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Post by buckybuckbuck on Sept 19, 2007 21:01:21 GMT -4
Lessard-Mangan-Bezak Eagles-Cameron-Labelle Morehouse-Sill-Brannon Brown or Macausland-Stephens-Maclellan Sit Lincourt, Brenton, I wouldn't sit Lincourt based on his performance against Halifax last year in the playoffs. He may be the type of player that rises to play against better competition. Lots can look good against poor competition. Here's my Lines Eagles-Cameron-Bezak (Playmakers) Lessard-Mangan-Labelle (Workhorses) Marquardt-Sill-Brannon (Power Forwards) Brenton-Macausland-Lincourt (Bite you on the ass line) PK Maclellan-Sill-Brannon Sit Stephens, Morehouse, Brown
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Post by digitalman on Sept 19, 2007 21:05:38 GMT -4
Lessard-Mangan-Bezak Eagles-Cameron-Labelle Morehouse-Sill-Brannon Brown or Macausland-Stephens-Maclellan Sit Lincourt, Brenton, I wouldn't sit Lincourt based on his performance against Halifax last year in the playoffs. He may be the type of player that rises to play against better competition. Lots can look good against poor competition. Here's my Lines Eagles-Cameron-Bezak (Playmakers) Lessard-Mangan-Labelle (Workhorses) Marquardt-Sill-Brannon (Power Forwards) Morehouse-Macausland-Lincourt (Bite you on the ass line) PK Maclellan-Sill-Brannon Sit Stephens, Brenton, Brown How does playing three playmakers together constitute a good line? Labelle is anything but a workhorse, he's a playmaker. And Marquardt is the closest thing the cats have to a star. He will not play on the third line.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Sept 19, 2007 21:14:33 GMT -4
I wouldn't sit Lincourt based on his performance against Halifax last year in the playoffs. He may be the type of player that rises to play against better competition. Lots can look good against poor competition. Here's my Lines Eagles-Cameron-Bezak (Playmakers) Lessard-Mangan-Labelle (Workhorses) Marquardt-Sill-Brannon (Power Forwards) Morehouse-Macausland-Lincourt (Bite you on the ass line) PK Maclellan-Sill-Brannon Sit Stephens, Brenton, Brown How does playing three playmakers together constitute a good line? Labelle is anything but a workhorse, he's a playmaker. And Marquardt is the closest thing the cats have to a star. He will not play on the third line. There's not a first, second or third.... They are all just balanced lines. I disagree that Labelle isn't a workhouse. He is both a workhorse and playmaker, as is Mangan, and Lessard is a power forward that is playing like a playmaker. I like my lines at least for one game. I like the balance. I really would like to see the damage that Marquart-Sill-and Brannon could do. I think they would all put up better numbers in the end. Not many defensemen could stop any of them. If anyone of them wants the front of the net, they get it and that going to score goals.
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Post by curtis on Sept 19, 2007 22:16:23 GMT -4
I highly doubt Morehouse will be sitting out any games as a healthy scratch. They didn't keep around for him to sit in the stands. He is a leader and alternate captain.
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Post by MikeC on Sept 19, 2007 22:23:33 GMT -4
Seriously, I figure Stephens, Brown and Brenton (didn't do much Sunday, IMO) if Macausland is ready. On D, Baca and will replace Boyle for the first game. Gomes will be there for the 2nd one and will replace Herr. I think you sit Herr the first game moreso than the second - the back half of a home and home is when tempers historically flare. You can also control the line match ups at home, which is beneficial when Herr is in the line up.
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Post by Porkchop on Sept 19, 2007 23:28:00 GMT -4
Don't sit Labelle......I have him in my hockey pool........
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Post by forrest on Sept 20, 2007 7:35:16 GMT -4
Yeah sitting Lincourt a game or two would be a great idea... especially if Marquardt ever comes back, that will boosts Lincourt's trade value so much, no one will even be able to afford to make an offer.
I say play Lincourt on the 1st line with your 2 bests players and on the 1st powerplay for the first 2-3 weeks. That will a) give him an opportunity and b) give him good trade value if we need to trade him.
