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Post by Art Vandelay on Feb 12, 2015 16:46:16 GMT -4
If you think he wasn't juggling his lines, you must have been watching a different game than I was.For example, at times he had Svechnekov playing center, left wing and right wing and Jacob Smith and Colby tower were all over the place.I lost track of all the different line combinations.Even Stephen Anderson in a pre-game interview commented on how crazy the line juggling is.If you have converted and think he is a good coach, all the power to you.I think Ron Choules was the worst coach we ever had here and Dumont is nipping at his heels in second place.Just a thought, anyone know why he constantly plays 11 forwards and 7 defencemen while the norm is 12 and six. Check the game sheets and you will see what I mean. Maybe a reason for juggling his lines to give the 2 extra forwards and extra dman some ice time? I've only ever seen Svechnikov at C in the PP to take the face off so I don't know what you're talking about there. And like I said, he rotates a top 9 player in with the 4th line, that's why you see Svechnikov playing on a different wing and Smith on different lines. I don't know what else you can really expect from Dumont. What do expect from a different coach? An extra win or 2? You're just looking for something to complain about Svechnikov was 3/3 on face-offs last night according to the Q site. Not sure why people are complaining over line combos. Its been pretty consistent since the deadline. Svechnikov - Farrell - Dubois Lazarev - Hinds - Anderson Boucher - Martineau - Smith Tower - Brunelle That has been the line-up most nights. Obviously with only dressing 11 forwards the lines at times will have to be juggled. The entire chemistry thing is being overblown, you see it a lot in the NHL where coaches are most likely to pair players up and interchange a 3rd player on a line.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 12, 2015 17:12:26 GMT -4
If you think he wasn't juggling his lines, you must have been watching a different game than I was.For example, at times he had Svechnekov playing center, left wing and right wing and Jacob Smith and Colby tower were all over the place.I lost track of all the different line combinations.Even Stephen Anderson in a pre-game interview commented on how crazy the line juggling is.If you have converted and think he is a good coach, all the power to you.I think Ron Choules was the worst coach we ever had here and Dumont is nipping at his heels in second place.Just a thought, anyone know why he constantly plays 11 forwards and 7 defencemen while the norm is 12 and six. Check the game sheets and you will see what I mean. Maybe a reason for juggling his lines to give the 2 extra forwards and extra dman some ice time? I've only ever seen Svechnikov at C in the PP to take the face off so I don't know what you're talking about there. And like I said, he rotates a top 9 player in with the 4th line, that's why you see Svechnikov playing on a different wing and Smith on different lines. I don't know what else you can really expect from Dumont. What do expect from a different coach? An extra win or 2? You're just looking for something to complain about To be fair what people would be expecting from a different coach is the consistent top 8 team that the team should be.
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Post by glxss on Feb 12, 2015 17:33:18 GMT -4
I've only ever seen Svechnikov at C in the PP to take the face off so I don't know what you're talking about there. And like I said, he rotates a top 9 player in with the 4th line, that's why you see Svechnikov playing on a different wing and Smith on different lines. I don't know what else you can really expect from Dumont. What do expect from a different coach? An extra win or 2? You're just looking for something to complain about To be fair what people would be expecting from a different coach is the consistent top 8 team that the team should be. Of course they would be. I'm confident they are a top 8 or 10 team with the way they have been playing in 2015. The first half is not all on Dumont. He didn't help, but they had poison in the dressing room and bad goaltending. Dumont fixed the goaltending and dumped the poison.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Feb 12, 2015 18:04:13 GMT -4
He sure did fix the goaltending,takes the kid who was named the goaltender of the month in January with a 6-1record,1.57GA and a 9.45 Save Percentage and rewards him by sitting him on the bench.Excellent strategy. The Sullivan kid carried this team on his back and If anyone deserves a shot to be the number on guy,its him. Nothing against he Belanger kid,just that if either of them is going to be the number one guy going into the playoffs,Dumont has to give someone a chance to runwith the ball.At this point,the numbers are not even close and we will never know if either one of them can carry the load if they aren't given the chance.Do we see another goaltending fiasco coming?
