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Post by offside on Jun 30, 2010 20:35:18 GMT -4
5' 11" 182 was at 16 and never updated on the Q site I think the Lions had him as 6'01 195 last year if I remember correctly
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2010 20:38:11 GMT -4
To be quite honest there is a good argument that says you don't want too many draft picks as kids may get stuck where they don't get enough ice time to develop. I don't consider us there yet as it would take next year's draft, where I assume we would draft mostly 16 year olds who aside from the top picks could be sent down to play top minutes in midget, plus the 2012 draft which is where we could conceivably get to that point. Obviously at some point you want your team to go for it but I really think that we need 1, but probably 2 more drafts before we could do it and not set us too far back the season after. Oh ya, you cant stockpile picks forever. But often times teams want players not just picks in trades, so whats the harm in using the picks you have, even if down the road you know there stands a good chance you might trade that player. Picking players with those picks worked well for Moncton last year- Bussieres, Donnelly from the 2009 draft and Bissonette, Domingue and Brown from drafts before that. All those players were traded for key performers on Moncton's championship this year and Moncton still has some players left to kickstart the rebuilding process. I would like Halifax to follow that model. |
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Post by lalalaprise on Jun 30, 2010 20:40:48 GMT -4
5' 11" 182 was at 16 and never updated on the Q site I think the Lions had him as 6'01 195 last year if I remember correctly He was 5'11 180 all season with the Subways at 17.... According to Rinknet he was weighed and measured in January 2009 and he was 5'11 179..that was when Bathurst called him up during his last year with Dartmouth. Every kid playing in the Q gets weighed/measured by NHL Central Scouting. |
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Post by howitzer on Jun 30, 2010 20:48:55 GMT -4
Oh ya, you cant stockpile picks forever. But often times teams want players not just picks in trades, so whats the harm in using the picks you have, even if down the road you know there stands a good chance you might trade that player. Picking players with those picks worked well for Moncton last year- Bussieres, Donnelly from the 2009 draft and Bissonette, Domingue and Brown from drafts before that. All those players were traded for key performers on Moncton's championship this year and Moncton still has some players left to kickstart the rebuilding process. I would like Halifax to follow that model. Exactly. In using the picks you will have a known commodity to trade as opposed to just a pick which is an unkown commodity. The risk I suppose in that is if you don't have a good scouting staff you wont draft good players, therefore making them worthless in trades. But if you have a good scouting staff, then you can make good selections, and then peddle those players off in trades to acquire proven veteran talent. Moncton is a good example of that too. I highly doubt they intended in having all the picks they had in the '08 and '09 drafts playing for their team. Sure they drafted some to be a part of the team, but they also had an eye on the future, knowing some of the kids would be trade bait. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2010 21:21:33 GMT -4
Picking players with those picks worked well for Moncton last year- Bussieres, Donnelly from the 2009 draft and Bissonette, Domingue and Brown from drafts before that. All those players were traded for key performers on Moncton's championship this year and Moncton still has some players left to kickstart the rebuilding process. I would like Halifax to follow that model. Exactly. In using the picks you will have a known commodity to trade as opposed to just a pick which is an unkown commodity. The risk I suppose in that is if you don't have a good scouting staff you wont draft good players, therefore making them worthless in trades. But if you have a good scouting staff, then you can make good selections, and then peddle those players off in trades to acquire proven veteran talent. Moncton is a good example of that too. I highly doubt they intended in having all the picks they had in the '08 and '09 drafts playing for their team. Sure they drafted some to be a part of the team, but they also had an eye on the future, knowing some of the kids would be trade bait. If Bety isn't on the team and there is an overage spot available and guys like Costello, MacGuigan and Wiggington are all cut relatively quickly then that tells you that our scouting department hit the motherload in this year's draft as you would see even late rounders like Davis and Souligny making the team this year without being affiliated. As much as I am looking forward to seeing the skill from Ciampini, Frk (god I love that name!) and Ashley I am looking forward to the mayhem that Davis is going to bring!! I haven't seen him play but he sounds interesting!! |
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Post by canbeer on Jun 30, 2010 22:16:05 GMT -4