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 20, 2007 7:54:23 GMT -4
Yeah sitting Lincourt a game or two would be a great idea... especially if Marquardt ever comes back, that will boosts Lincourt's trade value so much, no one will even be able to afford to make an offer. I say play Lincourt on the 1st line with your 2 bests players and on the 1st powerplay for the first 2-3 weeks. That will a) give him an opportunity and b) give him good trade value if we need to trade him. Lincourt has been traded enough around the league that he is not a mystery to anybody ... sitting him or playing him isn't going to alter his trade value.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Sept 20, 2007 8:36:18 GMT -4
Yeah sitting Lincourt a game or two would be a great idea... especially if Marquardt ever comes back, that will boosts Lincourt's trade value so much, no one will even be able to afford to make an offer. I say play Lincourt on the 1st line with your 2 bests players and on the 1st powerplay for the first 2-3 weeks. That will a) give him an opportunity and b) give him good trade value if we need to trade him. Lincourt has been traded enough around the league that he is not a mystery to anybody ... sitting him or playing him isn't going to alter his trade value. That's true but playing him will allow him to showcase himself as the guy who was invited to a tryout. If he doesn't work hard during the Halifax game where lots are watching him, then you sit him. Give him the chance to raise his own value. Sitting Morehouse for one game isn't going to kill him and all his many many fans. Flynn brought Morehouse to the Wildcats so Flynn is the guy who can sit him for one game. It might be nice to see how the rest of the guys play without the Morehouse distractions. I like Morehouse too but I don't mind sitting anyone for one game while I test various scenarios.
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Post by 1fan on Sept 20, 2007 9:04:45 GMT -4
Lessard-Mangan-Bezak Eagles-Cameron-Labelle Morehouse-Sill-Brannon Brown or Macausland-Stephens-Maclellan Sit Lincourt, Brenton, I wouldn't sit Lincourt based on his performance against Halifax last year in the playoffs. He may be the type of player that rises to play against better competition. Lots can look good against poor competition. Here's my Lines Eagles-Cameron-Bezak (Playmakers) Lessard-Mangan-Labelle (Workhorses) Marquardt-Sill-Brannon (Power Forwards) Brenton-Macausland-Lincourt (Bite you on the ass line) PK Maclellan-Sill-Brannon Sit Stephens, Morehouse, Brown Can't see Marquardt on a defensive, shut down line. He's not really that type of player. That's why you have seen Maclellan, Moorehouse or Brannon play with Sill as the center. It's not always about balance. You have different lines for different roles different times in the game. Also noticed that Flynn matched lines a few times with the last change at home, especially with his "third" line. Maybe we see Brannon on another line other than Sill's line as Flynn made comments about his offensive abilities. Then again, Flynn did say time will tell which combinations work best.
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Post by CatsFan on Sept 20, 2007 9:31:02 GMT -4
In the T&T this morning, Neil Hodge asks to Flynn, quote : " Let's say the Wildcats have a 20 year old who has no impact for an extended period of time. Would they consider sitting him and going with two overagers in order to make room in the lineup for a rookie? " .. Flynn goes on to respond : " Well that's not going to happen here because we like our 20 year olds " .. Neil asks what if it does happen .. Flynn : " I have enough confidence in our 20 year olds that I don't think it would ever come to a situation where one of them got bumped from the lineup " ..
I totally disagree. I think if a 20 year old player, who is supposed to be a leader, is just floating around and contributing nothing.. I say if there's a younger guy who shows that he can contribute and that he wants to be in the lineup and he deserves to be in the lineup.. sit Lincourt. But for that matter if it was any 20 year old .. but Lincourt is the only one who I see doing this. Yea, I know, we're only a few games in .. but he did this a LOT last year when he was year .. this is his time where he should be showing why he should be here. If and when Marquardt comes back, Flynn is going to have to make a choice. Lincourt could just make it a lot easier job for Flynn.
