SEA DOGS MAKE ROSTER MOVES

[canucklehead]

tcats14 said:

JB knows how to keep us on are feet jezz first full season as coach and gm and hes already making moves we have never seen saint john make but will it ever cost us I hope it doesnt come back and bite us... Keeps the players playing hard as they might get traded who knows with jb right... if gallent comes that makes anoher set of bros on the team however charland got released soo who knows what that was alll about..

It's all about clearing an extra 20 spot

[hockey31]

stupid move to let go knox

[berner]

Not a stupid move at all. If we replace his spot with someone who makes the team better, how could that be seen as stupid??

Is there no one available that's better than Jordan Knox?

[hockey31]

no there isnt, canadian jr a hockey player of the year, no there is not, jb just didnt give him a chance, playing him on the fourth line, pfft

[killer]

I think Knox had the potential to be a solid Qmjhl player if he would have entered the league at a younger age. Being 1 of 3 overage spots and having to adjust to a higher level to play would be very difficult to overcome. Tough decisions like this have to be made and its always a shame to see players released but thats part of the business. I wish Knox and Charland all the best in the future

[canucklehead]

I've always like Knox but like it was said earlier he really needed to enter into the league at a younger age to gain the experience. He actually did play on several lines even during the preseason it just never worked out. It's really unfortunate for both guys but it had to happen.

Best of luck to both guys!

[bjindaho]

So he's gonna play above Sparling, Didomenico, Liske, Leduc, Picard, Gauthier? I don't think so. In fact, Jordan Knox and Francis Guerette-Charland were our two worst forwards thus far. They were both out-hustled and out played by their linemates, and were both given ample opportunity (Knox started camp on the first line and played his way down to the fourth, and was still being outplayed) and Charland got hurt and didn't hustle. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Brett Gallant brought more to the table offensively than these two did, simply because he skated hard, hit people, and intimidated.

Canadian Jr. A player of the year means nothing when the guy only seems to be trying every second shift, is often out of position, and really only provided the team with energy.

[bjindaho]

Also, I'm sure JB went to Summerside and said something like "Release him for free or we will have to cut him" because the team couldn't justify paying for their 3rd 20.

[Murph]

hockey31 said:

stupid move to let go knox

It's utterly ridiculous that Fullerton is being kept as a backup 20 year old. In a league where you can only have 3, an overage goalie should be playing 80-90% of the games (the worse the team, the higher the amount of games). Even if room was cleared for Gallant, either Charland or Knox should still be there, and Fullerton gone. Roger Kennedy is available for nothing, and he would bring the Sea Dogs as much as Travis Fullerton would.

[Judas In My Mind]

Not getting into the Fullerton debate again. Everyone knows I think we should have either gone with him as our starter this year and drafted a Euro forward, or drafted Mayer and unloaded Fullerton because the 20 year old backup is a waste of a slot.

Charland and Knox though both deserved to be let go. Charland showed he has offensive talent and the ability to play at this level....too bad he also showed he cannot stay healthy at all. I never once saw him take a big hit or block a shot or anything that you'd think could lead to injury, but still he got hurt. Good player, brittle body.

Knox...I was pulling hard for him but the guy showed nothing. Even with Dido and Liske on the same line to start things off, he was terrible. No matter who he played with it just didn't work. Sorry Knox but I would have kept Charland over you to be honest, despite Charland's injury woes. He showed a lot more than Knox did.

No need to cut Fullerton anymore. We only have him and Picard-Hooper as 20's. Likely we have Brad Gallant coming in the future. Name someone else available out there we could get without selling off high draft picks or prospects? There isn't anyone. Peters was like the only other guy I could think of and he got sent to Drummondville so Halifax could get the goalie they wanted.

Fullerton is better than Kennedy. The only way you'd move Fullerton would be if you could get an extra 20 year old that could put up numbers offensively. I don't see any out there that we could get for the right price. It looks like it's going to be Picard-Hooper, Fullerton and Gallant, or Picard-Hooper, Fullerton, and nobody as a third.

Whatever. We're reading too much into this anyway. We have a good enough team as it is right now that we should make the playoffs. It's not like we're trying a Memorial Cup run here folks. That makes Brad Gallant an excellent 20 for us. He'll bring entertainment for the fans while not eating up too much ice time for our younger players. Players we'll be needing to perform when we do make a push for something special in the future.

[chillywack]

murph said:

hockey31 said:

stupid move to let go knox

It's utterly ridiculous that Fullerton is being kept as a backup 20 year old. In a league where you can only have 3, an overage goalie should be playing 80-90% of the games (the worse the team, the higher the amount of games). Even if room was cleared for Gallant, either Charland or Knox should still be there, and Fullerton gone. Roger Kennedy is available for nothing, and he would bring the Sea Dogs as much as Travis Fullerton would.

So you would rather have JB cut Fullerton today, and go with Mayer and Passingham? Get real. Mayer isn't ready to be a starter yet, and to go with Passingham as Mayer's backup ... do you WANT to make the playoffs this year?

Having Fullerton is going to help BOTH goalies this year. If Mayer proves himself ready to be a starter in this league at Christmas, you bring in Passingham or whoever, and trade or release Fullerton. If Mayer doesn't prove himself to be ready, you keep Fullerton.

[killer]

Very true Leask Mayer has not taken the bull by the horns yet and shown he can carry the heavy load as a starter which makes having a capable option in Fullerton regardless of his age.

Kennedy is useless and is not even worth the the fee to pay to acquire him off waivers. If it had not been for the Moose loyalty to Kennedy (have no clue why) he would not have even made the team the last 2 seasons as Yetman out played him but yet was still sent down.

[mrlittlewolf]

Good points by both Leask and Chilly!!! As a retired coach there is nothing harder than releasing a player, trust me on that one. JB has always stated if there is a move to be made to make us better he does it!! With that comes the trauma for both him and the out going players. You think he likes to do this to a kid this early as a 20 yr old NO WAY!!! I am sure Knox had something to do with the idiot in Summerside but prob not all. F Charland I would guess we lost confidence in his ability to go a week without hurting!!!

[Y Ddraig Goch]

chillywack said:

murph said:

It's utterly ridiculous that Fullerton is being kept as a backup 20 year old. In a league where you can only have 3, an overage goalie should be playing 80-90% of the games (the worse the team, the higher the amount of games). Even if room was cleared for Gallant, either Charland or Knox should still be there, and Fullerton gone. Roger Kennedy is available for nothing, and he would bring the Sea Dogs as much as Travis Fullerton would.

do you WANT to make the playoffs this year?

I don't think murph is concerned too much about his team making the play-offs one iota. ;D

[bjindaho]

well, i'd worry if we started a massive brawl and somehow got all the mooseheads thrown out of the league. other than that, i think you're safe