Xmas with some of these guys finding new homes.
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