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Post by Gman on Mar 17, 2010 7:53:10 GMT -4
we've got 3 first rounders, or so savard says lol... what about Duffy plus Victo's first for the Hali pick? Wow, all of a sudden Duffy is expendable? Wouldn't have anything to do with him getting one shift in the 3rd on Sunday would it? Or the fact that he only had 11 goals as a sophmore? Seems he's not quite living up to his billing, or fell out of favor with the PEI brass.
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Post by lalalaprise on Mar 17, 2010 8:59:59 GMT -4
Lala, how do you compare the talent in the first couple of rounds in this year's midget draft compared to last? I saw you said there are some pretty good individual talents in the upcoming first round but just to compare to a group of kids we've seen for a year now? Honestly...I prefer last years draft on the whole. This year there doesnt seem to be that 1 fail-safe impact forward available. Guys like Burke, Ciampini, Gamelin, Marcotte, O'Brien and Ryan all have questions about their long term potential...whether its Ciampini's skating, Gamelin's size, O'Bren skating/work ethic, Ryan's physical edge, Marcotte's attitude and Burke has fallen off in the 2nd half a bit. Id take Archambault, Beauviller, Leblanc, Bussieres, Veilleux all before any of the forwards this year to be quite honest. On D is a bit different, i think Poulin and Matheson are better than the top guys last year (Oligny/Racine/Ouellet). The depth among defensive prospects is also thin once you get out of the top 20 or so. If you compare this draft to last years, there seems to be more depth among goaltenders and more skilled type forwards, but there are a lot of smaller kids, im talking 3-4 who are barely 5'06 who are going to be drafted because of their high skill level. I guess its a good situation for Halifax...grab the top dman 1st or 2nd and than with the next 4 picks go with 3 skilled forwards and a goalie.
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Post by bois on Mar 17, 2010 9:56:40 GMT -4
we've got 3 first rounders, or so savard says lol... what about Duffy plus Victo's first for the Hali pick? Wow, all of a sudden Duffy is expendable? Wouldn't have anything to do with him getting one shift in the 3rd on Sunday would it? Or the fact that he only had 11 goals as a sophmore? Seems he's not quite living up to his billing, or fell out of favor with the PEI brass. i wouldn't trade him yet unless a team was overpaying, which based on his stats would be hard to imagine them doing, but yeah if the right offer comes along anybody is expendable
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Post by Gman on Mar 17, 2010 15:31:48 GMT -4
Lala, how do you compare the talent in the first couple of rounds in this year's midget draft compared to last? I saw you said there are some pretty good individual talents in the upcoming first round but just to compare to a group of kids we've seen for a year now? Honestly...I prefer last years draft on the whole. This year there doesnt seem to be that 1 fail-safe impact forward available. Guys like Burke, Ciampini, Gamelin, Marcotte, O'Brien and Ryan all have questions about their long term potential...whether its Ciampini's skating, Gamelin's size, O'Bren skating/work ethic, Ryan's physical edge, Marcotte's attitude and Burke has fallen off in the 2nd half a bit. Id take Archambault, Beauviller, Leblanc, Bussieres, Veilleux all before any of the forwards this year to be quite honest. On D is a bit different, i think Poulin and Matheson are better than the top guys last year (Oligny/Racine/Ouellet). The depth among defensive prospects is also thin once you get out of the top 20 or so. If you compare this draft to last years, there seems to be more depth among goaltenders and more skilled type forwards, but there are a lot of smaller kids, im talking 3-4 who are barely 5'06 who are going to be drafted because of their high skill level. I guess its a good situation for Halifax...grab the top dman 1st or 2nd and than with the next 4 picks go with 3 skilled forwards and a goalie. You think a dman will be picked? If that happens, do you think a dman might be traded to make room? Even if they only keep one OA dman next year, we would still have 8 to start the season: Amyot/Dmitruk Hannay Gillard Clarke Abeltshauser Lewis Bishop Poulin/Matheson
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Post by Murph on Mar 17, 2010 17:53:35 GMT -4
Wow, all of a sudden Duffy is expendable? Wouldn't have anything to do with him getting one shift in the 3rd on Sunday would it? Or the fact that he only had 11 goals as a sophmore? Seems he's not quite living up to his billing, or fell out of favor with the PEI brass. i wouldn't trade him yet unless a team was overpaying, which based on his stats would be hard to imagine them doing, but yeah if the right offer comes along anybody is expendable Overpaying for an 18 year old who's going backwards isn't exactly a huge price. A high 2nd round pick would be over paying based on the season Duffy just had.