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 20, 2007 12:20:14 GMT -4
In the T&T this morning, Neil Hodge asks to Flynn, quote : " Let's say the Wildcats have a 20 year old who has no impact for an extended period of time. Would they consider sitting him and going with two overagers in order to make room in the lineup for a rookie? " .. Flynn goes on to respond : " Well that's not going to happen here because we like our 20 year olds " .. Neil asks what if it does happen .. Flynn : " I have enough confidence in our 20 year olds that I don't think it would ever come to a situation where one of them got bumped from the lineup " .. I totally disagree. I think if a 20 year old player, who is supposed to be a leader, is just floating around and contributing nothing.. I say if there's a younger guy who shows that he can contribute and that he wants to be in the lineup and he deserves to be in the lineup.. sit Lincourt. But for that matter if it was any 20 year old .. but Lincourt is the only one who I see doing this. Yea, I know, we're only a few games in .. but he did this a LOT last year when he was year .. this is his time where he should be showing why he should be here. If and when Marquardt comes back, Flynn is going to have to make a choice. Lincourt could just make it a lot easier job for Flynn. I haven't read the article yet ... but reading those words it would seem that Flynn is just avoiding getting into a "20 YO controversy" and doesn't want to start badmouthing one of his players until he knows he has no other options ... ie Marquardt does not return. Once he knows he is stuck with Lincourt (or Morehouse or Mangan ... just being politically correct) ... then he'll start hounding a player that is not performing ... not leading ... not pulling his share of the load. We can't really afford to sit out a skill player as we have so few ... and if Lincourt wanted to he could be a dominating player ... so all you can do right now is encourage him to be dominant ... and hope. When and if Marquardt returns the options change and the gloves will come off. Lincourt has to get it through his head that him playing a strong role on this team will make Flynn's decision tougher ... right now its an easy decision if Marquardt returns.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Sept 20, 2007 12:41:13 GMT -4
Lincourt is a frequent recipient of bashing on these boards and like Bartulis, Welton and others is he deserving? Here are the playoff numbers last year
Moncton, Wildcats POS NUM RKI Player GP G A Pts PiM +/- PPG SHG WG TG RW 8 Lincourt, Maxime 6 3 3 6 5 2 1 0 2 0 RW 22 * MacLellan, Murdock 7 3 3 6 6 4 0 0 0 0 C 36 Eagles, Matt 7 2 4 6 0 -3 1 0 0 0 D 4 MacDonald, Andrew 7 1 5 6 4 4 1 0 0 0 LW 28 Morehouse, Chris 7 4 1 5 23 -3 1 0 1 0 D 2 Emmanuele, Nick 7 3 2 5 7 3 0 1 0 0 C 12 Gaudet, Christian 7 2 3 5 9 2 1 0 0 0 C 77 Mangan, Phil 7 1 3 4 10 -1 0 0 0 0 LW 61 Marquardt, Matt 7 1 3 4 14 -3 0 0 0 0 D 44 * Pianosi, Alexi 7 1 3 4 10 -4 0 0 0 0 RW 20 * Labelle, Marc-André 7 2 0 2 6 -4 0 0 0 0 RW 17 * Cameron, Randy 7 1 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 D 24 * Barberio, Mark 7 0 2 2 8 -4 0 0 0 0 D 27 Welton, Nathan 7 0 2 2 10 3 0 0 0 0 LW 26 * Brenton, Matthew 7 0 1 1 2 -2 0 0 0 0 C 15 * Lepage, Jason 7 0 1 1 10 0 0 0 0 0 D 16 * Tolles, Joseph 1 0 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 D 19 Goyens, Nicholas 7 0 0 0 6 -7 0 0 0 0 LW 10 * Lessard, Pierre-Marc 7 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 G 29 * Riopel, Nicola 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 G 35 Sniderman, Jhase 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - - - Bench (Team) - - - - 2 - - - - - TOTAL 7 24 37 61 139 -14 6 1 3 0
Doesn't look too bad to me. Also in 26 games of regular season he had 20 points and -5 which was right there with anyone last year. Put on top of that he was new to the team and needed to pickup the new systems..etc. Now two games into this year everyone has labeled him as lazy. Flynn is an excellent coach and can bring the best out of anyone, I say give him a chance and we will see what happens. Morehouses numbers are not anywhere near as good, but I wouldn't trade Morehouse and we may not even have a extra 20 if Marquardt stays in AHL or ECHL.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 20, 2007 13:26:52 GMT -4
