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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Mar 28, 2014 13:24:51 GMT -4
You have been bringing the weak division up every second post like nobody realizes it. I don`t know one person on this board who has suggested the division was not weak. Everyone going back to last summer talked about how awful the division looked. It has been a common theme to posts all year. The person I quoted obviously didn't realize it. Why not just give your point of view on the topic instead of trying to turn it into crap? so are you saying Gatineau's win is confirmation, or are you just trying to somehow take a shot at me? I think Gatineau got healthy and are playing well, and ran into a CB team that was sputtering down the stretch with some really bad losses along the way. I do fear them as a Moose fan - they won`t be an easy series win that is for sure the way they are playing. The weak division thing is well documented. Some bad teams probably have a few more wins than they should have, and yes even Halifax benefited with some freebie wins along the way. But there were examples of our weak teams beating or at least playing other top teams tough too. Moncton have beat BLB twice, and with a better consistent effort could have won the series even. Say what you want about BLB, they were 2nd overall most of the year playing in a tough division. Despite the moose finishing 2nd overall and being defending champs, most people agree there are a handful of teams that can win the league because people are accounting for the fact that Halifax may not be the 2nd best but rather the 5th or 6th best etc. If healthy, I think we are a top 3 contender regardless of our weak division.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 28, 2014 14:18:15 GMT -4
You have been bringing the weak division up every second post like nobody realizes it. I don`t know one person on this board who has suggested the division was not weak. Everyone going back to last summer talked about how awful the division looked. It has been a common theme to posts all year. And the Moose dominated the division like they should have. It would be a different story if we struggled against teams in the division. You did against Moncton. What was your record vs CB ?
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Post by Porkchop on Mar 28, 2014 14:46:15 GMT -4
The person I quoted obviously didn't realize it. Why not just give your point of view on the topic instead of trying to turn it into crap? so are you saying Gatineau's win is confirmation, or are you just trying to somehow take a shot at me? I think Gatineau got healthy and are playing well, and ran into a CB team that was sputtering down the stretch with some really bad losses along the way. I do fear them as a Moose fan - they won`t be an easy series win that is for sure the way they are playing. The weak division thing is well documented. Some bad teams probably have a few more wins than they should have, and yes even Halifax benefited with some freebie wins along the way. But there were examples of our weak teams beating or at least playing other top teams tough too. Moncton have beat BLB twice, and with a better consistent effort could have won the series even. Say what you want about BLB, they were 2nd overall most of the year playing in a tough division. Despite the moose finishing 2nd overall and being defending champs, most people agree there are a handful of teams that can win the league because people are accounting for the fact that Halifax may not be the 2nd best but rather the 5th or 6th best etc. If healthy, I think we are a top 3 contender regardless of our weak division. BLB really struggled down the stretch for some reason, after a pretty solid season......looks like they are just continuing on with that.
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Post by Hot Water on Mar 28, 2014 15:00:29 GMT -4
Why is everyone so adamant about deciphering what all the division stuff means when we're about to see first hand who is better than who over the next few weeks.
Seems like a waste of time to say "Gatineau had this record in this division playing this schedule and the Mooseheads had this record playing this division... blah blah blah". You are literally about to see them play one another.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 28, 2014 15:04:20 GMT -4
Why is everyone so adamant about deciphering what all the division stuff means when we're about to see first hand who is better than who over the next few weeks. Seems like a waste of time to say "Gatineau had this record in this division playing this schedule and the Mooseheads had this record playing this division... blah blah blah". You are literally about to see them play one another. Yes ... lets not speak of it again until the expected series is over. Lets shut the boards down until then.
