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Post by gritty506 on Dec 5, 2024 11:42:19 GMT -4
It's hard to understand what the ''plan'' is for this team. The Titan have very promising young players that don't get a fair amount of playing time IMO.
With 3 first round picks (2 lottery) in a deep talented draft coming up and with all the promising prospects, this team in 3 years could be very strong.
Maybe the Titan will be sold shortly and the owners/management is going to try to go for it this year or next ?
But then again, what do you have in your hand to go for it ? Our 20's with the exception of Fleming are very average... Our 19s also...
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 5, 2024 11:52:46 GMT -4
not going to lie, the games have kinda been boring to an extent...which is a shame because there is a lot of talent here. But last years team was way more energetic and fun. They definitely need to make some moves to shake up the roster. It's possible we lose the next 2 of 3 and fall further as well because we have Moncton and Rouyn coming up. I agree on Belanger, he started the year really strong in a handful of games but really hasn't found his offensive game since. Definitely need him to bounce back. Arsenault I can understand moreso cause he's 16 and on the 4th line, but if given more ice time after Christmas I'd hope to see a bit more out of him too. Marmulak and Goguen have been good as of late and hopefully they keep that up but St-Onge, Lallier, Clements, and Buteau, and a few others have all been disappointing lately. too many guys on this roster who are cold.. I agree Marmulak and Goguen are great players rn. It may cost but i think it would benefit Belanger and others if we add a new 20 yo who can score doesnt have to cost alot but Buteaus time has to be done in bathurst. If rimouski adds a Euro id be on Simek if i was gordie given more oppurtunity he could be a decent forward for the team. Lailler should be moved at the deadline i think he can fit in with a team like BLB and he would cost them little to nothing. Regardless this roster needs change like you said watching the team is getting boring. yup I agree, honestly I think Minville is the perfect fit we need but spending assets on a top OA is still not that ideal...so the trade would have to make a lot of sense. But him being on the wing for Goguen or Belanger to feed the puck to could do wonders. I also agree on Buteau, he's an OA playing 3rd pairing time now and still struggling, besides his size he isn't offering as much as expected. I think we add a euro at some point, Simek does make some sense since he can't go back to SJ I believe if they acquire Mateiko. But he's still another smaller fringe type forward. Not sure how much better he does here on a weaker team. Yeah I think Lallier's time here is coming to an end, it's possible he bounces back elsewhere but yeah I think moving him in order to give some time to the younger guys is likely ideal. He can still provide some energy to a teams 3rd line. St-Onge is another I'd move as well. Could be valuable for a contenders bottom 6 and brings speed and PK time. Pilgrim-Edwards as well. Keeping Coulombe as he has size and could potentially come back as an OA, and then getting 2 solid futures if possible would be ideal. (in a Perron or Clements deal) |
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 5, 2024 12:03:08 GMT -4
It's hard to understand what the ''plan'' is for this team. The Titan have very promising young players that don't get a fair amount of playing time IMO. With 3 first round picks (2 lottery) in a deep talented draft coming up and with all the promising prospects, this team in 3 years could be very strong. Maybe the Titan will be sold shortly and the owners/management is going to try to go for it this year or next ? But then again, what do you have in your hand to go for it ? Our 20's with the exception of Fleming are very average... Our 19s also... they're kinda stuck between being good and bad. Being one of the worst offensive teams but also being one of the best defensive teams is crazy. Complete opposite ends of the spectrum. But it's showing more and more as of lately that not being able to score is catching up to us and we're losing more games because of it. Fleming and our defensive play can't carry us every single game, offense has to be there more than it currently has. Titan literally would be foolish to go for it this year, there's 7 contenders and unless we outbid them all for 4-5 big pieces I don't see us being a contender. We'd need to get the likes of Mateiko, Cote, Lavigne, Larose, and then a D-man as well like Golicic or someone. And even then we could still lose to a Rimouski or Moncton early. Not to mention this would cost 4+1sts and prospects/futures. those