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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 10, 2014 11:22:56 GMT -4
I mean their 20 regulars, not 20 year olds... Legare - Farrell - Lazarev Svechnikov - Bishop - Pelletier Dubois - Simard - Tower Brunelle - Martineau - Gray Leveille - MacIntyre Lalonde - Deschamps Bell - Nosella/Beaudin Brassard Sullivan Should look something like that if everyones healthy. I'm not pumping Moncton's tires, but I think it wouldn't be a stretch if they were ahead of CB before trades. Defense is about the same, forwards are pretty even plus Dubeau is better than Brassard. The Cats will probably add Tassi once Walcott returns to BBA after NHL camp(open OA slot) which adds on defense.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Sept 10, 2014 11:29:54 GMT -4
Legare - Farrell - Lazarev Svechnikov - Bishop - Pelletier Dubois - Simard - Tower Brunelle - Martineau - Gray Leveille - MacIntyre Lalonde - Deschamps Bell - Nosella/Beaudin Brassard Sullivan Should look something like that if everyones healthy. I'm not pumping Moncton's tires, but I think it wouldn't be a stretch if they were ahead of CB before trades. Defense is about the same, forwards are pretty even plus Dubeau is better than Brassard. The Cats will probably add Tassi once Walcott returns to BBA after NHL camp(open OA slot) which adds on defense. I think the main difference will be the third cog on Moncton's top two lines (smith/Askew). I'm assuming The Russians play together and Lalonde-Garland do. That's where I think CB have a noticable difference. And there's not really a lot between Brassard/Dubeau.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 10, 2014 11:45:51 GMT -4
I'm not pumping Moncton's tires, but I think it wouldn't be a stretch if they were ahead of CB before trades. Defense is about the same, forwards are pretty even plus Dubeau is better than Brassard. The Cats will probably add Tassi once Walcott returns to BBA after NHL camp(open OA slot) which adds on defense. I think the main difference will be the third cog on Moncton's top two lines (smith/Askew). I'm assuming The Russians play together and Lalonde-Garland do. That's where I think CB have a noticable difference. And there's not really a lot between Brassard/Dubeau. Bishop is slotted in the top 6, offensively he's no better than Askew or Smith. Hard worker but stiff hands. Dubeau had the same numbers as Brassard last year behind a porous/young defense and team overall. At certain points they had Haas(a forward who is now out of the league) and Holwell(16) playing top 4 minutes...
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Sept 10, 2014 11:51:53 GMT -4
I think the main difference will be the third cog on Moncton's top two lines (smith/Askew). I'm assuming The Russians play together and Lalonde-Garland do. That's where I think CB have a noticable difference. And there's not really a lot between Brassard/Dubeau. Bishop is slotted in the top 6, offensively he's no better than Askew or Smith. Hard worker but stiff hands. Bishop may not be the most offensive player but he has certainly been better than those two. Ideally though they bring in a top-six forward and he slides to third-line centre.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Sept 10, 2014 12:03:50 GMT -4
If Hache and Darcy are not back Moncton could very well be the top team in the Maritimes. Most of the best teams are in the other division. I respectfully disagree. Even without Hache their defense is still really solid. I feel Charles-Eric Legare and Kyle Farrell have been criminally overlooked as solid overagers, coming off 34 and 35 goal seasons respectively. The Eagles are too deep, too skilled, and too well balanced for anybody else in the Maritimes to keep up with. Too deep is the one thing I would argue that CB is most definitely not. Best top six forward group in the division on paper, but in terms of overall depth I would probably give Moncton and CTown the edge there. Let's also not forget that this is still a relatively young defence corps. The only dman they have 19 or over is Nosella and he's a third pairing guy. This is quite possibly a group that doesn't fully come into it's own until next season. Same thing for the Islanders, but they did offset that a bit by adding Weber and MacKinnon to their young group. Really for all three teams it's a bit uncertain what exactly you're going to get on defence this season.
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Post by Citris on Sept 10, 2014 12:21:56 GMT -4
Too deep is the one thing I would argue that CB is most definitely not. Best top six forward group in the division on paper, but in terms of overall depth I would probably give Moncton and CTown the edge there. Let's also not forget that this is still a relatively young defence corps. The only dman they have 19 or over is Nosella and he's a third pairing guy. This is quite possibly a group that doesn't fully come into it's own until next season. Same thing for the Islanders, but they did offset that a bit by adding Weber and MacKinnon to their young group. Really for all three teams it's a bit uncertain what exactly you're going to get on defence this season. That' fair. I like their defense but you're right in saying they're probably a year off. It's going to take some resources to upgrade because they'll need to bring in a 19 year old. Not really even sure who's out there to add. As for depth, again, you may be right. They could add to their bottom 6 for sure. I still think they're better than Moncton overall, but I think Moncton is better than a lot of people wanted to give them credit for.
