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Post by chaos12 on Aug 20, 2007 5:19:46 GMT -4
According to the times and transcript
looks like Dimitrik and his family wanna see him play for the wildcats so looks like we got are top 4 defence man now,.
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Post by Wild74 on Aug 20, 2007 7:32:58 GMT -4
According to the times and transcript looks like Dimitrik and his family wanna see him play for the wildcats so looks like we got are top 4 defence man now,. From this morning paper... Paul Dimitruk, a highly touted American defenceman, went home on Saturday night. The 17-year-old could save his eligibility for U.S. college hockey, but he's made it known he's prepared to commit to the Wildcats.
"The father wants him here and the boy wants to be here,'' said Flynn. ``It's just a matter now of the Wildcats and the Dimitruk family trying to come up with an education package that everybody is happy with. I think we'll know where we're at by Thursday. We're hopeful that we can work something out and he can play the second exhibition game.''On a seperate note, Hodge also noted that six players had been cut... Moncton cut six players on the weekend: Defencemen Pierre-Luc Brousseau and Adam Miceli and forwards Simon Jodoin, Brett Frazee, Andrew Pettitt and Bryan Warner. Jodoin and Frazee (both eighth round) and Brousseau (12th round) were taken in the 2007 QMJHL draft. Miceli, Pettitt and Warner were free agents.
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Post by Wheelies on Aug 20, 2007 7:37:26 GMT -4
That is awsome for the Wildcats..He is a great kid to watch..I'm glad he came to camp..
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Post by jimmy on Aug 20, 2007 8:28:40 GMT -4
A bit surprised based on what I have seen and heard to see Miceli and Pettit in this round of cuts - both seemed to be having strong camps ...
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Post by CatsFan on Aug 20, 2007 8:43:17 GMT -4
A bit surprised based on what I have seen and heard to see Miceli and Pettit in this round of cuts - both seemed to be having strong camps ... Great news to hear that Dimitruk has committed to the Cats. However, I too am a little surprised with Miceli being cut. I thought he was playing good & having a strong camp. I thought he would maybe have a chance in sticking & battling for a spot here.
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 20, 2007 8:47:36 GMT -4
A bit surprised based on what I have seen and heard to see Miceli and Pettit in this round of cuts - both seemed to be having strong camps ... Yes ... so was I. Not so much on Pettitt but I was really impressed by Mecelli. He does everything well and is only 18. If we are adding a FA Dman it would make more sense to add Mecelli than any of the others IMO. If we add in Demitruk ... I'd have him as a 5 or 6 guy this year ... then our D will look something like this ... Pianosi - Baca Barberio - Tolles Goyens - Demitruk Goyens or Tolles could easily be replaced by Gomes ... Tolles has very little experience ... while Goyens brings a bit of toughness and good size. Goyens reminds me a bit of Max Desruisseaux ... good size but just average skills. I can't see them adding another 19 yr old like Gomes unless it comes at the expense of a guy like Tolles ... and frankly I'd rather go with Gomes than Tolles if I had to choose. I'd rather have Mecelli than either of them ... too late for that I guess. If they cut a 19 YO Dman (Tolles or Gomes or Goyens) I can see them adding Little and Firlotte ... if they don't cut a 19 YO then they will just add Firlotte. I think we will break camp with 8 Dmen and then maybe cut one down the road. Firlotte is only 17 but has great size and strength for his age and handles himself well on the ice. He'd be a #7 guy and be in and out of the lineup all year ... could be a very solid Dman at 19. Our D will not be as bad as we all thought ... Baca is a great pickup ... and Barberio has added considerable size and plays like a 19 yr old. We still will lack that offensive punch from the blue line and will probably struggle a bit on the PP (thats nothing new) but Flynn is a PP master and will make it work somehow. As long as we can get solid goaltending we should be a tough team to play against ... and stay ahead of SJ, SJ's and CB ... maybe battling PEI for 4th. Edit: Eastman could still figure into the D corps if he ever gets back on the ice.
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Post by jimmy on Aug 20, 2007 8:52:27 GMT -4
Is Matt Firlotte any relation to former Fog Devil/Titan defenseman Zac Firlotte? Both from Fredericton area, both d-men, similar build ... are they by chance brothers?
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Post by IslandersHKY on Aug 20, 2007 8:59:46 GMT -4
Nice to see the Wildcats are able to buy another player. This season could have been a whole lot different if you were on an even playing field with everyone else.
Marquardt - Mangan - Bezak Cameron - Labelle - Eagles Lessard - Sill (was he bought?) - Brannon
MacAusland - Brown - Watson
Pianosi - Baca Barberio - Demitruk Goyens - Tolles
Without those guys this team is battling to stay ahead of Cape Breton and looks to have a tough few years of development.
Instead I agree with Steve it looks like this team could be battling for home ice advantage.
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Post by curtis on Aug 20, 2007 9:12:21 GMT -4
Sill was drafted. For that matter, so were MacAusland, Brown, Pianosi, and Demitruk.
