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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 22, 2010 14:29:07 GMT -4
I never called Clarke anything. Anyways, too bad that the rivalry on these boards are more heated than the on ice product...lol. Hopefully next year will change that. The reffing is what is....bad. As for 2012, that is a joke. We need more than luck. We need a GM,coach, president than the luck. The only thing that will spark another Nova Scotia rivalry is the 2 teams both contending, and that will not happen any time soon.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 22, 2010 14:31:29 GMT -4
I am not sure what the refs are seeing, 7-1 is ridiculous. Some of the penalties that were called were borderline, and CB were worthy of a few of those as well. Legault is chicken-shit, he picks and chooses who he cheap shots and I am fairly certain that he usually checks their ID. Going around chirping 16-17 year olds, than turning down Dimitrik (hardly a Mike Tyson), says alot about the character of this guy. Something tells me he would be a hell of alot quieter if CB wasn't as big as they are. Last place team against a team that has loaded up, and I was waiting for Legault to ride his stick out to center ice after scoring. As it was, he went chirping guys after scoring. Big-time celebrations when you score against or beat a team you should easily handle, looks alittle silly! I predict a far different result in next years 'Battle of NS'! What a bunch of cry babies you are! How many times did you guys win in the last say 15 match ups? Even when you had the power house three years back we stil beat you bums At least use some facts if you're going to argue with them. And saying we beat them in a year where they ELIMINATED us in the playoffs is just wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 14:32:23 GMT -4
Dmitruk really shouldn't have wasted his time chasing Legault around yesterday, Legault is one of those classic yappy Q divers that Shawinigan has developed for years.
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Post by Smiley on Feb 22, 2010 14:35:29 GMT -4
Young teams getting more penalties then veteran teams isn't a ref seeing a 1-sided game, it's what happens when 16 and 17yr olds play 19 and 20yr olds in hockey for the most part. to add to that, it is also a result of Halifax's style of play. Halifax isn't the most talented team, but they work hard. When you have younger players working hard sometimes that results in crossing over the line to being penalized. It happens, as the team matures they realize how far they can go without being penalized...this is all just part of the learning experience.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 22, 2010 14:39:18 GMT -4
Young teams getting more penalties then veteran teams isn't a ref seeing a 1-sided game, it's what happens when 16 and 17yr olds play 19 and 20yr olds in hockey for the most part. to add to that, it is also a result of Halifax's style of play. Halifax isn't the most talented team, but they work hard. When you have younger players working hard sometimes that results in crossing over the line to being penalized. It happens, as the team matures they realize how far they can go without being penalized...this is all just part of the learning experience. Exactly....I really find it hard to believe that after 15 years of watching this league and basically watching the amount of referee's double at all levels of hockey that Halifax fans are still surprised by mediocre officiating in this league, especially with such a young team....what do people expect???
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Post by defresh101 on Feb 22, 2010 14:39:42 GMT -4
Kinda goes back to the "Will" over "Skill" motto. If the the "Will" is yet not perfected and gets over excited it can lead to a costly penalities that skilled teams can and do take advantage of.
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Post by canbeer on Feb 22, 2010 14:53:48 GMT -4
Where are all these Eagle fans predicting championships is what I want to know. The majority of us are already very prepared to lose to Moncton....and as Halifax fans should know more then any other team in this league right now, the fans have no control over what management does. And predicting you'll finally beat us over the next 2 years considering you've been the worst team in the league the LAST 2 years is really going out on a limb. Young teams getting more penalties then veteran teams isn't a ref seeing a 1-sided game, it's what happens when 16 and 17yr olds play 19 and 20yr olds in hockey for the most part. You say "finally" beat you over the next two years as if we've never been the better team. You've been better the last two years congratulations. Halifax has gone though a lot of changes and most fans are happy they've finally come... CB the same except that fans don't seem quite as happy. Completely different years and the end result may be CB has one more playoff series win then Halifax. Young team taking more penalties is likely but 7-1 IS one sided. I've gotten somewhat used to watching 15 years of bad reffing in this league... for the Moose the last couple months it's been at its worst. Teams seem to be getting a free ride against Halifax lately... plain and simple is that it's frustrating.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 22, 2010 14:59:22 GMT -4
Where are all these Eagle fans predicting championships is what I want to know. The majority of us are already very prepared to lose to Moncton....and as Halifax fans should know more then any other team in this league right now, the fans have no control over what management does. And predicting you'll finally beat us over the next 2 years considering you've been the worst team in the league the LAST 2 years is really going out on a limb. Young teams getting more penalties then veteran teams isn't a ref seeing a 1-sided game, it's what happens when 16 and 17yr olds play 19 and 20yr olds in hockey for the most part. You say "finally" beat you over the next two years as if we've never been the better team. You've been better the last two years congratulations. Halifax has gone though a lot of changes and most fans are happy they've finally come... CB the same except that fans don't seem quite as happy. Completely different years and the end result may be CB has one more playoff series win then Halifax. Young team taking more penalties is likely but 7-1 IS one sided. I've gotten somewhat used to watching 15 years of bad reffing in this league... for the Moose the last couple months it's been at its worst. Teams seem to be getting a free ride against Halifax lately... plain and simple is that it's frustrating. I only said finally because you've been the leagues bitch for 2 straight seasons and that's pretty rare. I'm sure in 2 years the roles will be reversed and the whining here in CB won't be quite as loud since we have about 1/2 the fan base that Halifax has when they're actually competing.
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Post by Murph on Feb 22, 2010 17:07:05 GMT -4
Not necessarily. You can get Code 4's for being deemed the instigator in a fight, and for mouthing off at the ref, among other things. There you go again , if the kid did all this he gotta go ! I mean didn;t you learn anything from that Last Weasel that played there................Old What,s His Name ? I believe you're thinking of Kevin Asselin. I definately see the similarities. However Clarke is only 17, so he has time to get it together. Asselin was still running guys from behind at 20.