Exactly. In using the picks you will have a known commodity to trade as opposed to just a pick which is an unkown commodity. The risk I suppose in that is if you don't have a good scouting staff you wont draft good players, therefore making them worthless in trades. But if you have a good scouting staff, then you can make good selections, and then peddle those players off in trades to acquire proven veteran talent. Moncton is a good example of that too. I highly doubt they intended in having all the picks they had in the '08 and '09 drafts playing for their team. Sure they drafted some to be a part of the team, but they also had an eye on the future, knowing some of the kids would be trade bait. If Bety isn't on the team and there is an overage spot available and guys like Costello, MacGuigan and Wiggington are all cut relatively quickly then that tells you that our scouting department hit the motherload in this year's draft as you would see even late rounders like Davis and Souligny making the team this year without being affiliated. As much as I am looking forward to seeing the skill from Ciampini, Frk (god I love that name!) and Ashley I am looking forward to the mayhem that Davis is going to bring!! I haven't seen him play but he sounds interesting!! Yeah the skill can take time to develop or at least produce and bring results. But the grit, physicality and toughness should be a fairly strong point next year. You take the hard working team from last year and add some more toughness and grit, this team probably won't be in the top half but they won't be fun to play against. On D you'll have Sawyer a year older, Clarke is no fun to play against and Lewis brings some good toughness as well. The D has tons of grit. I'm hoping that's an area that improves up front and with a hard working, physical first line in potentially Grant, Randell and Frk hopefully they get the other guys fired up. |
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Post by canbeer on Jun 30, 2010 22:31:25 GMT -4
Yeah you can't keep adding picks and young players forever... Moncton was getting close to the limit as when you start having trouble spots for 16 year olds but more so 17 year old players who should be in the league you end up wasting players and assets. I mean having 7 picks in the first 5 rounds is great but potentially next year we'll lose Grant and Amyot and that's it... and we'll be able to fill the opening on D with Desmarais so we won't have the spots for a bunch of guys.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2010 22:34:47 GMT -4
If Bety isn't on the team and there is an overage spot available and guys like Costello, MacGuigan and Wiggington are all cut relatively quickly then that tells you that our scouting department hit the motherload in this year's draft as you would see even late rounders like Davis and Souligny making the team this year without being affiliated. As much as I am looking forward to seeing the skill from Ciampini, Frk (god I love that name!) and Ashley I am looking forward to the mayhem that Davis is going to bring!! I haven't seen him play but he sounds interesting!! Yeah the skill can take time to develop or at least produce and bring results. But the grit, physicality and toughness should be a fairly strong point next year. You take the hard working team from last year and add some more toughness and grit, this team probably won't be in the top half but they won't be fun to play against. On D you'll have Sawyer a year older, Clarke is no fun to play against and Lewis brings some good toughness as well. The D has tons of grit. I'm hoping that's an area that improves up front and with a hard working, physical first line in potentially Grant, Randell and Frk hopefully they get the other guys fired up. I also like that we are starting to get the old 1990s/early 2000s Mooseheads culture back in so the young skilled players will be part of that. |
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Post by eastcoastfan on Jul 1, 2010 12:47:41 GMT -4
Was talking with somebody from Bedford this morning who informed me that Peter has had surgery on his hip and that he wouldn't likely be on the ice before the start of the season, so if there is going to be a goalie trade it could only be Delmas and we need to have Corbeil and Terenzio to start the season. Per John Moore's Twitter, Delmas hip surgery was a success and he will have a six week recovery which should have him ready for training camp. |
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Post by sharrow on Jul 1, 2010 16:17:48 GMT -4
With John's misinformation lately I'm inclined to believe the Bedford person on this one.
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Post by howitzer on Jul 1, 2010 16:43:24 GMT -4
With John's misinformation lately I'm inclined to believe the Bedford person on this one. Ya, whoever John has as his "insiders", he needs to get rid of them. He's right on absolutely nothing. He had us trading up to #1 in the draft to get Matheson about 10mins before the draft started and none of it was true. He had us drafting a Dane, Norwegian or a Finn in the Euro draft when everyone else knew we were taking Frk, or at the very least, taking a Czech. And even throughout the course of the season he comes out with some odd nuggets of information that usually never turn out to be accurate either. I love what he does for the team, he's a great play-by-play guy, but he should just stick with what he knows haha. Drop trying to be an insider, cause it aint workin. |
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