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Post by thedoubled on Oct 20, 2007 3:46:23 GMT -4
it all comes back to the defence i talked about on another thread
not flynn's fault, his systems are good from what i see just not the players to exicute them. with the talent this team has we should be looking at pee wee systems dump and chase oh WAIT no grit and toughness, well lets do an umbrella power play OH WAIT no point shot ...
im big cats fan but face it gotta rebuild sometime
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Post by sharrow on Oct 20, 2007 7:49:02 GMT -4
Has Moncton won a game since they hired Joseph who had a great losing streak going for him at Dalhousie University I think he is up to o- 25 combining the two teams. And speaking of University Irving has not learned his lesson that University coaches make poor Major Juniors
coaches, think back to Coolen and then Darrell Young and now Flynn with Joseph expect the losing to continue.
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Post by wild2 on Oct 20, 2007 8:29:16 GMT -4
Psst!Flynn was Major Junior (Asst.with MC win)b4 University!
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Post by sec21critic on Oct 20, 2007 9:21:37 GMT -4
Has Moncton won a game since they hired Joseph who had a great losing streak going for him at Dalhousie University I think he is up to o- 25 combining the two teams. And speaking of University Irving has not learned his lesson that University coaches make poor Major Juniors coaches, think back to Coolen and then Darrell Young and now Flynn with Joseph expect the losing to continue. Darrel Young wasn't a coach... he was GM... and he was THE reason the Cats made it to the finals in '04 (with outside help from Pascal Vincent of course). Virtually every key player on that team was drafted or traded for under Young. ... and he's now a Stanley Cup champion scout in Tampa Bay... but other than these major flaws, perhaps your argument carries some weight. |
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Post by overtime on Oct 20, 2007 9:28:57 GMT -4
Its time to get real. Last year at this time we had Whelton, Bourdon,A MAc and Sampson.This year is price paid for going for it. Barberio and Brannon are not going to show up big time this year but I think they will in the future. The focus needs to be next year
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Post by CatsFan on Oct 20, 2007 10:06:27 GMT -4
Its time to get real. Last year at this time we had Whelton, Bourdon,A MAc and Sampson.This year is price paid for going for it. Barberio and Brannon are not going to show up big time this year but I think they will in the future. The focus needs to be next year Sampson.. wasn't he a bust Dman like 6 years ago.. ? |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 20, 2007 12:33:52 GMT -4
it all comes back to the defence i talked about on another thread not flynn's fault, his systems are good from what i see just not the players to exicute them. with the talent this team has we should be looking at pee wee systems dump and chase oh WAIT no grit and toughness, well lets do an umbrella power play OH WAIT no point shot ... im big cats fan but face it gotta rebuild sometime Defense is not the problem, they are scoring under 2.5 GF per game...I know that MacDonald and Welton contributed to the offense last year, but this year's forwards are older plus they added 3 pretty good players in Brannon Sill Bezak. |
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Post by Dugger on Oct 20, 2007 13:52:33 GMT -4
The size argument got old a long time ago. Games are won on skill, grit and smarts. Lately it seems that this team is not willing to put in the work needed to succeed unlike last year's team. To prove that the size arument is a joke, the biggest player on the team(and one of the biggest in the Q) in Marquardt has been playing half assed all year except a few good games early on. Not sure if it's system or what but they seem to spend a lot more time watching rather than the attacking, agressive skatining sttyle they played last year that was very successful. This year's team is older and overall more skilled but is playing much worse. Size does matter and it especially matters when there is not the skill set to go with it. You can hustle all you want and you can have all the grit you want but little players ranging in weight from 155 to 180 or so will wear down no matter how strong they are. There is nothing wrong with having small talented, gritty players but you cannot have a team that half of them are 5'10" and of that 9 of them are 5'9" or under. As for the argument that they attacked last year and were more aggressive, the lack of size slowly caught up to them and they fizzled in the second half and ran out of gas in the playoffs. They are better then they're showing right now but not that much better, they will get out of this slump but they can't escape the glaring deficiency they have in skill set and size. It's not a complaint it's a fact and it will take time to address. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 20, 2007 14:47:48 GMT -4
The size argument got old a long time ago. Games are won on skill, grit and smarts. Lately it seems that this team is not willing to put in the work needed to succeed unlike last year's team. To prove that the size arument is a joke, the biggest player on the team(and one of the biggest in the Q) in Marquardt has been playing half assed all year except a few good games early on. Not sure if it's system or what but they seem to spend a lot more time watching rather than the attacking, agressive skatining sttyle they played last year that was very successful. This year's team is older and overall more skilled but is playing much worse. Size does matter and it especially matters when there is not the skill set to go with it. You can hustle all you want and you can have all the grit you want but little players ranging in weight from 155 to 180 or so will wear down no matter how strong they are. There is nothing wrong with having small talented, gritty players but you cannot have a team that half of them are 5'10" and of that 9 of them are 5'9" or under. As for the argument that they attacked last year and were more aggressive, the lack of size slowly caught up to them and they fizzled in the second half and ran out of gas in the playoffs. They are better then they're showing right now but not that much better, they will get out of this slump but they can't escape the glaring deficiency they have in skill set and size. It's not a complaint it's a fact and it will take time to address. If it's all about size, why are they getting dominated the last few games by teams as small and younger? You can't tell me Cape Breton is a bigger older team? How big is Ouellet Culligan Laberge? They have 3 players above 6' and 200lbs and one(Lamontagne) was suspended the last 4 games. It's not like they have a team of mites... Marquardt is 6'3" 225 Barberio 6'1" 200 Brannon 6' 185 Sill 6' 190 Lessard 6'1" 185 Gomes 5'10" 210 Herr 6'2" 185 Baca 6'3" 200 |