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Post by canbeer on Feb 22, 2010 17:56:57 GMT -4
There you go again , if the kid did all this he gotta go ! I mean didn;t you learn anything from that Last Weasel that played there................Old What,s His Name ? I believe you're thinking of Kevin Asselin. I definately see the similarities. However Clarke is only 17, so he has time to get it together. Asselin was still running guys from behind at 20. Good call... one difference being Asselin never seemed to receive the punishment he deserved. Another guy that you wanted to stone at centre ice but you would love to have on your team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 18:23:58 GMT -4
Young teams getting more penalties then veteran teams isn't a ref seeing a 1-sided game, it's what happens when 16 and 17yr olds play 19 and 20yr olds in hockey for the most part. to add to that, it is also a result of Halifax's style of play. Halifax isn't the most talented team, but they work hard. When you have younger players working hard sometimes that results in crossing over the line to being penalized. It happens, as the team matures they realize how far they can go without being penalized...this is all just part of the learning experience. Cape Breton is a big mature team and like I said early seemed to know how to stay on the line, not over it. I remember one sequence where they threw a couple of questionable hits that did have the refs looking and then I think it was McGuigan took a similar hit but did sort of tried to grind him into the boards and got called for roughing. For sure less skilled teams tend to take more penalties against better opponents to try and stop the skill. You would think I would get used to the quality of officiating in this league but it is hard to do. I comment about bad calls on both sides when I am watching (although I am not quite as verbal about it when it is in our favor lol) There have been some good posts in this thread. It has been a long 2 years (really 3) in Moose Country, sometimes it is hard to stay positive and not look to be critical of other teams. The Moose are still my team and I try to find all the positives I can.
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Post by hfxfan09 on Feb 22, 2010 21:20:01 GMT -4
I totally agree webber but the rewards will start to come next season we'll be a mid-pack team next season unfortunately when rebuilding you have to take growing pains. I'm already excited for next season and can not wait for our home opener its going to be another long summer!!
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Post by Haligonian on Feb 24, 2010 15:27:49 GMT -4
John Moore talks with Clarke about the suspension and his style of play:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2010 18:47:46 GMT -4
That was good , thanks Haligonian.
I believe he is trying and I sure hope he gets his game where he want's it to be.
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Post by Hfx2012 on Feb 24, 2010 22:46:05 GMT -4
That was good , thanks Haligonian. I believe he is trying and I sure hope he gets his game where he want's it to be. He has taken some bonehead penalties but it's obvious he's a key part of the team. I like his play just not the 3rd period bonehead stuff. Good interview with John. Next year is a big year for him, hopefully he does what he says he's going to do. Here's a piece from Jennifer Casey; National Pastime A blog dedicated to Hockey and other things I deem to be important at the moment. Monday, February 22, 2010 Walking the line. Halifax Mooseheads 17-year-old defenseman Garrett Clarke plays on the edge. He's gritty, he hits, he digs hard and he's a pit bull around his own net. Generally, a real annoyance to play against. The only problem — he consistently teeters over the edge. As effective as his in-your-face style can be at drawing penalties and creating some jump for his team, he also takes unnecessary and untimely penalties himself. The last thing a not-so-talented team needs... is penalty kills (see: Toronto Maple Leafs). This means Clarke has found himself in the Cam Russell dog house a few times this season. "I'll admit I've got stupid penalties this year," said Clarke while sitting out as a scratch on the team's Rimouski roadtrip a few weeks ago. "Cam's not really disappointed in the way I'm playing, it's just those stupid penalties. I'm hearing it from him and my agent." There's a couple recent examples that come to mind. February 5 game against the Saint John Sea Dogs. The basement Halifax Mooseheads are leading the nation-leading Saint John Sea Dogs by a goal in the third period. Garrett Clarke takes a penalty with 1:47 to go, opening the door for a Michael Kirkpatrick goal with 42 seconds left. You could argue the Sea Dogs would've scored anyway, with all their skill and firepower, but trying to kill off one of the more deadly powerplays can't help your chances at holding onto a lead. And once Kirkpatrick tied it up, you knew the Moose really had no chance at winning. The next game he found himself riding the pine in the third period in a win over Cape Breton and the game after that he was watching from the press box. Fast forward to February 19, the Mooseheads are holding on to a 4-4 tie after blowing a 3-0 lead on the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles. Garrett Clarke takes a kneeing penalty in the offensive zone at the 12:13 mark. Not that a kneeing penalty is ever necessary, but a kneeing penalty in the offensive zone in a tie game is even less so. I'm sure the veins in coach Cam Russell's neck were about to burst. Of course you can guess how the story went, the Screaming Eagles scored on the ensuing five minute powerplay and win the game. To make matters worse, the five-minute kneeing major and game misconduct came with an automatic one-game suspension — at a time when the Mooseheads were already smarting with several injuries. Pascal Amyot out with an injury, seeing his team short-manned tried to come back prematurely and potentially made his injury worse. "I know what I gotta do, I just got to keep playing the way I'm playing. Play gritty stay below that fine line. I just got to go out there and stay cool," says Clarke. "It's tough for me, you get in the heat of the moment you're just trying to play hard and gritty and when I make those stupid penalties I know it hurts the team and it hurts me to see the team hurt like that." Now forget incidents like the above and remember the Garrett Clarke who has scored some timely goals, drawn some timely penalties, and given his team that spark with a big open-ice hit. That's the Garrett Clarke the Halifax Mooseheads need, and Garrett Clarke knows that's the Garrett Clarke the team needs. And that's the Garrett Clarke I hope shows up for training camp in August.
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