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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 4, 2024 11:05:24 GMT -4
MR Jack Bauer fighting in the Q is banned thanks to the Quebec Government, have you been to a game before or sit on your couch? Have you experienced or watch the crowd stand up and cheer after cheer after a fight and sit down and look at their cell phone after a big goal , after a fight most rinks are for of electricity was my point I've been to games where talented players are taken out by goons with no role in the sport beyond "protection" I was a fan of the Q when a bus would roll in and the 4th line of a team could barely skate and were better positioned to be MMA fighters as a career path. This romanticizing of fighting is just nonsense. In what world are people staring at their phone after a big goal yet electric after every fight? In what league were people standing and cheering every fight? For the last 20 years WITH fighting it was never like that. And when the league had 3-4 guys on each team that could fight the standing and cheering tended to mostly happen during brawls that had no place in the sport and led to many serious injuries. The reality is there's just way less injuries and more importantly considerably less head injuries without the goons in the sport. You can pretend people sold out rinks and stood in unison for every fight while browsing their phone during all other key aspects of the hockey season but you're not convincing anyone here with that completely laughable recollection of history. The reality nobody likes to hear is that even at the absolute peak of the fighting era there were only a handful of really great fighters and it was mostly a complete gong show by letting it become what it did. And while the game is calmer and more boring now it is insanely safer. And in case you haven't noticed....people have not left the sport in droves to take up watching MMA. Hockey is surviving just fine without neanderthals "protecting" elite talent from other neanderthals which is all their role really was for 100 years. |
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 4, 2024 11:26:39 GMT -4
MR Jack Bauer fighting in the Q is banned thanks to the Quebec Government, have you been to a game before or sit on your couch? Have you experienced or watch the crowd stand up and cheer after cheer after a fight and sit down and look at their cell phone after a big goal , after a fight most rinks are for of electricity was my point Fighting isn't really banned, it just generates a 5 and a game. There have been 9 fights so far this year (as of Nov 1) and 2 involve SJ. |
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Post by qfan24 on Nov 4, 2024 11:33:11 GMT -4
MR Jack Bauer fighting in the Q is banned thanks to the Quebec Government, have you been to a game before or sit on your couch? Have you experienced or watch the crowd stand up and cheer after cheer after a fight and sit down and look at their cell phone after a big goal , after a fight most rinks are for of electricity was my point Well I say thanks to Quebec government for preventing unnecessary brain injuries to young adults. Quebec still has their LNAH league where older/more mature men hit the shit out of each other. So government stepped in more to protect teens/young adults. I don't see anyone crying that there are no fighting in the NCAA |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 4, 2024 11:36:25 GMT -4
MR Jack Bauer fighting in the Q is banned thanks to the Quebec Government, have you been to a game before or sit on your couch? Have you experienced or watch the crowd stand up and cheer after cheer after a fight and sit down and look at their cell phone after a big goal , after a fight most rinks are for of electricity was my point Fighting isn't really banned, it just generates a 5 and a game. There have been 9 fights so far this year (as of Nov 1) and 2 involve SJ. The thing I always find the funniest when people turn to how fighting excites and energizes crowds like absolutely nothing else in the sport is that they have no explanation for why NCAA rinks tend to have considerably more excitement and atmosphere in the crowd from the fans in spite of the players never being allowed to fight. People actually try and sell the lack of fighting in the Q as some element lacking that will keep the kids from being tough enough to play pro hockey. Yet there's no explanation for how so many pro-ready players come out of an American development system that has never had fighting. Its painful watching people try and make this argument as if they're adding anything new to the argument when all they're doing is reciting 2006 coaches corner segments. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 4, 2024 11:37:39 GMT -4
MR Jack Bauer fighting in the Q is banned thanks to the Quebec Government, have you been to a game before or sit on your couch? Have you experienced or watch the crowd stand up and cheer after cheer after a fight and sit down and look at their cell phone after a big goal , after a fight most rinks are for of electricity was my point Well I say thanks to Quebec government for preventing unnecessary brain injuries to young adults. Quebec still has their LNAH league where older/more mature men hit the shit out of each other. So government stepped in more to protect teens/young adults. I don't see anyone crying that there are no fighting in the NCAA I'm sure these folks also boycott the WJHC every Christmas as there's no way it can do anything for the development of elite players without fighting being a part of the event. |
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Post by jrob on Nov 4, 2024 11:49:50 GMT -4
Have u not seen the list of injuries in hockey Mr Bauer , bri check the suspensions after fights in the Q, let me know what happens if you fight more then once
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Post by jrob on Nov 4, 2024 11:51:50 GMT -4
I was at all the games this week , people all
Over the place looking at their cell
