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Post by habh8er on Feb 21, 2008 14:24:48 GMT -4
I agree that Gallant and his knuckles are an important part of the Sea Dogs team if they don't want to have to deal with some of the B.S. that happens behind the play and in the "scrums".
I also think that we are a tough enough team to have him sit in the "pressbox" on some nights and have the others control the other teams agression. Guys like Grant, Sauve, Sparling, Howes, Leduc and Thomas are all able to handle themselves in the corners and can drop 'em if need be. It's not like we are being bullied into submission on a regular basis....there is a place for Brett in the lineup, but IMO we would be better served as a team if he was a healthy scratch on some nights and dressed when he is needed, the refs and the league have a job to do in making sure the skilled guys are able to play their game, but on some nights as a coach you know that things will be a little rougher than usual...even us spectators usually know when and who these situations will involve.
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Post by joey on Feb 21, 2008 14:29:29 GMT -4
The article is staying up. I don't think the article was actually meant to be a hit against Brett...I think it was meant to be an article about fighting in general. You'll notice in the last line that the writer complains about Halifax getting David Bouchard. He singled out his skating and how much better the team was without him in the lineup. You read into it what you like and like you said you think it was written about fighting . What does his skating have to do about fighting. YOUR THE BOSS , and with no disrespect but it looks like your talking out of both sides of your mouth. Read the bashing article in which you wrote and come back and read the article in which you posted and them tell us u really dont think it was personall.  ? I dont know how to bring the bashing article over but if you could would u and then we all can judge. |
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Post by dogcatcher on Feb 21, 2008 14:43:16 GMT -4
So, your going to stop people from making comments and criticizing about how they don't like the way that Grant can't aim at the net, or the way that Mayer is inconsistant??
The Bashing Post that I created was meant to inform people to not to be personally bashing players & staff. That article doesn't personally bash him IMO, and again, the article is staying.
MOVE ON.
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Post by joey on Feb 21, 2008 14:55:01 GMT -4
I agree that Gallant and his knuckles are an important part of the Sea Dogs team if they don't want to have to deal with some of the B.S. that happens behind the play and in the "scrums". I also think that we are a tough enough team to have him sit in the "pressbox" on some nights and have the others control the other teams agression. Guys like Grant, Sauve, Sparling, Howes, Leduc and Thomas are all able to handle themselves in the corners and can drop 'em if need be. It's not like we are being bullied into submission on a regular basis....there is a place for Brett in the lineup, but IMO we would be better served as a team if he was a healthy scratch on some nights and dressed when he is needed, the refs and the league have a job to do in making sure the skilled guys are able to play their game, but on some nights as a coach you know that things will be a little rougher than usual...even us spectators usually know when and who these situations will involve. Yes I would definitly agree if this was Bretts first year here and if that was his only job was to be a enforcer on the team. But this is his 3rd year here and he has earned the right to be in the lineup every night. Jacques said it himself even when hes on the bench he knows what to say and not say to the players . The Seadogs are doing a lot better job with their young players than most teams. very rarely does any of the rookies sit out much more than 1 game at a time. Other teams may sit rookies 10 games or more. The Dogs are struggling right now but you cant put your finger on one thing ,it a combination of a lot of things. Grant is doing a great job as captain but maybe its time to pick some assistant captains to take some of the load of him. Not saying that it has anything to do with it ,im saying it might change the mentallity of the team just enough to get us back track. |
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Post by reddogbluedog on Feb 21, 2008 15:44:56 GMT -4
joey what has changed and most people see it is that teams are getting more physical with us and we do not have the answer. I said I don't care who steps up but we need a hard hitting line. Our little guys are getting whacked around with ease. Has Dido been a factor in the last few games? Watch real close and see what the others teams strategies are and it comes down to hitting every dog that moves. I think we are getting out muscled and this is my opinion. If you think two "A's" on jerseys will solve this problem then that is your opinion. Are people that blind that they can't see us being challenged on the physical side? When I see the last place team in our division out hit us by 15 and come away with the win I have concerns. If everyone else in Harbour Station thinks we are fine then I must be wrong. Yes were are in first place but in the last month have we played like a first place team preparing for playoffs? Bathurst and Lewiston could prove to be really important games for establishing where we stand for the rest of the year. |
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Post by springer on Feb 21, 2008 15:59:07 GMT -4
Killer I saw what you wrote so I just took a quick look at the team's stats and who has been playing physical. Looking at the good hits I see Thomas with 99, Sauve 83, Stich 80 and Howes 77 and after that it kind of drops off dramatically. So saying Thomas has not been consistent is kind of far fetched would you not say and he gets very limited ice? I like having Gallant in the line up but I agree with some in here that say we need to get more physical especially when the playoffs come. How we do that with the personal we have I am not sure. By the way physical does not mean fighting. Howes plays very physical and I have never seen him fight once. I would like to see us hit more and whoever steps up to the plate is fine with me.
