Sea Dogs' boss calls for changes

[berner]

murph said:

So how do you prove teams aren't paying the players to report? Right now, with there being a level of openness about what's going on, I don't know how you prove how much Anthony got, or Brown recieved. It'll be much harder if teams need to be quiet about it.

If teams are caught, what's the penalty? When Bathurst used money in a transaction in 98-99 to aqcuire players from Chicoutimi, there penalty was they had to pick at the end of the 1st round of the draft. Not much of a penalty.

How about preventing a team from drafting AT ALL, let alone at the bottom of a round. The league says, in 2010, you can't make a selection in the first 2 rounds, but you also can't trade those draft picks either. Does that work?

That's for the League to study and decide on, not me.

[Murph]

jrsuperstar said:

Murph I am not suggesting they use this idea as there are a ton of negatives to using this. It's just an example on how to get around this problem.

The Q boosts its education contribution to say...1 paid year of schooling per 1 year of service as a player in the league, taken as an average amount of what it would cost at a Canadian school. The league and teams would have to agree on what percentage each are responsible for.

A player wanting to play in the Q and enter the draft then has to sign into the draft. What he signs states he chooses to enter the Q draft and waives his NCAA eligibility to do so. That way say if the Sea Dogs are secretly offering him extra bonuses to come to the Q instead of NCAA, but the Sea Dogs have the fifth pick, the other four teams have a shot at this guy because they know he isn't going to pull the NCAA thing on them. The only team with an advantage to make extra deals to get a kid to choose Q over NCAA is the team with the first pick I suppose as they are guaranteed to get their guy.

Like I said that is not my suggestion. There are many flaws with that idea, but it would solve the "I'm going NCAA, oops now because a rich team picked me and pays me well I changed my mind" problem.

I agree that something needs to be put in place, but I'm not sure given this leagues history of "looking the other way" how well it would be policed.

Now, you say 1 year in the Q, equals 1 year scholarship. But a scholarship to which school? Canadian school? That's roughly 10K. These players who are bluffing are looking for upwards of 250K. So do you offer them NCAA money? If so, what school? Some Division 1 schools are about 20K, and some are over 50K. You would also have to offer this to every player in the league. Where does the money come from to do that?

As far as losing your NCAA eligibility by entering the QMJHL draft, the NCAA would decide who's eligible to play in their league, not the QMJHL. I don't see what motivation they would have to possibly lose impact athletes.

[Judas In My Mind]

Murph did you miss the part where I said "I am not suggesting they use this idea as there are a ton of negatives to using this. It's just an example on how to get around this problem."??

1. It's not like the NCAA is offering these kids $250,000 cash. They are offering them a free education, which is more expensive in the US than here. Thus we offer the equivalent, based off schooling at a Canadian university. If they don't end up going to university and instead go pro, they don't collect the free education. The only reason these kids are asking for that amount of money is because in some cases, they can get it.

2. I could have just as easily suggested that the Q makes a policy where to enter the Q draft you have to declare an agent beforehand, even if the agent is just a one day contract with someone like...the player's father. Having an agent kills the NCAA eligibility.

I'm not a league official/administrator but they seem to recognize that this is a problem getting way out of hand that needs to be fixed. They would know better ways to fix it than I would. Just fix it is the bottom line. Until it is fixed though we can't bitch about teams doing these things, even teams doing it that don't like things as they are. As things stand right now, if a team wants to snag a top level propsect and that prospect goes, "Oh I think I might go NCAA instead..." they pretty much have to offer him a package or risk losing him to NCAA, or pass on drafting him and lose him to another team.

[markofthebeast]

murph said:

As far as losing your NCAA eligibility by entering the QMJHL draft, the NCAA would decide who's eligible to play in their league, not the QMJHL. I don't see what motivation they would have to possibly lose impact athletes.

No your wrong it clearly states in the NCAA rules for eligibility that if you opt into a pro draft you automatically loose your NCAA eligibility.

The way to solve this issue is to set a date for all prospective CHL players to opt into the proper CHL league draft any player who doesn't opt in can not be drafted if the player decides to change his mind and play in the CHL he has to wait until the next season and opt into that draft.