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 10, 2014 12:43:01 GMT -4
This year I think the top 3 spots in the division look like basically a coin flip between Moncton, Charlottetown, and Cape Breton.
Halifax is probably a lock to finish 4th.
Then its a coin flip again for 5th and 6th between Bathurst and Saint John.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 10, 2014 12:54:51 GMT -4
CB has an outstanding top 6, but their depth beyond that is a question mark. There's upside with some guys, but as we start the season, a lot of youth and inexperience in their bottom 9. They've got more then enough assets to address it, if need be at xmas, so I don't expect it to be a season long problem. Yep the first 3 months are for the Brunelle's and Gray's to earn a 2nd half spot and the Tower's and Martineau's to prove they belong as bottom 6 players on a contender over the next 18 months but there's definitely more depth needed when looking at the roster. After the top 6 or 7 it drops off dramatically.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 10, 2014 12:58:32 GMT -4
I think the main difference will be the third cog on Moncton's top two lines (smith/Askew). I'm assuming The Russians play together and Lalonde-Garland do. That's where I think CB have a noticable difference. And there's not really a lot between Brassard/Dubeau. Bishop is slotted in the top 6, offensively he's no better than Askew or Smith. Hard worker but stiff hands. . Bishop is entering his 18yr old season. Hard to call a kid down saying he has no hands when he came into essentially nothing at 16 and ended his 17yo season on a team in transition. He's no natural sniper but with his talent he could easily be a 30 goal-70 point guy on this team over the next 2 years. Hard workers with no hands end up as bottom 6 forwards in this league. I think Bishop is much more versatile then that.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Sept 10, 2014 13:01:18 GMT -4
Bishop is slotted in the top 6, offensively he's no better than Askew or Smith. Hard worker but stiff hands. . Bishop is entering his 18yr old season. Hard to call a kid down saying he has no hands when he came into essentially nothing at 16 and ended his 17yo season on a team in transition. He's no natural sniper but with his talent he could easily be a 30 goal-70 point guy on this team over the next 2 years. Hard workers with no hands end up as bottom 6 forwards in this league. I think Bishop is much more versatile then that. I can see Bishop evolving into a Brent Andrews type player.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 10, 2014 13:04:04 GMT -4
Bishop is entering his 18yr old season. Hard to call a kid down saying he has no hands when he came into essentially nothing at 16 and ended his 17yo season on a team in transition. He's no natural sniper but with his talent he could easily be a 30 goal-70 point guy on this team over the next 2 years. Hard workers with no hands end up as bottom 6 forwards in this league. I think Bishop is much more versatile then that. I can see Bishop evolving into a Brent Andrews type player. I can see that too depending on who we target as trade targets. Andrews would have/could have put up better offensive numbers in a top 6 role but was on a team where his best role was as the best bottom 6 guy who can focus on a shutdown role. Halifax was a better team for it too.
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Post by Citris on Sept 10, 2014 13:10:07 GMT -4
I can see that too depending on who we target as trade targets. Andrews would have/could have put up better offensive numbers in a top 6 role but was on a team where his best role was as the best bottom 6 guy who can focus on a shutdown role. Halifax was a better team for it too. Yes, players like that in your bottom 6 win you championships. If you can afford to have a guy like that playing a shutdown role and on your PK, it's a luxury to have. I think Bishop could play in the top 6, but I think the Eagles would be better off if they were deep enough to have him in a shutdown role.
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Sept 10, 2014 13:16:57 GMT -4
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Post by aquilae on Sept 10, 2014 22:58:37 GMT -4
He has Drummondville ranked 1st in the West.
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Post by statsman18 on Sept 11, 2014 7:02:42 GMT -4
He has Drummondville ranked 1st in the West. That's because the west is so wide open it's unreal. Go look at the west teams and it's not hard to tell any one can really take it. That division can be a bunch of 500 teams going into the trade period and one team making a bunch of move to try and grab the 3rd seed. I can't predict the future but it wouldn't surprise me if the team that wins that Division is around the 75pts mark. Let's put it this way if Halifax was in this division they would win it.
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