Qfan69
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Post by Qfan69 on Jul 12, 2010 7:06:02 GMT -4
Well now that the NHL free agent stuff has died down and Lebron, Bosh and Wade are on the same team there's nothing to really get excited for beside training camp. So I thought we should talk about what and who we expect to do what on this team. After all the drafts everyone got so hyped up for this up coming season. But I have to ask why? This Frk kid sounds like he could be fun to watch but realistically no one else on this team has shown they are a big threat on offense. So why do we all feel this season is going to be so good?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 7:20:42 GMT -4
Most Mooseheads posters are saying midpack at best so I don't know where you are getting where people are saying it is going to be a great season. I think you may be getting fan's excitement over seeing a talented young crew start to gel together this year mixed up with high expectations for this group of young kids.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Jul 12, 2010 8:11:04 GMT -4
Most Mooseheads posters are saying midpack at best so I don't know where you are getting where people are saying it is going to be a great season. I think you may be getting fan's excitement over seeing a talented young crew start to gel together this year mixed up with high expectations for this group of young kids. Yes everyone is excited, but not because we are a contender. I am more excited about the future - next year, the year after etc. I am excited that Cam seems to be putting alot of effort into building through the draft, stockpiling young talent. I like the young talent he`s brought in, and look forward to seeing them grow together. We lost a lot of games last year in the third period, alot of close games, with a very young, inexperienced defense at times. We will miss Knotek for sure, however the depth wont be all grinders this time, it will be guys like Ashley and Frk and Ryan. If we can move a goalie and pick up a quality D, we will be in good shape. Midpack at best is probably right, but it will be a fun team to watch if these young guys are good enough to make an impact most nights.
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Post by Gman on Jul 12, 2010 8:23:22 GMT -4
Most Mooseheads posters are saying midpack at best so I don't know where you are getting where people are saying it is going to be a great season. I think you may be getting fan's excitement over seeing a talented young crew start to gel together this year mixed up with high expectations for this group of young kids. Yes everyone is excited, but not because we are a contender. I am more excited about the future - next year, the year after etc. I am excited that Cam seems to be putting alot of effort into building through the draft, stockpiling young talent. I like the young talent he`s brought in, and look forward to seeing them grow together. We lost a lot of games last year in the third period, alot of close games, with a very young, inexperienced defense at times. We will miss Knotek for sure, however the depth wont be all grinders this time, it will be guys like Ashley and Frk and Ryan. If we can move a goalie and pick up a quality D, we will be in good shape. Midpack at best is probably right, but it will be a fun team to watch if these young guys are good enough to make an impact most nights. Quality D? I'd say our D this year is pretty strong if you consider the experience they got last year. Amyot (tons of experience, and improved over the year last year) Clarke (we know what he brings, bad penalties, but elite skill) Albetshauser (NHL drafted) Gillard (very steady puck mover) Hannay (NHL drafted) Lewis (outstanding player in MAAA last year) Bishop (wildcard- has offense, but lacking hockey sense) That is pretty damn good IMO. I don't see why this group along with Delmas or Corbeil can't keep the team in games when the offense struggles a bit. I think when you factor in that the East division will be about 3 times weaker than last year (Bathurst is the favorite, and they are no SJ, Moncton or CB from last year) instead of getting manhandled 16 times by Moncton and CB, we will be winning a lot of those games, and they should compete with PEI and SJ. This year will be much much different, even though when the dust settles, mid pack is probably a best case senario.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Jul 12, 2010 9:01:33 GMT -4
Yes everyone is excited, but not because we are a contender. I am more excited about the future - next year, the year after etc. I am excited that Cam seems to be putting alot of effort into building through the draft, stockpiling young talent. I like the young talent he`s brought in, and look forward to seeing them grow together. We lost a lot of games last year in the third period, alot of close games, with a very young, inexperienced defense at times. We will miss Knotek for sure, however the depth wont be all grinders this time, it will be guys like Ashley and Frk and Ryan. If we can move a goalie and pick up a quality D, we will be in good shape. Midpack at best is probably right, but it will be a fun team to watch if these young guys are good enough to make an impact most nights. Quality D? I'd say our D this year is pretty strong if you consider the experience they got last year. Amyot (tons of experience, and improved over the year last year) Clarke (we know what he brings, bad penalties, but elite skill) Albetshauser (NHL drafted) Gillard (very steady puck mover) Hannay (NHL drafted) Lewis (outstanding player in MAAA last year) Bishop (wildcard- has offense, but lacking hockey sense) That is pretty damn good IMO. I don't see why this group along with Delmas or Corbeil can't keep the team in games when the offense struggles a bit. I think when you factor in that the East division will be about 3 times weaker than last year (Bathurst is the favorite, and they are no SJ, Moncton or CB from last year) instead of getting manhandled 16 times by Moncton and CB, we will be winning a lot of those games, and they should compete with PEI and SJ. This year will be much much different, even though when the dust settles, mid pack is probably a best case senario. True the D has impressive depth, which when combined with the new depth at forward coming up, is what makes the team pretty exciting. I guess I am still considering it to be a team with alot of potential on D but no sure thing with some of those guys...yet anyway. I was just thinking that getting another proven quality D-man would take out some of those questionmarks (including Clarke, who`s role on this team is still in question). I dont really want a proven scorer because I want guys like Gelinas, Andrews, Desjardins and all the new guys to get good icetime.