In the T&T this morning, Neil Hodge asks to Flynn, quote : " Let's say the Wildcats have a 20 year old who has no impact for an extended period of time. Would they consider sitting him and going with two overagers in order to make room in the lineup for a rookie? " .. Flynn goes on to respond : " Well that's not going to happen here because we like our 20 year olds " .. Neil asks what if it does happen .. Flynn : " I have enough confidence in our 20 year olds that I don't think it would ever come to a situation where one of them got bumped from the lineup " .. I totally disagree. I think if a 20 year old player, who is supposed to be a leader, is just floating around and contributing nothing.. I say if there's a younger guy who shows that he can contribute and that he wants to be in the lineup and he deserves to be in the lineup.. sit Lincourt. But for that matter if it was any 20 year old .. but Lincourt is the only one who I see doing this. Yea, I know, we're only a few games in .. but he did this a LOT last year when he was year .. this is his time where he should be showing why he should be here. If and when Marquardt comes back, Flynn is going to have to make a choice. Lincourt could just make it a lot easier job for Flynn. I haven't read the article yet ... but reading those words it would seem that Flynn is just avoiding getting into a "20 YO controversy" and doesn't want to start badmouthing one of his players until he knows he has no other options ... ie Marquardt does not return. Once he knows he is stuck with Lincourt (or Morehouse or Mangan ... just being politically correct) ... then he'll start hounding a player that is not performing ... not leading ... not pulling his share of the load. We can't really afford to sit out a skill player as we have so few ... and if Lincourt wanted to he could be a dominating player ... so all you can do right now is encourage him to be dominant ... and hope. When and if Marquardt returns the options change and the gloves will come off. Lincourt has to get it through his head that him playing a strong role on this team will make Flynn's decision tougher ... right now its an easy decision if Marquardt returns. There are 3 lines of players as skilled as Lincourt. He is very replaceable. Marquardt is another story, because of his size and power, he is sort of unique.
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Post by CatsFan on Sept 20, 2007 13:49:02 GMT -4
Lincourt is a frequent recipient of bashing on these boards and like Bartulis, Welton and others is he deserving? Here are the playoff numbers last year Moncton, Wildcats POS NUM RKI Player GP G A Pts PiM +/- PPG SHG WG TG RW 8 Lincourt, Maxime 6 3 3 6 5 2 1 0 2 0 RW 22 * MacLellan, Murdock 7 3 3 6 6 4 0 0 0 0 C 36 Eagles, Matt 7 2 4 6 0 -3 1 0 0 0 D 4 MacDonald, Andrew 7 1 5 6 4 4 1 0 0 0 LW 28 Morehouse, Chris 7 4 1 5 23 -3 1 0 1 0 D 2 Emmanuele, Nick 7 3 2 5 7 3 0 1 0 0 C 12 Gaudet, Christian 7 2 3 5 9 2 1 0 0 0 C 77 Mangan, Phil 7 1 3 4 10 -1 0 0 0 0 LW 61 Marquardt, Matt 7 1 3 4 14 -3 0 0 0 0 D 44 * Pianosi, Alexi 7 1 3 4 10 -4 0 0 0 0 RW 20 * Labelle, Marc-André 7 2 0 2 6 -4 0 0 0 0 RW 17 * Cameron, Randy 7 1 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 D 24 * Barberio, Mark 7 0 2 2 8 -4 0 0 0 0 D 27 Welton, Nathan 7 0 2 2 10 3 0 0 0 0 LW 26 * Brenton, Matthew 7 0 1 1 2 -2 0 0 0 0 C 15 * Lepage, Jason 7 0 1 1 10 0 0 0 0 0 D 16 * Tolles, Joseph 1 0 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 D 19 Goyens, Nicholas 7 0 0 0 6 -7 0 0 0 0 LW 10 * Lessard, Pierre-Marc 7 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 G 29 * Riopel, Nicola 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 G 35 Sniderman, Jhase 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - - - Bench (Team) - - - - 2 - - - - - TOTAL 7 24 37 61 139 -14 6 1 3 0 Doesn't look too bad to me. Also in 26 games of regular season he had 20 points and -5 which was right there with anyone last year. Put on top of that he was new to the team and needed to pickup the new systems..etc. Now two games into this year everyone has labeled him as lazy. Flynn is an excellent coach and can bring the best out of anyone, I say give him a chance and we will see what happens. Morehouses numbers are not anywhere near as good, but I wouldn't trade Morehouse and we may not even have a extra 20 if Marquardt stays in AHL or ECHL. First off, I don't think you should be comparing Lincourt's numbers to Morehouse's. They both have totally different roles on the team. Morehouse is a grinder who is on the checking line.. he's obviously not going to have as many points as a guy playing on the first line. Second, I don't think Marquardt will play in the ECHL. I think if he doesn't play in the AHL, he'll be here.
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