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Post by lalalaprise on Mar 17, 2010 18:58:23 GMT -4
Honestly...I prefer last years draft on the whole. This year there doesnt seem to be that 1 fail-safe impact forward available. Guys like Burke, Ciampini, Gamelin, Marcotte, O'Brien and Ryan all have questions about their long term potential...whether its Ciampini's skating, Gamelin's size, O'Bren skating/work ethic, Ryan's physical edge, Marcotte's attitude and Burke has fallen off in the 2nd half a bit. Id take Archambault, Beauviller, Leblanc, Bussieres, Veilleux all before any of the forwards this year to be quite honest. On D is a bit different, i think Poulin and Matheson are better than the top guys last year (Oligny/Racine/Ouellet). The depth among defensive prospects is also thin once you get out of the top 20 or so. If you compare this draft to last years, there seems to be more depth among goaltenders and more skilled type forwards, but there are a lot of smaller kids, im talking 3-4 who are barely 5'06 who are going to be drafted because of their high skill level. I guess its a good situation for Halifax...grab the top dman 1st or 2nd and than with the next 4 picks go with 3 skilled forwards and a goalie. You think a dman will be picked? If that happens, do you think a dman might be traded to make room? Even if they only keep one OA dman next year, we would still have 8 to start the season: Amyot/Dmitruk Hannay Gillard Clarke Abeltshauser Lewis Bishop Poulin/Matheson From what ive seen...the top 2 players are dmen...and Halifax will be picking in the top 2...so they may trade down... Also if Poulin or Matheson were drafted they would already be better than Hannay, Gillard, Lewis and Bishop
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Post by howitzer on Mar 17, 2010 19:23:29 GMT -4
Lala, how do you compare the talent in the first couple of rounds in this year's midget draft compared to last? I saw you said there are some pretty good individual talents in the upcoming first round but just to compare to a group of kids we've seen for a year now? Honestly...I prefer last years draft on the whole. This year there doesnt seem to be that 1 fail-safe impact forward available. Guys like Burke, Ciampini, Gamelin, Marcotte, O'Brien and Ryan all have questions about their long term potential...whether its Ciampini's skating, Gamelin's size, O'Bren skating/work ethic, Ryan's physical edge, Marcotte's attitude and Burke has fallen off in the 2nd half a bit. Id take Archambault, Beauviller, Leblanc, Bussieres, Veilleux all before any of the forwards this year to be quite honest. On D is a bit different, i think Poulin and Matheson are better than the top guys last year (Oligny/Racine/Ouellet). The depth among defensive prospects is also thin once you get out of the top 20 or so. If you compare this draft to last years, there seems to be more depth among goaltenders and more skilled type forwards, but there are a lot of smaller kids, im talking 3-4 who are barely 5'06 who are going to be drafted because of their high skill level. I guess its a good situation for Halifax...grab the top dman 1st or 2nd and than with the next 4 picks go with 3 skilled forwards and a goalie. Thats wierd. Wasn't last years draft considered one of the least deepest drafts in years?? And hasn't this years draft been talked about for the last 2 seasons as one of the best in the last 3-4-5 years?? I always assumed we'd, for sure, take a forward with our top pick this year, but the more I think about it, the more I agree, just take the best player. We have lots of depth on defence, but who cares. If we can add a Poulin, or whoever, then do it and figure out the numbers afterwards. The only drawback to defencemen, is it's a hard position to learn and so they tend to take longer to develop and therefore will take longer to have an impact on the team. However, if Poulin is far and away the most talented payer, then lets take him. Also interesting little article in the Metro today on Garrett Clarke, for those who may not have seen it. In a nutshell its basically Cam saying that they have to make a decision on him in the offseason. Either have confidence in him to play within himself and for the team, or decide he isnt worth the headaches and cut bait (those are my words btw). If we take a defencemen with our pick, let the speculation begin lol.