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Post by canucklehead on Aug 20, 2007 9:22:51 GMT -4
Sill was drafted. For that matter, so were MacAusland, Brown, Pianosi, and Demitruk. Unfortunately that doesn't mean players aren't bought anymore it's just the nature of the beast now. It's not just Moncton either but that's the way the league is being run right now and they are doing nothing to change it they are playing well within the rules though so can't really complain much.
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Post by curtis on Aug 20, 2007 9:29:41 GMT -4
I guess Mangan can be crossed off Hockeyfan99's list too, since he was a FA.
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Post by Penguins23® on Aug 20, 2007 9:30:50 GMT -4
I am very shocked that Miceli was cut. I'd take him over Tolles and Goyens simply because Miceli is 18 and brings as much if not more to the team. Tough break for the kid but maybe he'll think twice before wearing Montreal pants to a training camp
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 20, 2007 9:33:10 GMT -4
Nice to see the Wildcats are able to buy another player. This season could have been a whole lot different if you were on an even playing field with everyone else. Marquardt - Mangan - Bezak Cameron - Labelle - Eagles Lessard - Sill (was he bought?) - Brannon MacAusland - Brown - WatsonPianosi - Baca Barberio - DemitrukGoyens - Tolles Without those guys this team is battling to stay ahead of Cape Breton and looks to have a tough few years of development. Instead I agree with Steve it looks like this team could be battling for home ice advantage. Marquardt was not bought ... he came to Moncton ahead of other teams because he could play in the Mem Cup ... he isn't exactly academic material. Watson was just a FA addition ... not bought at all ... same as Tolles ... and neither of them has had any impact yet on the team playing something like a combined 26 games. I think Watson had played a few games in the WHL in pre-season or regular season ... not sure ... so his NCAA eligibility was no longer an issue. Sill was drafted ... went NCAA ... got into trouble down there and lost his scholarship ... so he cost us nothing. He had already burned his NCAA dream so it wasn't like he was holding out for something. We are on an even footing with all other Q teams. Moncton just chooses to treat its players better by contributing to their education in a bigger way than other teams do. All other teams have the option to get off their wallets to convince kids that have an NCAA option that the Q is a good route for them. Its called "making an investment in your team" ... it pays off down the road when these elite players blossom into superstars and the team can market around them ... or it pays off in wins which creates better attendance. Teams that are not investing in their players are not investing in their team. SS Jr might actually build an exciting team in PEI if he opened his wallet a little and targetted some higher end picks.
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Post by sec21critic on Aug 20, 2007 9:33:39 GMT -4
Here's how I look at it...
I - as well as others - have sometimes lamented how the league can get watered down with expansion and such. It gets to the point when the edge in competition and quality of play dwindles and fans - even the most passionate among us - begin to lose interest in watching certain teams (sometimes their own team).
By bringing in players such as MacAusland, Dimitruk, Anthony, etc, we give the league a better product. I'm not saying it's right or wrong... what I am saying is that everytime a player like this enters the Q, that makes the Q a more enjoyable product and encourages a higher level of competition.
From a fiscal standpoint, you can look at it anyway you like... but from a competitive standpoint, deals like this improve the bottom line of the quaily of play in the league... qhich is somethign the Q needs now more than ever.
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Post by IslandersHKY on Aug 20, 2007 9:55:58 GMT -4
We are on an even footing with all other Q teams. Moncton just chooses to treat its players better by contributing to their education in a bigger way than other teams do. All other teams have the option to get off their wallets to convince kids that have an NCAA option that the Q is a good route for them. You certainly have an interesting perspective Steve although clearly not in touch with the realities of the rest of the league. And I do find it funny how you paint Irving and Moncton's Management as simply caring more about their players and other owners simply being greedy and wanting to keep their money. The truth is if Irving really did care about his players that much then he would offer the same education package to all his players and not a huge amount for Brown and MacAusland, a big amount Piaonsi, some incentives for others and the basic for the rest. And the reality is that as was discussed at great length on Moosetalk a while ago there are significant financial disparities between teams like Quebec, Halifax, Moncton and other teams like PEI. And most teams simply can't afford those kind of additional incentives to attract the top players which creates an inbalance which has been growing and will continue to grow. And so while I agree with Sec 21 that on one hand at least attracting the top players to the Q is good for the league. I also think it is a bad thing that more and more then are always ending up with the same teams and IMO it is more important to maintain for the league to maintain a competitive balance. What worries me is that more and more the Q seems to be heading closer to the baseball model where the same 5 or 6 teams are in contention every season with a few middle teams and the rest are your perennial basement teams. And is what is going to happen if this trend continues. Anyway I am not trying to turn this into a Moncton is bad because they are using their money to create the best product possible because that is what they should be doing and if PEI had Moncton's financial resources I would expect our GM to do the same. Having said that as I was reading the quote which stated that Dimitruk left awaiting an agreement on his "educational package" (wink, wink) it had me thinking about all of the players on Moncton's current and past roster who basically weren't available to most of the league. As I said, the Wildcats would be a much much different team if they really were on an even footing with the other teams.
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