lottery picks shouldn't be moved, those 2 guys you get with those will likely be worth more in the long run to help build a championship squad around or to be offered as futures/chips in future deals. If there's a deal out there for our 1st then you can probably make a deal but I wouldn't spend it on anything big for this year like an OA or 19 YO. IF the Titan are sold and plan to move then I can't see them buying for this year either, they will want a winning team in Saint John's earlier > later. our 19s are mid this year for sure outside of Perron and Clements and maybe Pilgrim-Edwards the others don't have high value. So likely the best case is sell what we can, try to get futures in deals for next year, and add 17s to our current core. It's pretty clear Belanger/Goguen/Marmulak/Reynolds core is the core to build around so adding guys to that age group means next year when they're 18 we can be competitive and a top 8 team in the league (maybe better?) and then when they're 19 they go for it. That's what I think the best case scenario is for how the team is currently built and what we have in the cupboards. This also means you likely have Gauthier/Daniele/Arsenault/Proulx? at 18 who can be offered as futures after a run, or the 2 lottery guys at 17 (if they end up like Desnoyers/L'Heureux/Lapierre/etc.) then we're golden and will bring back a boatload for a future rebuild after that. |
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Post by davo1997 on Dec 5, 2024 13:07:48 GMT -4
It's hard to understand what the ''plan'' is for this team. The Titan have very promising young players that don't get a fair amount of playing time IMO. With 3 first round picks (2 lottery) in a deep talented draft coming up and with all the promising prospects, this team in 3 years could be very strong. Maybe the Titan will be sold shortly and the owners/management is going to try to go for it this year or next ? But then again, what do you have in your hand to go for it ? Our 20's with the exception of Fleming are very average... Our 19s also... The plan is to build around the 2025 picks it will be really good top 10 this year is unreal going to be an excititng draft for the titans. Id like to see the titans Trade pilgrim edwards and St-onge but seems guys like them are being had for free via the BCHL and other leagues so i dont know the value would be worth it. Teams problem is no elite 19s or 20s that can put the puck in the net bring in two and this team can be a serious problem come playoff time. |
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Post by patrick on Dec 5, 2024 19:00:06 GMT -4
Belanger doesn't seem to be in his element right now, like Clemens.
Could a three-way trade be profitable?
Clemens (19) to Rimouski
Belanger (17) to Victoriaville
Victoriaville
Lavigne (19) to Bathurst
Houde to (19) to Rimouski
Rimouski
Pare (18) to Victoriaville
Pilote (18) to Bathurst
A few choices around that..
Lavigne could be a 20-year-old in Bathurst, with Perron and St-Onge next year. That would be an excellent base to allow the youngsters to continue their progression.
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Post by davo1997 on Dec 5, 2024 19:51:49 GMT -4
Belanger doesn't seem to be in his element right now, like Clemens. Could a three-way trade be profitable? Clemens (19) to Rimouski Belanger (17) to Victoriaville Victoriaville Lavigne (19) to Bathurst Houde to (19) to Rimouski Rimouski Pare (18) to Victoriaville Pilote (18) to Bathurst A few choices around that.. Lavigne could be a 20-year-old in Bathurst, with Perron and St-Onge next year. That would be an excellent base to allow the youngsters to continue their progression. Trading Belanger isn't a good idea especially cause we have to sell low |
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 5, 2024 21:33:56 GMT -4
Belanger doesn't seem to be in his element right now, like Clemens. Could a three-way trade be profitable? Clemens (19) to Rimouski Belanger (17) to Victoriaville Victoriaville Lavigne (19) to Bathurst Houde to (19) to Rimouski Rimouski Pare (18) to Victoriaville Pilote (18) to Bathurst A few choices around that.. Lavigne could be a 20-year-old in Bathurst, with Perron and St-Onge next year. That would be an excellent base to allow the youngsters to continue their progression. Houde is a 20, so it doesn’t really work. Not to mention I think Rimouski would likely be in on Lavigne themselves. Pilote and Pare would be good pick ups but I also don’t see Rimouski moving them this year. While Belanger has struggled as of late I still think he’s one of our main guys to build around. |
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Post by davo1997 on Dec 6, 2024 9:38:14 GMT -4
4 trades i can see the team making not all of them but id like to see things like this done.