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Post by Score on Mar 17, 2010 19:37:32 GMT -4
You think a dman will be picked? If that happens, do you think a dman might be traded to make room? Even if they only keep one OA dman next year, we would still have 8 to start the season: Amyot/Dmitruk Hannay Gillard Clarke Abeltshauser Lewis Bishop Poulin/Matheson From what ive seen...the top 2 players are dmen...and Halifax will be picking in the top 2...so they may trade down... Also if Poulin or Matheson were drafted they would already be better than Hannay, Gillard, Lewis and Bishop How good is/will Bishop actually become do you feel?
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Post by lalalaprise on Mar 17, 2010 19:57:45 GMT -4
Honestly...I prefer last years draft on the whole. This year there doesnt seem to be that 1 fail-safe impact forward available. Guys like Burke, Ciampini, Gamelin, Marcotte, O'Brien and Ryan all have questions about their long term potential...whether its Ciampini's skating, Gamelin's size, O'Bren skating/work ethic, Ryan's physical edge, Marcotte's attitude and Burke has fallen off in the 2nd half a bit. Id take Archambault, Beauviller, Leblanc, Bussieres, Veilleux all before any of the forwards this year to be quite honest. On D is a bit different, i think Poulin and Matheson are better than the top guys last year (Oligny/Racine/Ouellet). The depth among defensive prospects is also thin once you get out of the top 20 or so. If you compare this draft to last years, there seems to be more depth among goaltenders and more skilled type forwards, but there are a lot of smaller kids, im talking 3-4 who are barely 5'06 who are going to be drafted because of their high skill level. I guess its a good situation for Halifax...grab the top dman 1st or 2nd and than with the next 4 picks go with 3 skilled forwards and a goalie. Thats wierd. Wasn't last years draft considered one of the least deepest drafts in years?? And hasn't this years draft been talked about for the last 2 seasons as one of the best in the last 3-4-5 years?? I always assumed we'd, for sure, take a forward with our top pick this year, but the more I think about it, the more I agree, just take the best player. We have lots of depth on defence, but who cares. If we can add a Poulin, or whoever, then do it and figure out the numbers afterwards. The only drawback to defencemen, is it's a hard position to learn and so they tend to take longer to develop and therefore will take longer to have an impact on the team. However, if Poulin is far and away the most talented payer, then lets take him. Also interesting little article in the Metro today on Garrett Clarke, for those who may not have seen it. In a nutshell its basically Cam saying that they have to make a decision on him in the offseason. Either have confidence in him to play within himself and for the team, or decide he isnt worth the headaches and cut bait (those are my words btw). If we take a defencemen with our pick, let the speculation begin lol. I remember back in September people were saying the 94's were really deep but as the year has gone on, im not seeing that to be the case. If anything they are weaker than average, but it seems like every draft for the last 5-6 years people have been saying its been weak... But the strength of the draft has little bearing...all 18 teams are selecting from the same pool of talent, so if its weak, than everyone is on the same playing field so to speak. Like I said though, im not sure who Halifax is high on, maybe Halifax's scouts are really high in Ciampini and they would take him 1st overall...who knows...but in my opinion the 2 dmen are the top 2, as of now. Matheson is playing up the NCAA route though and Poulin has some injury issues.
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Post by bois on Mar 18, 2010 8:43:59 GMT -4
i wouldn't trade him yet unless a team was overpaying, which based on his stats would be hard to imagine them doing, but yeah if the right offer comes along anybody is expendable Overpaying for an 18 year old who's going backwards isn't exactly a huge price. A high 2nd round pick would be over paying based on the season Duffy just had. which is why I wouldn't trade him yet
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Post by qmaniac on Mar 31, 2010 20:02:20 GMT -4
Any idea what time the coin flip is tomorrow?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2010 22:37:22 GMT -4
Any idea what time the coin flip is tomorrow? 1pm I thinks...
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Post by crash on Apr 1, 2010 6:55:19 GMT -4
Any idea what time the coin flip is tomorrow? 1pm I thinks... Moose twitter site indicates it will be made this morning.
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Post by Fred The Moose on Apr 1, 2010 7:21:52 GMT -4
What Ever the time we will win the coin flip and may even trade it off in June along with Clarke ...To PEI for two of their 1st round picks and Duffy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2010 8:21:31 GMT -4
What Ever the time we will win the coin flip and may even trade it off in June along with Clarke ...To PEI for two of their 1st round picks and Duffy I thought you didnt want Duffy Fred??
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