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Post by sharrow on Jul 12, 2010 10:03:23 GMT -4
I would like to think that Frk & Ashley would be able to pitch in right away but the real expectations should come from the returnees like Desjardins, Gelinas and Andrews with the Vets like Randell & Grant providing firepower and leadership on the offensive side, defensively Corbeil will have to prove he is the man who should expect lots of help from the D-men. Based on the realistic expectations a mid pack finish would be just great and together with an exciting team it should be a better atmosphere at the Metro Centre. G0-MOOSE-GO
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Post by maddie on Jul 12, 2010 10:10:40 GMT -4
Holy Cow !! I can tell you about one expectation you will see at camp and it is Sawyer Hannay has gone from a boy to a man. Just saw a pic of him at the Canucks camp and has he filled out, his upper body is huge.
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Post by howitzer on Jul 12, 2010 10:55:20 GMT -4
Midpack is where I see this team as well. But really the standings are not what I'll be watching. I wouldn't care if we ended up better then midpack and I wouldn't be disapointed if we finished a little below midpack (obviously anything close to last place is unacceptable, but the lower half of the league wouldn't shock me). The excitement and anticipation stems from not where the team is now, but where it's potentially headed, and watching all the young players we have develop, and some develop into impact, star players that will give this franchise another opportunity to win a championship.
IMO years like the one we're about to have are the funniest years. The team is still in "re-build" mode, so expectations are not high. They're higher then they have been the last two years, but overall people won't be going to the rink expecting this team to win every night. But we will be an improved team, and everyone is looking forward to all the young players we finally have on our roster. And with the modest expectations, fans will just go to the rink and enjoy watching that young talent. On most nights, no matter win or lose, people will probably walk away satisfied that the team is heading in the right direction.
The seasons where you know for sure you will suck are tough, and seasons where the team is expected to win and simply steamroll every opponent, without exception, and when they don't people say we suck, are seasons that take a lot out of you. But this year is in between that cycle, so it should make for an enjoyable year.
For me personally, with the new guys we'll have on the team, I'm most looking forward to see Darcy Ashley play. I've yet to see him play, but from all indications he is pure skill. Looking forward to see what the kid is all about.
