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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 13, 2007 23:53:30 GMT -4
Rio played ok, but not his usual self, I'm sure the 2 week layoff didn't help.
One thing that baffled me was having Sill take the last 2 faceoffs with 1 minute and under left. Sill is under 50% on faceffs(46%) and Mangan is 57%.
I liked playing Labelle on the PP, he made things happen and got an assist on one of the Mangan goals.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Nov 14, 2007 0:17:58 GMT -4
He was also 100% on Faceoffs in the game.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 14, 2007 0:33:53 GMT -4
He was also 100% on Faceoffs in the game. Sill was 10/24, about 42% Mangan was 6/11 about 55% Labelle was 5/8 about 62% |
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Nov 14, 2007 0:36:26 GMT -4
He was also 100% on Faceoffs in the game. Sill was 10/24, about 42% Mangan was 6/11 about 55% Labelle was 5/8 about 62% My mistake I looked at it earlier in the game when he was 2 for 2. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2007 8:15:34 GMT -4
Sill was 10/24, about 42% Mangan was 6/11 about 55% Labelle was 5/8 about 62% My mistake I looked at it earlier in the game when he was 2 for 2. Cats lost...does this mean Lavigne will be starting next game? |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 14, 2007 8:30:52 GMT -4
I like Baca as well but he may not have helped his cause with the last game against Chicoutimi. I thought it was his worst game as a cat. Just a thought. I agree, but if you look at it that way, Pianosi and Gomes should both have been sitting their good share of games because of very mediocre performance. But they're always in the lineup, and always get a lot of icetime. So what if a player has a bad game? Everyone does. Remember that Baca is the leader on the defense squad with a +/- of +5 I think. Baca's +/- is good because he doesn't play against the other teams top line. I'm getting tired of hearing all the crap on Flynn for not playing Baca. Baca's skating is weak and thats why he isn't in the lineup regularly ... he lacks mobility ... a very stiff legged skater. Pianosi and Gomes are both much more mobile and thats why they are in the lineup. I was impressed with Baca in pre-season but he hasn't impressed me much in the regular season. The rumour I'm hearing is that he won't be invited back next year. |
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Post by photoguy on Nov 14, 2007 9:16:09 GMT -4
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Post by Sébastien on Nov 14, 2007 12:56:51 GMT -4
Baca's +/- is good because he doesn't play against the other teams top line. I'm getting tired of hearing all the crap on Flynn for not playing Baca. Baca's skating is weak and thats why he isn't in the lineup regularly ... he lacks mobility ... a very stiff legged skater. Pianosi and Gomes are both much more mobile and thats why they are in the lineup. I was impressed with Baca in pre-season but he hasn't impressed me much in the regular season. The rumour I'm hearing is that he won't be invited back next year. I must say I haven't heard the rumour that he wouldn't be invited back next year. I agree that compared to what we saw in training camp, he has disapointed somewhat, pretty much as the whole defence corps. I also agree that he isn't the most mobile defenseman out there and has the occasional brain cramp. But I find he uses his body effectively (not a big hitter, but gets his body in the way of his opponents) and after his disapointing start to the season, has shown improvement almost every game. I find if he continues his progression, he could become a very solid defenseman. Probably not a 1st pairing guy, but 2nd pairing for sure. The only question is next year, could we get a better european player then him? Probably, but Flynn's first shot at drafting euros wasn't great (Voroshilov and Martikainen) and since Bartulis and Karsums left, we have not had impact euros. |
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Post by gongshow on Nov 14, 2007 13:45:27 GMT -4
Does anybody know if it was the same scout that recommended Voroshilov,Martikainen,Bezak and Baca?
If so I think it's safe to say he should get canned asap as all 4 have been flops.I don't think there any way in hell that these Bezak and Baca are good enough to be brought over here all the way in from Europe.
Like Steve said I don't really think that Baca deserves to be in the lineup any more than Gomes does....his skating is below average and he's always fighting the puck and although he is improving a little bit I wouldn't hesitate one bit of not inviting him back next year....if we can upgrade in the next euro draft go for it,but if not no big deal....the team can do without them.
I don't think euro's should be brought over just for the sake of having 2 euros.....and that seems to be what Mctn is doing....the only way they're worth the time is if they're impact players if not find a FA or something that will do the same job.
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Post by catnut on Nov 14, 2007 13:50:33 GMT -4
The hiring of the guy from the Red Line Report as scout for Europe and the US should help for next year and afterward. They said he travels to Europe 5 times per year to watch prospects.
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Post by jimmy on Nov 14, 2007 14:56:29 GMT -4
The hiring of the guy from the Red Line Report as scout for Europe and the US should help for next year and afterward. They said he travels to Europe 5 times per year to watch prospects. Yes, with Woodlief joining the fold I could see both Baca and Bezak being dealt at the draft for a pick to a team that struggles in the euro department ... both are decent Q league players, and will be even moreso next year at 19, but it doesn't appear either will be stars. |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 14, 2007 16:38:03 GMT -4
The hiring of the guy from the Red Line Report as scout for Europe and the US should help for next year and afterward. They said he travels to Europe 5 times per year to watch prospects. Yes, with Woodlief joining the fold I could see both Baca and Bezak being dealt at the draft for a pick to a team that struggles in the euro department ... both are decent Q league players, and will be even moreso next year at 19, but it doesn't appear either will be stars. I don't think its that hard to identify the high end Euro players. The difficulty is getting them over here. I would think that a team that has the financial resources that we have should be able to get high end Euros every year. We seem to be looking for a gem in a second teir group of players ... when we should be targetting the elite players and convincing them to report like we are trying to do with Americans. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 14, 2007 18:18:04 GMT -4
The hiring of the guy from the Red Line Report as scout for Europe and the US should help for next year and afterward. They said he travels to Europe 5 times per year to watch prospects. Yes, with Woodlief joining the fold I could see both Baca and Bezak being dealt at the draft for a pick to a team that struggles in the euro department ... both are decent Q league players, and will be even moreso next year at 19, but it doesn't appear either will be stars. I can see Baca being moved, but not both. It's tough to get 2 good Euros. |
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Post by Penguins23® on Nov 14, 2007 18:57:55 GMT -4
I'd be disappointed if we traded Bezak. I'm not sure if I'm the only one on here who sees something in him but for some reason I do. I think next year, if given the right opportunity he could be a 0.9 PPG player. He's no Voracek or Radulov but better then Roopi and Vorasholov.
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Post by CatsFan on Nov 14, 2007 19:11:04 GMT -4
I'd be disappointed if we traded Bezak. I'm not sure if I'm the only one on here who sees something in him but for some reason I do. I think next year, if given the right opportunity he could be a 0.9 PPG player. He's no Voracek or Radulov but better then Roopi and Vorasholov. I agree with you Pens. I don't know why some of you are being hard on him. We're only 2 and some odd months into the season.. did you think he was going to put up numbers every night and take the league by storm? I'll admit, I was hoping he would bring more offense.. but I'm not giving up on him just yet. I mean c'mon.. he isn't half as bad as Martikainen. I'll give him some more time before I make a decision on if he should stay or go. |
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