Phones while the game is going on or after a goal, guarantee if their was a fight going on they would be paying attention
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Post by davo1997 on Nov 4, 2024 12:06:25 GMT -4
I was at all the games this week , people all Over the place looking at their cell Phones while the game is going on or after a goal, guarantee if their was a fight going on they would be paying attention Answer the question as to why the NCAA does as good as they do with cages and no fighting? |
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Post by qfan24 on Nov 4, 2024 12:24:09 GMT -4
I was at all the games this week , people all Over the place looking at their cell Phones while the game is going on or after a goal, guarantee if their was a fight going on they would be paying attention 1- we are in 2024 people are already always looking at their cell 2- So a 30 second fight would make people look at what? the fight, and then what? back on their cell? Fights are definitely not a factor to get more people to attend. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 4, 2024 12:37:55 GMT -4
Have u not seen the list of injuries in hockey Mr Bauer , bri check the suspensions after fights in the Q, let me know what happens if you fight more then once You're arguing there are more injuries now? |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 4, 2024 12:40:57 GMT -4
I was at all the games this week , people all Over the place looking at their cell Phones while the game is going on or after a goal, guarantee if their was a fight going on they would be paying attention Been to a concert lately? People on their phones. Until a fight breaks out in the crowd. Been a passenger on a long car ride? Probably on your phone. Until you drove by an accident. Arguing that people enjoy quick side shows of entertainment during their event is not a justification that the side show has to exist during that event. Especially when its a key cause of injuries and creates a needless idea that the intensity has to escalate to uncontrollable emotions that has not made any sense in society in almost 100 years but is only now finally being handled the way it always should have been. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 4, 2024 12:52:10 GMT -4
I was at all the games this week , people all Over the place looking at their cell Phones while the game is going on or after a goal, guarantee if their was a fight going on they would be paying attention 1- we are in 2024 people are already always looking at their cell 2- So a 30 second fight would make people look at what? the fight, and then what? back on their cell? Fights are definitely not a factor to get more people to attend. You literally have to wonder why anyone would buy a ticket if they actually thought this way. This logic that if I don't get a boxing round during this hockey game there's no entertainment value in it is just fucking weird. You can argue not having it makes you personally attend less. Completely different argument. I can agree it lessens the overall emotions and rivalries and changes it a bit to the negative. But the other side of that is better health for all and less needless violence that was all too common. |
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Post by dc00704 on Nov 4, 2024 19:17:02 GMT -4
I will try and get back to your question on attendance in Saint John. Its basic economics, look at how the parking lot is half full but the outside lots are full. Why? Cause people don't want to pay $7 to park. This leads to attendance, when ticket prices are as high as $28 per ticket in a blue collar town with people struggling to buy groceries and pay rent then your attendance is going to drop off. Seniors make up the largest portion of Season ticket sales as they (the tickets) are a bit cheaper and the seniors likely have more disposable income. It's expensive to run a Q team and most don't have the budget the Dogs have and I don't blame ownership but its becoming a tough sell to pay that kind of money on a regular basis to watch Jr hockey. There Family packs are one good way to try and get families to come but there is no easy answer
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Post by Reesor on Nov 4, 2024 19:37:29 GMT -4
Saint John had some pretty bad luck with Covid. They hosted the Memorial Cup in 2022, and when teams usually see a big boom in attendance, theirs fell because of Covid restrictions and the fallout of Covid where thousands of people were apprehensive of being in big crowds. When they could've gain some momentum in the playoffs, they got upset by Rimouski in round one.
There's a large chunk of fans that haven't seen Saint John at a good team since 2016-17.... going on eight years ago. They've lost a lot of momentum, but they have some good young players now and should be turning it around very shortly. They're already doing better than expected and it's only a matter of time before people take notice and start returning to the rink.
Halifax has been extremely aggressive with their advertising and promotions in an attempt to prevent the massive downturn in attendance that typically follows a go-for-it year. They've had 8000+ in four of eight home games so far and have been doing it with social media advertising, theme games, light shows, a huge Moose, and ticket promotions. $12 upper bowl adult tickets last Friday night. They're filling the rink with cheap tickets and secondary entertainment value in a year where they know they're going to lose 70% of their games. It's a proactive approach that they should've done years ago, and one that I think all teams can benefit from in an environment that has such massive swings between good years and bad years. those empty seats aren't going to buy popcorn, beer and foam fingers. Get creative with advertising and entertainment, and people will come to the rink. Creativity doesn't have to mean a Spice Girls tribute band. Just $12 tickets can be enough to spark interest.
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