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Post by Gman on Jul 12, 2010 11:10:45 GMT -4
I would like to think that Frk & Ashley would be able to pitch in right away but the real expectations should come from the returnees like Desjardins, Gelinas and Andrews with the Vets like Randell & Grant providing firepower and leadership on the offensive side, defensively Corbeil will have to prove he is the man who should expect lots of help from the D-men. Based on the realistic expectations a mid pack finish would be just great and together with an exciting team it should be a better atmosphere at the Metro Centre. G0-MOOSE-GO I think Halifax (Smith and Russell, & staff) have done a great job building excitement over this team again, and I think it will show in the attendance figures this year. The funny thing is, they didn't do anything special- they just did what should have been done all along.... draft quality players with high picks. It's amazing what optimism comes by not relying on journeymen and grinders.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 12, 2010 12:27:51 GMT -4
I would like to think that Frk & Ashley would be able to pitch in right away but the real expectations should come from the returnees like Desjardins, Gelinas and Andrews with the Vets like Randell & Grant providing firepower and leadership on the offensive side, defensively Corbeil will have to prove he is the man who should expect lots of help from the D-men. Based on the realistic expectations a mid pack finish would be just great and together with an exciting team it should be a better atmosphere at the Metro Centre. G0-MOOSE-GO I think Halifax (Smith and Russell, & staff) have done a great job building excitement over this team again, and I think it will show in the attendance figures this year. The funny thing is, they didn't do anything special- they just did what should have been done all along.... draft quality players with high picks. It's amazing what optimism comes by not relying on journeymen and grinders. I think excitement is in the die hard fanbase. I think John Q Public just reacts to last year's product as well as the year before. I think for that reason attendance will probably drop again this year. If the team overachieves this year it should build momentum at the end of the year for 2011-2012. Fan support is usually a bit behind the on ice product, especially in terms of season tickets.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 12:32:04 GMT -4
I think Halifax (Smith and Russell, & staff) have done a great job building excitement over this team again, and I think it will show in the attendance figures this year. The funny thing is, they didn't do anything special- they just did what should have been done all along.... draft quality players with high picks. It's amazing what optimism comes by not relying on journeymen and grinders. I think excitement is in the die hard fanbase. I think John Q Public just reacts to last year's product as well as the year before. I think for that reason attendance will probably drop again this year. If the team overachieves this year it should build momentum at the end of the year for 2011-2012. Fan support is usually a bit behind the on ice product, especially in terms of season tickets. Last year's attendance was basically the die hard supporters and knowledgeable hockey fans know the team will be better than last year so I don't see a dip in attendance; it may take a month for the somewhat miffed fans to start coming back and by Xmas is when the front runner fans will start coming back.
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Qfan69
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Post by Qfan69 on Jul 12, 2010 13:01:36 GMT -4
A few people said some things I fully agree with but one thing that keeps being said is mid pac. The only reason they could be mid pac is the league is a weeker league then last year which it is. Mid pac is 7th, 8th, 9th or 10th spot. Yes. The Dee is one year older should be better but we lost our best player and really a guy like Grant hasn't really proved anything yet to say he can do anything with out Knotek there to pick him up. I think 13th or 12th place is where they'll end up.
Now I should have been a little more clearer on what I wanted to say. This team will be fun to watch these kids grow. But this year will still be a lot of games that will slip away.
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Post by fireball on Jul 12, 2010 13:16:10 GMT -4
Yeah Price you are wishing maybe the Moosehead attendance drops to what the average Pussycat numbers are ! Can't see that happening .
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Post by hfxfan09 on Jul 12, 2010 13:29:48 GMT -4
Midpack we will be improved over the last 2 seasons; I'm looking forward to going to the rink not that I wasn't the last few seasons it was just a bit harder to walk away losing a lot but that is all part of rebuilding; again last year was a bit better but the last 2 years have been hard to watch with the rebuilding and all many nights last year we were in the game only down a goal or two. I can see us holding leads and getting back in to the game better as mentioned the team is a year older and a bit more experienced now...Go Moose Go only 6 weeks till training camp!
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Post by hfxfan on Jul 12, 2010 13:37:25 GMT -4
I think Halifax (Smith and Russell, & staff) have done a great job building excitement over this team again, and I think it will show in the attendance figures this year. The funny thing is, they didn't do anything special- they just did what should have been done all along.... draft quality players with high picks. It's amazing what optimism comes by not relying on journeymen and grinders. I think excitement is in the die hard fanbase. I think John Q Public just reacts to last year's product as well as the year before. I think for that reason attendance will probably drop again this year. If the team overachieves this year it should build momentum at the end of the year for 2011-2012. Fan support is usually a bit behind the on ice product, especially in terms of season tickets. I was in the Mooseheads office last week to pay off my season tickets. I was told by the girl who works there that they were getting a lot of complaints from former season ticket holders who did not renew last year, but who now wanted their former seats back but they couldn't get them because hey were sold to new season ticker holders. Tells me it's likely that season tickets could be up substantially.
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