1. AB recieves
Emile Ricard
CB receives
2025 2nd rd pick
2. AB receievs
Evan Depatie
VDO recieves
2026 1st rd pick
3. AB receives
2025 3rd rd pick
BLB receievs
Alex Laillier
4. AB receives
Olivier Houde
VIC receives
FJ Buteau
2025 3rd rd pick
Id like to see the team move as many guys that wont be back next season
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 6, 2024 9:39:47 GMT -4
Honestly, if there's somehow a deal out there with Val d'Or for Depatie + Veilleux I think the Titan should consider it. Both guys are doing great and would be huge pieces to the current core. Not sure this gets done without giving Val d'Or their lottery pick back though...
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 6, 2024 9:42:34 GMT -4
4 trades i can see the team making not all of them but id like to see things like this done. 1. AB recieves Emile Ricard CB receives 2025 2nd rd pick 2. AB receievs Evan Depatie VDO recieves 2026 1st rd pick 3. AB receives 2025 3rd rd pick BLB receievs Alex Laillier 4. AB receives Olivier Houde VIC receives FJ Buteau 2025 3rd rd pick Id like to see the team move as many guys that wont be back next season Ricard rumored to be going to Chicoutimi. I would love Depatie in Bathurst. Especially if we move Perron + Clements. Lallier to Blainville could make some sense. Doubt Victo moves Houde, he's at a point per game for them and even after their likely big moves they'll still need someone who can score and not sure Buteau + a 3rd gets that done. honestly if Titan were to move Buteau somewhere, maybe they can have Charles-Antoine Lavallee out of Chicoutimi for free or cheap. He was having a decent season with them but now that Gaudet is back he's the odd man out. Could bring some much needed size to this lineup + a bit of depth scoring. |
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Post by davo1997 on Dec 6, 2024 9:42:42 GMT -4
Honestly, if there's somehow a deal out there with Val d'Or for Depatie + Veilleux I think the Titan should consider it. Both guys are doing great and would be huge pieces to the current core. Not sure this gets done without giving Val d'Or their lottery pick back though... Veilleux will cost us there pick back for sure. |
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 6, 2024 9:45:52 GMT -4
Honestly, if there's somehow a deal out there with Val d'Or for Depatie + Veilleux I think the Titan should consider it. Both guys are doing great and would be huge pieces to the current core. Not sure this gets done without giving Val d'Or their lottery pick back though... Veilleux will cost us there pick back for sure. yeah...over a point per game at 17 and he's been on fire lately but he would fit the core perfectly...might be the 1 deal where I'd consider the lottery pick if Depatie is somehow involved too lol. |
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Post by davo1997 on Dec 6, 2024 10:02:03 GMT -4
Veilleux will cost us there pick back for sure. yeah...over a point per game at 17 and he's been on fire lately but he would fit the core perfectly...might be the 1 deal where I'd consider the lottery pick if Depatie is somehow involved too lol. Veilleux and depatie would fit very nice for this squad id trade Valdor 1st back to them in a heart beat. still for depatie and Veilleux i feel that there pick back isnt enough. final trade could look like this. AB receives Veilluex depatie Valdor receives 2025 1st VDO Leo Gauthier Thomas Morin |
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 6, 2024 10:03:48 GMT -4
yeah...over a point per game at 17 and he's been on fire lately but he would fit the core perfectly...might be the 1 deal where I'd consider the lottery pick if Depatie is somehow involved too lol. Veilleux and depatie would fit very nice for this squad id trade Valdor 1st back to them in a heart beat. still for depatie and Veilleux i feel that there pick back isnt enough. final trade could look like this. AB receives Veilluex depatie Valdor receives 2025 1st VDO Leo Gauthier Thomas Morin honestly I'd be ok with that I think, Veilleux is looking like a stud and could be an 80+ point guy at 18 or 19. Depatie is on pace for a 50 point season as well. Both would be huge adds. |
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Post by hky16 on Dec 6, 2024 10:08:03 GMT -4
I think coming up with a different look on our PP would change everything, in the last 3 games we are 0/9, I hate the zone entry we have but the NHL does it, so all the Jr teams do it too, it's great that we're one of the best defensive teams in the league but having a PP that's clicking everynight allows you to win more games
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