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Post by SteveUL on Aug 21, 2007 15:08:56 GMT -4
see the way i did it was went with the skill level they got the age they got , and we have 17 and 16 year players that are better then are 19 year old so why would we keep 19 year old . and there is heart i know some time you dont have all the skills in the world but if you have the heart and the desire it works in you avantage , but if you are 19 and just average player in my opinion i would preffer a 18 or 17 year old that is avarage then a 19 at leas you can work with the 16 17 or 18 year old for a few years . Which 16 and 17 yr olds are currently better than which 19 yr olds ? |
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Post by CatsFan on Aug 21, 2007 15:17:08 GMT -4
see the way i did it was went with the skill level they got the age they got , and we have 17 and 16 year players that are better then are 19 year old so why would we keep 19 year old . and there is heart i know some time you dont have all the skills in the world but if you have the heart and the desire it works in you avantage , but if you are 19 and just average player in my opinion i would preffer a 18 or 17 year old that is avarage then a 19 at leas you can work with the 16 17 or 18 year old for a few years . Which 16 and 17 yr olds are currently better than which 19 yr olds ? I would say Dimitruk has been more impressive then say .. Goyens maybe ? |
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 21, 2007 16:01:54 GMT -4
Which 16 and 17 yr olds are currently better than which 19 yr olds ? I would say Dimitruk has been more impressive then say .. Goyens maybe ? Goyens maybe ? ... are you sure of that or are you just guessing ? Don't confuse potential with what he brings right now. We need to be strong on D this year as well in the future ... deleting veterans in favour of promising rookies will not help us much this year. |
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Post by bikerboy on Aug 21, 2007 16:21:12 GMT -4
i agree with you steve on that point because a good look at a team that looks that way is rimouski in the years they sold there team just for draft picks , i am not saying it was not a good idea they got some very good talent there just on a fans side it is not fun to go seed a team that you know are going to loose not because of lack of talent ecause a lack of veterans
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Post by CatsFan on Aug 21, 2007 16:33:40 GMT -4
I would say Dimitruk has been more impressive then say .. Goyens maybe ? Goyens maybe ? ... are you sure of that or are you just guessing ? Don't confuse potential with what he brings right now. We need to be strong on D this year as well in the future ... deleting veterans in favour of promising rookies will not help us much this year. You asked .. what 16 or 17 year olds are currently better then which 19 year olds .. & IMO, Dimitruk is currently better then Goyens, who is 19. It's just my opinion. I didn't mean we need to get rid of him. |
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Post by jimmy on Aug 21, 2007 17:42:37 GMT -4
see the way i did it was went with the skill level they got the age they got , and we have 17 and 16 year players that are better then are 19 year old so why would we keep 19 year old . and there is heart i know some time you dont have all the skills in the world but if you have the heart and the desire it works in you avantage , but if you are 19 and just average player in my opinion i would preffer a 18 or 17 year old that is avarage then a 19 at leas you can work with the 16 17 or 18 year old for a few years . Which 16 and 17 yr olds are currently better than which 19 yr olds ? Since you asked, Barberio is probably our #1 defenseman ... which makes him better right now than any of Tolles, Goyens, Gomes, all of whom are 19 ... I also wouldn't be surprised if MacAusland makes much more of an impact on the scoresheet this year than some older guys, though he may not necessarily be a better overall player ... my first impression is that when he gets time and space to operate (2nd PP unit perhaps) the kid has sick moves, vision, and hands, and is good enough to put up some numbers right away ... however he needs to improve at winning one on one battles and defensive awareness. |
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Post by digitalman on Aug 21, 2007 18:54:01 GMT -4
Stephens earning a roster spot doesn't mean he'll be here all year. Greenside last year and Ouskun two years ago made the team but then got sent home after a few months. I don't really mind the signing. There's an excess of forwards with or without Stephens so maybe they'll just carry the extra forward and it won't actually make an additional returning forward lose his job. Also, I'm thinking Hodge's article on Bolduc was probably prepard a while back because he's clearly been outplayed by Dupuis.
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Post by thedoubled on Aug 21, 2007 19:37:00 GMT -4
I think that Goyen's and Tolles are good as good, Wilson has been a pleasant surprise. The overagers in my opinion will be Marquart, Magnon and Moorehouse.
D - Barbiaro and Baca
Eastman, Pionasi
Wilson, Dimitryk
Boyle and Gomes
Herr
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Post by hockey1981 on Aug 21, 2007 22:26:11 GMT -4
i think top 6 will be
Barberio
Pianosi
Dimitruk
Baca
Eastman if healthy
Tolles
7th-8th Among Boyle, Goyens, Gomes, Wilson
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 22, 2007 6:46:02 GMT -4
From what I read in the paper, the defense will be something like this, top 5, Baca Barberio Pianosi Gomes Eastman, then Wilson Dimitruk and possibly Tolles
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Post by jimmy on Aug 22, 2007 7:33:10 GMT -4
This morning's T & T indicates they are going to carry 8 d-men ... 11 are left, 5 are locks - Barberio, Pianosi, Baca, Gomes, Eastman. Dimitruk is a lock if he comes to terms ... there are 2 (or 3 if Demitruk doesn't sign) jobs to be had between Goyens, Tolles, Boyle, Little, and Herr.
Also in the T & T, appears they are going to carry 15 forwards - we have 20 left in camp, so five cuts still to come. One will be a 20 year old, one should be Brad Smith, and after that it gets tough ... three more cuts to make ...
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Post by bikerboy on Aug 22, 2007 7:53:40 GMT -4
so you have 5 F to cut one 20 Lincourt , then Brad Smith , then Jason Lepage , Murdock MacLellan , then either Brenton or eagles
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Post by catnut on Aug 22, 2007 7:55:00 GMT -4
Eagles will not be cut, get that idea out of your head.
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 22, 2007 8:12:36 GMT -4
so you have 5 F to cut one 20 Lincourt , then Brad Smith , then Jason Lepage , Murdock MacLellan , then either Brenton or eagles Brenton and Eagles have been two of probably the 5 best forwards in camp. Lepage and Smith are easy cuts ... Murdoch not so easy but a guy like Brannon will replace what he brings with a bit of an upgrade and a year younger (may not replace the character though) ... Lincourt has to be cut/traded as he does not work well within the system even though he probably is the most skilled 20 YO we have. That leaves one tough one ... I think you have to throw Watson into the mix too as an "on the bubble" guy. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 22, 2007 8:18:54 GMT -4
I would say Dimitruk has been more impressive then say .. Goyens maybe ? Goyens maybe ? ... are you sure of that or are you just guessing ? Don't confuse potential with what he brings right now. We need to be strong on D this year as well in the future ... deleting veterans in favour of promising rookies will not help us much this year. Once Dimitruk has his feet wet, I think he can contribute more than a guy like Goyens. Guys like Gomes and Eastman make Goyens obsolete, they do the same job better because of better mobility. |
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