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Post by melly on Mar 28, 2014 15:28:53 GMT -4
Yes, we played a weak team, but we played as we should, controlling the games. Ducharme sat the stars at the right time, and gave some valuable playoff experience to the depth guys. That will help down the road. As far as CB, something went wrong there. That couldn't have been the CB team that played Halifax so tough, and actually had some impressive wins against Que teams higher in the standings. Gat shredded them and scored at will. maybe the thing that went wrong, was the fact that Gatineau played in a very tough division all season, and finally got one of the easy Maritime teams. they played in a division where 4 teams had over 40 wins....the Maritimes couldn't get 4 teams with 30 wins. This division is a lot weaker than most care to admit, and I'm wondering if this Gatineau win is confirmation of that. Was CB really that bad? Take She and Sha out of the picture and CB went 7 and 11 against the better teams in Que, including beating BC, Gat, Dru, BLB(2), Que(2). They went 4 and 5 against Halifax. That is not what you would call a 'weak' hockey club. Not a great team by any stretch, but a weak team does not win 11 games against those teams. I thought Gat would win the series, but not in that fashion. Groulx is a quality playoff coach, maybe that was more indicative then a weak division. CB was not weak enough to be shredded in 4 straight games. A coach of a 9th place team should be able to slow down the #8, a little bit, regardless of the quality of the competition they faced throughout the year.
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Post by Hot Water on Mar 28, 2014 15:52:57 GMT -4
Why is everyone so adamant about deciphering what all the division stuff means when we're about to see first hand who is better than who over the next few weeks. Seems like a waste of time to say "Gatineau had this record in this division playing this schedule and the Mooseheads had this record playing this division... blah blah blah". You are literally about to see them play one another. Yes ... lets not speak of it again until the expected series is over. Lets shut the boards down until then. Not at all what I was advocating but sure.
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Post by halspal on Mar 28, 2014 16:33:30 GMT -4
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Post by Porkchop on Mar 28, 2014 20:34:56 GMT -4
maybe the thing that went wrong, was the fact that Gatineau played in a very tough division all season, and finally got one of the easy Maritime teams. they played in a division where 4 teams had over 40 wins....the Maritimes couldn't get 4 teams with 30 wins. This division is a lot weaker than most care to admit, and I'm wondering if this Gatineau win is confirmation of that. Was CB really that bad? Take She and Sha out of the picture and CB went 7 and 11 against the better teams in Que, including beating BC, Gat, Dru, BLB(2), Que(2). They went 4 and 5 against Halifax. That is not what you would call a 'weak' hockey club. Not a great team by any stretch, but a weak team does not win 11 games against those teams. I thought Gat would win the series, but not in that fashion. Groulx is a quality playoff coach, maybe that was more indicative then a weak division. CB was not weak enough to be shredded in 4 straight games. A coach of a 9th place team should be able to slow down the #8, a little bit, regardless of the quality of the competition they faced throughout the year. I picked Gatineau in 5, so 4 is not really that surprising. they are a team that always seems to give fits in the playoffs, and were used to hard competition for the entire season. I guess they were more ready than CB was.
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Post by mooseinfo on Mar 28, 2014 23:13:59 GMT -4
Teams adding at the Xmas trade period beating teams that subtracted, Amazing!
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Post by nibs on Mar 29, 2014 10:32:17 GMT -4
Sweet bejeezus ... This is the same rhetoric from the same naysayers as last year; most all of whom were not Mooseheads fans. How bad we must have been, taking 17 wins to the Presidents Cup, and then pretty much whalloping anything that got in our way at the Memorial Cup.
Is there any Halifax fans that expect the same onslaught this year? No. Are there Halifax fans that think we can win the Presidents Cup? Of course, and I'm one of them.
In the same breath, accept the fact, Porky, that Halifax fans are generally also saying the stars have to align. We have injuries with key players, there is better parity with the top four, and what affects our club could also affect other clubs. It's called junior hockey.
So please, man, stop stirring the shit pot and go play golf (or tobogganning) so we can enjoy another run without your most revered insight and analyses - it's worn out and tiring.
