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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 25, 2009 19:23:26 GMT -4
Lewy was high on Shaw leading up to the 2008 Draft...might be a fit.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Dec 25, 2009 19:30:29 GMT -4
Lewy was high on Shaw leading up to the 2008 Draft...might be a fit. His father being a scout there might help it out a bit. |
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Post by Clubber Lang on Dec 25, 2009 19:37:16 GMT -4
Lewy was high on Shaw leading up to the 2008 Draft...might be a fit. I would make that trade in a heart beat. |
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Post by fivehole on Dec 25, 2009 21:36:14 GMT -4
I would say lewi is waiting to see how many draft picks mario will throw in......."cause prices are high you know........what can you do?  ?""" hehehehe ;D ;D |
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Post by hal on Dec 26, 2009 6:14:20 GMT -4
Lewy was high on Shaw leading up to the 2008 Draft...might be a fit. Mario already told The Post that he considers Shaw to be one of the cornerstones for 2012 . |
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Post by reality on Dec 26, 2009 9:17:50 GMT -4
That could be the kiss of death right there since Michael Ward was chosen to be captain to lead the team on the road, where they've played their best hockey this year.
You also have to remember that those cornerstones included 7 players not even on the roster, who might never wear an Eagles uniform!
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Post by fivehole on Dec 26, 2009 9:58:04 GMT -4
Lewy was high on Shaw leading up to the 2008 Draft...might be a fit. shaws pic is used in the full page ad today in the post........if so the right hand does not know what the left is doing? |
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Post by reality on Dec 26, 2009 10:21:51 GMT -4
fivehole, when you look at the whole picture including the probable chances of success this year and the future of the Eagles franchise the next few years with the loss of young players and draft picks, it is more a case of the right hand not knowing what the right hand is doing!
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Post by fivehole on Dec 26, 2009 11:30:53 GMT -4
fivehole, when you look at the whole picture including the probable chances of success this year and the future of the Eagles franchise the next few years with the loss of young players and draft picks, it is more a case of the right hand not knowing what the right hand is doing! they dont have a clue but they hired this guy without shopping so they deserve what is going to happen next.......and it will be bad. He is following exactly what hfx did and look where they are. I am not even a hockey person and I can see it, Mario will not get another head coaching job anywhere if he gets fired and he knows it. He is desperate and will do desperate things. If he was smart he would not be in cape breton |
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Post by Clubber Lang on Dec 26, 2009 12:04:09 GMT -4
fivehole, when you look at the whole picture including the probable chances of success this year and the future of the Eagles franchise the next few years with the loss of young players and draft picks, it is more a case of the right hand not knowing what the right hand is doing! they dont have a clue but they hired this guy without shopping so they deserve what is going to happen next.......and it will be bad. He is following exactly what hfx did and look where they are. I am not even a hockey person and I can see it, Mario will not get another head coaching job anywhere if he gets fired and he knows it. He is desperate and will do desperate things. If he was smart he would not be in cape breton If Yanick Jean got another chance so would Mario! To be quite honest I don't think Mario has the stamp to make these moves or take the direction he may prefer due to upstair influences. I really don't care that they traded Ward to be quite honest. I heard enough about trading away a captain but let's be honest he missed quite a few games at home and on the road. He should have been one of the elite dmen this year and has not fullfilled those expectations. I was more baffled how Mario let Demkov float away without giving him a fair chance last year with Culligan and Haddad. I would give him a failing grade on that one. I did not like the Fontaine trade either but maybe we give up what we got and that is a 5th rounder for Wall. Fontaine seems to have regressed this year with three points in 23 games. I don't think this is at all a case of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing nor do i think it is the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, it is simply pure politics and how winninig seasons and being competitive is welcomed. I for one would have traded key players last year and this year and we would have been set for next year and the year after. |
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Post by reality on Dec 26, 2009 12:49:47 GMT -4
Clubber, we've all heard the 2 different theories about the decision to buy or sell.
The 1st was that the shareholders were split down the middle about buying or selling and that they had heated meetings about the decision, with the sell group finally giving in.
The 2nd was that the shareholders decided to leave the decision up to Mario.
In neither of those scenarios does it appear that Mario is being handicapped by upstairs influences. On the other hand, it sounds like some of the shareholders could actually see the big picture and wanted to plan for the future for a change.
It's easy to look back and say we should have traded Kevin Asselin and a D that year to prepare for the future Val D'Or series but the Eagles went for it. Despite that, the Eagles came, Oh so close, in that Val D'Or series but some fans might also say I wish we hadn't traded Barberio and Brannon who we could have certainly used the last 2 years. Sometimes, it's very difficult to make the "Buy or Sell" decision but this year it just doesn't seem to have been a very difficult decision at all. Even a 1st round win will not be worth the ultimate price!