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Post by killer on Feb 21, 2008 16:10:36 GMT -4
Killer I saw what you wrote so I just took a quick look at the team's stats and who has been playing physical. Looking at the good hits I see Thomas with 99, Sauve 83, Stich 80 and Howes 77 and after that it kind of drops off dramatically. So saying Thomas has not been consistent is kind of far fetched would you not say and he gets very limited ice? I like having Gallant in the line up but I agree with some in here that say we need to get more physical especially when the playoffs come. How we do that with the personal we have I am not sure. By the way physical does not mean fighting. Howes plays very physical and I have never seen him fight once. I would like to see us hit more and whoever steps up to the plate is fine with me. I didn;t say fighting equals toughness, I said he wasn;t playing with that chip on his shoulder or throwing out big hits like he did at the start of the season but Thomas throwing big hits and playing gritty does lead to fights. Maybe they should cut the ice time Thomas gets, he looks tired and sluggish out there ;D |
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Post by joey on Feb 21, 2008 17:03:06 GMT -4
So, your going to stop people from making comments and criticizing about how they don't like the way that Grant can't aim at the net, or the way that Mayer is inconsistant?? The Bashing Post that I created was meant to inform people to not to be personally bashing players & staff. That article doesn't personally bash him IMO, and again, the article is staying. MOVE ON. WHEN IM READY ILL MOVE ON. If some one stated that Grant missed the net thats one thing, but in the next paragragh call him a goon and state different reasons why he should not be dressed i would call that personal. IMO NOW ILL MOVE ON. |
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Post by habh8er on Feb 22, 2008 0:09:35 GMT -4
Yes I would definitly agree if this was Bretts first year here and if that was his only job was to be a enforcer on the team. But this is his 3rd year here and he has earned the right to be in the lineup every night. Jacques said it himself even when hes on the bench he knows what to say and not say to the players . The Seadogs are doing a lot better job with their young players than most teams. very rarely does any of the rookies sit out much more than 1 game at a time. Other teams may sit rookies 10 games or more. The Dogs are struggling right now but you cant put your finger on one thing ,it a combination of a lot of things. Grant is doing a great job as captain but maybe its time to pick some assistant captains to take some of the load of him. Not saying that it has anything to do with it ,im saying it might change the mentallity of the team just enough to get us back track. What is Bretts job on the team if it's not to kick some @$$ once in a while and pump up the volume in the building and on the bench? He's not here to score goals or kill penaltys. Doesn't matter if it's his first day or 4th year ...it's what's best for the team, and the team has to come first. I don't agree that he has bought a free pass to start every game because of the past. Hopefully Jacques doesn't need Brett on the bench to tell the guys what they need to hear...I thought that was his job...if Gallant's coaching the team, we're in more trouble than I thought  . As far as appointing some "A's" I don't see that as any kind of a fix for any of our problems, and I don't think it's about to happen 5 1/2 months into the season, but hey whatever... |
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Post by habh8er on Feb 22, 2008 0:36:55 GMT -4
Killer I saw what you wrote so I just took a quick look at the team's stats and who has been playing physical. Looking at the good hits I see Thomas with 99, Sauve 83, Stich 80 and Howes 77 and after that it kind of drops off dramatically. So saying Thomas has not been consistent is kind of far fetched would you not say and he gets very limited ice? I like having Gallant in the line up but I agree with some in here that say we need to get more physical especially when the playoffs come. How we do that with the personal we have I am not sure. By the way physical does not mean fighting. Howes plays very physical and I have never seen him fight once. I would like to see us hit more and whoever steps up to the plate is fine with me. You say that Thomas has 99 Given hits, but did you look at how many the top guys had?....almost double ...and we only have 4 guys in the top 70 or so, and only two of those are defencemen. We don't play phisical ..Those 4 guys you said have 339 of the teams 798 total hits. Thats 42.5% of the teams total hits from 4 guys,,,if we want a checking line it looks like Thomas, Howes and Charland they are the guys that throw the most hits...and next is none other than...Chris Didomenico  ...uh oh! |
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Post by canucklehead on Feb 22, 2008 9:15:38 GMT -4