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Post by Porkchop on Mar 29, 2014 10:52:53 GMT -4
Sweet bejeezus ... This is the same rhetoric from the same naysayers as last year; most all of whom were not Mooseheads fans. How bad we must have been, taking 17 wins to the Presidents Cup, and then pretty much whalloping anything that got in our way at the Memorial Cup. Is there any Halifax fans that expect the same onslaught this year? No. Are there Halifax fans that think we can win the Presidents Cup? Of course, and I'm one of them. In the same breath, accept the fact, Porky, that Halifax fans are generally also saying the stars have to align. We have injuries with key players, there is better parity with the top four, and what affects our club could also affect other clubs. It's called junior hockey. So please, man, stop stirring the shit pot and go play golf (or tobogganning) so we can enjoy another run without your most revered insight and analyses - it's worn out and tiring. I know this is very difficult to do for you, but you need to accept the fact that I'm not stirring the pot, and just trying to have a discussion. You should really learn to follow along instead of trying to stir the pot yourself as you are doing here. What is worn out and tiring is that some of you can't follow a conversation without resorting to some personal agenda against me. I've said nothing in this thread that should warrant this response. If you don't want to be part of the discussion, then get the frig off the website....I am a member here the same as you are, and my rights are the same, so move on with your crap. I said Gatineau/Halifax would be a good series, that would probably be a long one and tough to call....I also said Halifax would probably take it with star forwards and a better backend......is there something about that you don't agree with?
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Post by nibs on Mar 29, 2014 11:53:28 GMT -4
You should really learn to follow along instead of trying to stir the pot yourself as you are doing here. Oh I am following: Recall? Or, how many times have you posted the worn out debate about this Division being the weaker? WE KNOW THAT ALREADY, GET OVER IT and stop harping! Personally, I think Halifax will win in six. Not because we have thrashed our way through a weak division but, as said I would expect a long series, 6 or 7 games. I think I would give the edge to the Mooseheads. You have better goaltending, the experience of last season, the best junior player in the world, and home ice advantage. But it will not be easy. Gatineau have a lot of firepower and an under-rated defense. We are tough to get a lot of scoring chances against. Sometimes we take too many dumb penalties, and our goaltending and overall play has been inconsistent this season. If les Olympiques put it all together, though, they are a very good hockey team.
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Post by Porkchop on Mar 29, 2014 12:05:35 GMT -4
You should really learn to follow along instead of trying to stir the pot yourself as you are doing here. Oh I am following: Recall? Or, how many times have you posted the worn out debate about this Division being the weaker? WE KNOW THAT ALREADY, GET OVER IT and stop harping! Personally, I think Halifax will win in six. Not because we have thrashed our way through a weak division but, as said I would expect a long series, 6 or 7 games. I think I would give the edge to the Mooseheads. You have better goaltending, the experience of last season, the best junior player in the world, and home ice advantage. But it will not be easy. Gatineau have a lot of firepower and an under-rated defense. We are tough to get a lot of scoring chances against. Sometimes we take too many dumb penalties, and our goaltending and overall play has been inconsistent this season. If les Olympiques put it all together, though, they are a very good hockey team. that is in response to someone thinking the Gatineau series would be a quick one for you.....what is wrong with that....adding your thought on the possible series would make the thread a lot better than digging through 15 of my posts to find something to gripe about. What you are doing here is turning this into a useless argument between you and me, that didn't have to happen.
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Post by L'il Boy on Mar 29, 2014 12:30:08 GMT -4
There is a good chance our clubs will be playing in round two. I hope so! Should be a great series with excellent, fast hockey. Congrats on an easy victory, just like we had over the Screaming Eagles. Things are going to get a lot tougher now. What more could we ask for than playoff hockey? Follow the rules on this board, and you'll be fine. 1) Starting GDT is a no-no, and could be cause for expulsion, or at the very least, a 35 point warning, not to mention the wrath of the posters on this board; 2) No negative talk allowed about any Moose player, members of management, their families (including third cousins twice removed), members of this particular board, or anyone that lives in the province of Nova Scotia, unless said person is a member of the opposing team; 3) No gloating, bragging, or talking about how much better your team is, should they win the series; and, last, but not least; 4) Any member of this board may, without provocation or just cause, chastise, humiliate, or ask for you to be banned from the board for no good reason.
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