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Post by Dugger on Oct 20, 2007 16:43:59 GMT -4
Size does matter and it especially matters when there is not the skill set to go with it. You can hustle all you want and you can have all the grit you want but little players ranging in weight from 155 to 180 or so will wear down no matter how strong they are. There is nothing wrong with having small talented, gritty players but you cannot have a team that half of them are 5'10" and of that 9 of them are 5'9" or under. As for the argument that they attacked last year and were more aggressive, the lack of size slowly caught up to them and they fizzled in the second half and ran out of gas in the playoffs. They are better then they're showing right now but not that much better, they will get out of this slump but they can't escape the glaring deficiency they have in skill set and size. It's not a complaint it's a fact and it will take time to address. If it's all about size, why are they getting dominated the last few games by teams as small and younger? You can't tell me Cape Breton is a bigger older team? How big is Ouellet Culligan Laberge? They have 3 players above 6' and 200lbs and one(Lamontagne) was suspended the last 4 games. It's not like they have a team of mites... Marquardt is 6'3" 225 Barberio 6'1" 200 Brannon 6' 185 Sill 6' 190 Lessard 6'1" 185 Gomes 5'10" 210 Herr 6'2" 185 Baca 6'3" 200 No it's not all about size but you have 9 guys who are 5' 9" with 3rd and 4th line skill sets for the most part, your expectations cannot be high that they are going to win consistently. Small 3rd and 4th line players cannot hope to compete when they are thrust into 1st and 2nd line positions which is what's happening now, not because of bad coaching but because that's all we have to fill those positions. We have a weak team that is compounded by our lack of size (9 players 5' 9" or under) and lack of skill sets. They can play better then they are but anyone who believes we can salvage this or next year with the players we have right now with the exception of a few are wrong. Size is not the only reason we are losing but it is a major contributing factor. |
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Post by sharrow on Oct 22, 2007 11:42:26 GMT -4
Flynn never won a M/C as a head coach his heading coaching experience was with Bellville where he was fired, all his success in Major Junior was on the coat tails of Ted Nolan. Usually unsuccessful Major Junior Coaches go for the cushy jobs at University where 5 year contracts are the norm and underacheiving results go unoticed. (ie) Bob Mongrain etc etc
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Post by wildcats on Oct 22, 2007 13:26:50 GMT -4
jai entendu des good source about flynn lessard eagle barberio labelle laime pas pour jouer pour lui hier jau ete a la partie notre deffence font picher et lavant on est trop petit jaime zill mascauland brown but brento go bacl au junior a flynn va ler chercher des size a noel i heard marquart will be trade for sure my uncle talk to flynn all the time my oncle enseigne son enfants et ils on racronter a lecole il faut etre patient avec la team but hope flynn going to get soem size anyways who was the reffree last night he suck big time
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Post by hockey1981 on Oct 22, 2007 13:33:57 GMT -4
jai entendu des good source about flynn lessard eagle barberio labelle laime pas pour jouer pour lui hier jau ete a la partie notre deffence font picher et lavant on est trop petit jaime zill mascauland brown but brento go bacl au junior a flynn va ler chercher des size a noel i heard marquart will be trade for sure my uncle talk to flynn all the time my oncle enseigne son enfants et ils on racronter a lecole il faut etre patient avec la team but hope flynn going to get soem size anyways who was the reffree last night he suck big time I heard from a good source that Lessard, Eagles, Barberio, Labelle don't like playing for Flynn. I was at the game yesterday and our D sucks and forwards are too small. I like Sill, Macausland & Brown but Brenton should go back to Jr A. Flynn should get size at Xmas, My uncle is a teacher & teaches Flynn's kids and he came to school to talk to the kids and to be patient with the team from $%^%#$ to english |
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Post by catnut on Oct 22, 2007 13:39:55 GMT -4
jai entendu des good source about flynn lessard eagle barberio labelle laime pas pour jouer pour lui hier jau ete a la partie notre deffence font picher et lavant on est trop petit jaime zill mascauland brown but brento go bacl au junior a flynn va ler chercher des size a noel i heard marquart will be trade for sure my uncle talk to flynn all the time my oncle enseigne son enfants et ils on racronter a lecole il faut etre patient avec la team but hope flynn going to get soem size anyways who was the reffree last night he suck big time For those who were wondering, his posts are as hard to read in French as in English. Periods are a useful thing buddy. |
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Post by wild2 on Oct 22, 2007 13:43:07 GMT -4
jai entendu des good source about flynn lessard eagle barberio labelle laime pas pour jouer pour lui hier jau ete a la partie notre deffence font picher et lavant on est trop petit jaime zill mascauland brown but brento go bacl au junior a flynn va ler chercher des size a noel i heard marquart will be trade for sure my uncle talk to flynn all the time my oncle enseigne son enfants et ils on racronter a lecole il faut etre patient avec la team but hope flynn going to get soem size anyways who was the reffree last night he suck big time For those who were wondering, his posts are as hard to read in French as in English. Periods are a useful thing buddy. Call that french? Even I can t make out what he says in french mixed with anglais! |
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