So, your going to stop people from making comments and criticizing about how they don't like the way that Grant can't aim at the net, or the way that Mayer is inconsistant?? The Bashing Post that I created was meant to inform people to not to be personally bashing players & staff. That article doesn't personally bash him IMO, and again, the article is staying. MOVE ON. WHEN IM READY ILL MOVE ON. If some one stated that Grant missed the net thats one thing, but in the next paragragh call him a goon and state different reasons why he should not be dressed i would call that personal. IMO NOW ILL MOVE ON. If you have an issue with the Admin staff I would recommend sending them a PM not saying things like "When I'm ready I'll move on" It's comments like this that make our jobs more difficult because someone is told to "Move on" then they say something smart like they'll move on when they're ready to. Not kewl! As for the article the writer clearly has issues with enforcers in general this isn't an uncommon thing it happens. While I don't agree with his opinion just like others on this board are entitled to it. That being said I think Gallant has alot more to offer to the club and I'm not sure you can consider him a goon he doesn't skate around like a head hunter looking for someone to fight every game like some other guys. I prefer the term enforcer which I personally don't consider to be the same thing as a goon he simply ensures that other players mainly key players are not being mauled by other players. Gallant has a busted up hand almost everytime he fights yet he does it anyway knowing it's gonna hurt afterwards but he sticks his neck out for the team. I like him on our 4th line although come playoff time I'm guessing he'll be sitting quite a bit unless things start getting ugly which could very well happen. Maybe someone should mail in an rebuttal Pug you out there? ;D |
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Post by springer on Feb 22, 2008 9:16:42 GMT -4
Exactly habh8ter you cannot hit if you do not play. Not bad numbers for 3 minutes a game. LOL
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Post by joey on Feb 22, 2008 9:25:15 GMT -4
Yes I would definitly agree if this was Bretts first year here and if that was his only job was to be a enforcer on the team. But this is his 3rd year here and he has earned the right to be in the lineup every night. Jacques said it himself even when hes on the bench he knows what to say and not say to the players . The Seadogs are doing a lot better job with their young players than most teams. very rarely does any of the rookies sit out much more than 1 game at a time. Other teams may sit rookies 10 games or more. The Dogs are struggling right now but you cant put your finger on one thing ,it a combination of a lot of things. Grant is doing a great job as captain but maybe its time to pick some assistant captains to take some of the load of him. Not saying that it has anything to do with it ,im saying it might change the mentallity of the team just enough to get us back track. What is Bretts job on the team if it's not to kick some @$$ once in a while and pump up the volume in the building and on the bench? He's not here to score goals or kill penaltys. Doesn't matter if it's his first day or 4th year ...it's what's best for the team, and the team has to come first. I don't agree that he has bought a free pass to start every game because of the past. Hopefully Jacques doesn't need Brett on the bench to tell the guys what they need to hear...I thought that was his job...if Gallant's coaching the team, we're in more trouble than I thought . As far as appointing some "A's" I don't see that as any kind of a fix for any of our problems, and I don't think it's about to happen 5 1/2 months into the season, but hey whatever... Yes , I agree thats part of Bretts job along with playing on a line and not being a liablity. Hoopers job is to score. Stich job is to be good defensive defenseman.You add all the rest of your players and that makes a team. Not all goal scorers or defensive forwards but a mixture, IMO ONLY I agree with you who plays is whats right for the team. And whats right for the team its not what me or you thinks its up to the coaches.IMO On Gallant coaching i was just referring to a article I read it which the head coach stated he was good on the bench. Which is a asset.IMO When i mentions A"s , IMO. We have the same team(SAME PLAYERS) that was rolling along and winning most of our games.Im not one of the arm chair coaches that get on here and think their coaching this team.When things are not going good. ex; sit this guy ,play this guy more, etc. I just suggested our chemistry is a little off right now and it might just help in that reguard . |
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Post by habh8er on Feb 22, 2008 10:37:00 GMT -4
Yeah, Joey we do seem to agree for the most part, the on-ice chemistry of the team seems to be at a low point for whatever reason..and I'm sure there is no easy fix ** at least we aren't calling for the coaches head here**. But something has to give. I think remember Jacques saying that he liked the old style of team,... one with one Captain and no "alternates". The responsibility is on the whole team equally....I like the idea too.
Like Canuckle said above Brett has a role here, but in the playoffs IMO he will find himself having to "take one for the team" and have a seat sometimes....he is not as much of a liability as some would say, Canuckle likes to refer to him as an enforcer rather than a goon...I would have to suggest that the word deterrent comes to mind for me, there are the Legros' and Herr's of the world though, but for the most part it's good to have that policeman out there ........so to Mr. Urquhart thats my response to "use of enforcer hinders" I think that lack of an enforcer would hinder a junior club throughout a 70 game season. Nobody likes being beat up...regardless of if it's on the ice ...or in the media!
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Post by pug on Feb 23, 2008 9:24:52 GMT -4
dont know what to think when i read some of this bullshit* first of this kid has givin everything to this team. he deserves to be there. ask his team and fellow players what they think of brett gallant. what is he like in the dressing room* on the bench always talking and helping the players.when on the ice he does his job. nothing fancy. but brings energy to that line. no not the most talented player but never question his heart* he is hurt now. but for now let the coaches coach. and let the fans some who think they can coach just sit and cheer for your team.
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