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Post by hal on Dec 26, 2009 13:46:20 GMT -4
I was told by a source near the Organization that he had the Green Light to Sell or Buy ! The Board came to a consensus and this is what they decided to do ................" LEAVE IT IN MARIO"S HANDS ".I honestly think that if he gets an extension "BEFORE" the end of the Season then they are gonna turn pretty sour ......quickly...........if we exit stage right in Round 1 and we have only 2 home dates to show for it . If the extension is tied to the Playoff Performance then well it may very well be ..................Pogey Time ! The sad part about this is that even if they win a Round or heaven forbid 2 Rounds that the Team will never ever look quite like it could have in the upcoming years and that will grate a lot of people and none moreso than the Regular Posters on this Board .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 26, 2009 13:53:31 GMT -4
Clubber, we've all heard the 2 different theories about the decision to buy or sell. The 1st was that the shareholders were split down the middle about buying or selling and that they had heated meetings about the decision, with the sell group finally giving in. The 2nd was that the shareholders decided to leave the decision up to Mario. In neither of those scenarios does it appear that Mario is being handicapped by upstairs influences. On the other hand, it sounds like some of the shareholders could actually see the big picture and wanted to plan for the future for a change. It's easy to look back and say we should have traded Kevin Asselin and a D that year to prepare for the future Val D'Or series but the Eagles went for it. Despite that, the Eagles came, Oh so close, in that Val D'Or series but some fans might also say I wish we hadn't traded Barberio and Brannon who we could have certainly used the last 2 years. Sometimes, it's very difficult to make the "Buy or Sell" decision but this year it just doesn't seem to have been a very difficult decision at all. Even a 1st round win will not be worth the ultimate price! It's really not that difficult. You can't constantly buy without selling and not expect a terrible team for a little while. And as Halifax and Bathurst(1 big market, 1 small market) have shown once you get in the basement it's not easy to get out. I have no problem with not trading a Kevin Asselin or a Dean Ouellet or a Slaney or a Cully if there is some sort of a plan in place. But I do have a problem with not trading Asselin, AND Ouellet, AND Slaney, AND Culligan yet expecting to win within a year or 2 of those players leaving even though they were great players and left with no championships and no future assets to show for them. It's the whole picture that's the problem. Zero sign of a plan beyond right now even though the organization is spending money on things like a Memorial Cup bid without bothering to ice a Memorial Cup calibre team. And I know it's not 2011-2012 yet but it's damn near 2010 and we haven't sold since January 2003 yet are expecting miracles to happen. Trying to stay consistantly average out of fear of being bad and losing fans is no way to run a QMJHL franchise. Especially when your fans have proven to be nothing but loyal and you're now a large part of the community. It's not that buying/selling is a difficult decision, it's that we have nobody willing to make the decisions that are right for the good of the team and organizations rather then for the good of themselves. Something is seriously wrong in the direction being given and it's now showing itself on the ice. I knew last year this ship was headed for a wreck, I just didn't realize it would get this bad this quick. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 26, 2009 13:58:36 GMT -4
I was told by a source near the Organization that he had the Green Light to Sell or Buy ! The Board came to a consensus and this is what they decided to do ................" LEAVE IT IN MARIO"S HANDS ".I honestly think that if he gets an extension "BEFORE" the end of the Season then they are gonna turn pretty sour ......quickly...........if we exit stage right in Round 1 and we have only 2 home dates to show for it . If the extension is tied to the Playoff Performance then well it may very well be ..................Pogey Time ! The sad part about this is that even if they win a Round or heaven forbid 2 Rounds that the Team will never ever look quite like it could have in the upcoming years and that will grate a lot of people and none moreso than the Regular Posters on this Board . hal, the sad thing is that all these trades seem to be aimed at keeping 3200 or so asses in seats right now rather then looking at the big picture and a year with 3500-4000 season ticket holders in 18 months if they win that Mem Cup bid. |
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Post by reality on Dec 28, 2009 14:52:31 GMT -4
Since we are talking possible trades still, I guess this is the thread for it.
The Eagles have made 1 lateral trade so far a 20 for a 20 which will probably help us up front but in the long run leaves us short on D, only 1 injury away from disaster. Unfortunately it also cost us LeSieur and the better of 2 draft picks. By itself, how much better did it make the Eagles right now, while obviously, it really hurts the future of the Eagles?
Which of the many rumours will come true? There are certainly no shortage of rumours and names right now!
Amyot, Allen, Wall, Dion, Trudeau, Tessier, Paquette, a Shawinigan teammate of Legault's
Who did I miss? Who do you think is actually coming this way if anybody?
I see a problem right now in that other teams are probably only interested in about 3 of our roster players: Ellis, Fournier and Cuzner that the Eagles don't want to trade and 2-3 of our non roster players that "might somehow develop like we hope in the future". It was only a year ago that we all, as Eagle fans had such high hopes for LeSieur, Lapostelle and Shaw. So how does Mario make a deal to actually improve the team significantly without giving away any more quality draft picks or any of their valued young players.
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