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Post by glxss on Feb 12, 2015 18:38:52 GMT -4
He sure did fix the goaltending,takes the kid who was named the goaltender of the month in January with a 6-1record,1.57GA and a 9.45 Save Percentage and rewards him by sitting him on the bench.Excellent strategy. The Sullivan kid carried this team on his back and If anyone deserves a shot to be the number on guy,its him. Nothing against he Belanger kid,just that if either of them is going to be the number one guy going into the playoffs,Dumont has to give someone a chance to runwith the ball.At this point,the numbers are not even close and we will never know if either one of them can carry the load if they aren't given the chance.Do we see another goaltending fiasco coming? He was hot in January but both are mediocre #1's in my opinion, some nights they look amazing, some they don't. Belanger was just coming off a win against a top 3 team in the league so why not try him again? You're acting as if Sullivan never played the last 5 games or something. I love Sully, but to say he carried the team on his back is laughable.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Feb 12, 2015 19:23:44 GMT -4
How do we know if either is a legit number one goalie the way Dumont uses them.As far as Sullivan carrying the team, you give any team in this league a goaltender with those numbers and the coach would ride he hell out of him.By the way,Sullivan is ranked no:6 in top 20 goalies.Maybe if he cracks the top 3,Dumont will dump him like he did with Marchand (joke)
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Post by glxss on Feb 12, 2015 20:31:14 GMT -4
How do we know if either is a legit number one goalie the way Dumont uses them.As far as Sullivan carrying the team, you give any team in this league a goaltender with those numbers and the coach would ride he hell out of him.By the way,Sullivan is ranked no:6 in top 20 goalies.Maybe if he cracks the top 3,Dumont will dump him like he did with Marchand (joke) Well we know that Belanger is not a bonafide #1 by looking at his through his 3 year Q career. And we can tell that Sullivan is not a bonafide #1 from looking at his numbers before his hot streak and the fact he is a 19 year old who played 13 games before this season. If Sullivan keeps his hot streak going and rides it into the playoffs and next season if he's around, i'll call him a bonafide #1
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Post by dt281 on Feb 12, 2015 22:12:48 GMT -4
I don't know why all the bitching about the lines? They started out with 11 forwards- Brunelle left half way through the second, Boucher missed a couple shifts with a bloody nose and we tools couple penalties. Makes it hard to role the same lines. The last number of games I found the lines pretty consistent.
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Post by cb67 on Feb 13, 2015 2:33:30 GMT -4
How do you not start Belanger after the showing he had againist Rimouski ??
2 straight breakaway saves in a row plus a furry of point blank saves that won him the 2nd star who I had as arguably the first star .
If Belanger misses one of those big saves then we come out of the game pointless.
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Post by Deer on Feb 13, 2015 16:49:52 GMT -4
How do we know if either is a legit number one goalie the way Dumont uses them.As far as Sullivan carrying the team, you give any team in this league a goaltender with those numbers and the coach would ride he hell out of him.By the way,Sullivan is ranked no:6 in top 20 goalies.Maybe if he cracks the top 3,Dumont will dump him like he did with Marchand (joke) Well we know that Belanger is not a bonafide #1 by looking at his through his 3 year Q career. And we can tell that Sullivan is not a bonafide #1 from looking at his numbers before his hot streak and the fact he is a 19 year old who played 13 games before this season. If Sullivan keeps his hot streak going and rides it into the playoffs and next season if he's around, i'll call him a bonafide #1 I think there's more to Belanger than numbers. As a 17-year-old, he helped Rouyn to round 3 of the playoffs. Last year, he helped them to round 2.. upsetting Quebec (and, ironically, Francois Brassard) along the way. There are some goalies whose numbers, at first blush, look mediocre. But they make the big saves in crucial games, when you need them. Like the ones Belanger made against Rimouski. If all you looked at was numbers, Grant Fuhr wouldn't be a Hall of Fame goalie. His GAA and save % were always middle of the pack, sometimes worse, even on the Cup-winning Oilers teams.
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Post by EagleFan2009 on Feb 13, 2015 18:51:43 GMT -4
Well we know that Belanger is not a bonafide #1 by looking at his through his 3 year Q career. And we can tell that Sullivan is not a bonafide #1 from looking at his numbers before his hot streak and the fact he is a 19 year old who played 13 games before this season. If Sullivan keeps his hot streak going and rides it into the playoffs and next season if he's around, i'll call him a bonafide #1 I think there's more to Belanger than numbers. As a 17-year-old, he helped Rouyn to round 3 of the playoffs. Last year, he helped them to round 2.. upsetting Quebec (and, ironically, Francois Brassard) along the way. There are some goalies whose numbers, at first blush, look mediocre. But they make the big saves in crucial games, when you need them. Like the ones Belanger made against Rimouski. If all you looked at was numbers, Grant Fuhr wouldn't be a Hall of Fame goalie. His GAA and save % were always middle of the pack, sometimes worse, even on the Cup-winning Oilers teams. Bang on. Fleury's numbers here were not amazing. Although if you look past that, and see the saves he made, you're view on him changes. Beating rimouski shows belanger can handle the pressure, but he is a ways from a #1 goalie. Sullivan is a solid #2 as well, but if we wanna go deep next year, both of these guys shouldn't be on the roster IMO.
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Post by L'il Boy on Feb 19, 2015 10:36:55 GMT -4
How do we know if either is a legit number one goalie the way Dumont uses them.As far as Sullivan carrying the team, you give any team in this league a goaltender with those numbers and the coach would ride he hell out of him.By the way,Sullivan is ranked no:6 in top 20 goalies.Maybe if he cracks the top 3,Dumont will dump him like he did with Marchand (joke) The Eagles have cut their goals against\game by almost 2 goals since adding Gosselin and Leblanc during the trade period. Up until the end of December, Sullivan's numbers were 3.80 GAA and .881 SAV% (4.47GAA and .868SAV% in December alone). His numbers now are just as much a reflection on the trades that Dumont made, as it is his play.
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Post by EagleFan2009 on Feb 19, 2015 12:30:47 GMT -4
How do we know if either is a legit number one goalie the way Dumont uses them.As far as Sullivan carrying the team, you give any team in this league a goaltender with those numbers and the coach would ride he hell out of him.By the way,Sullivan is ranked no:6 in top 20 goalies.Maybe if he cracks the top 3,Dumont will dump him like he did with Marchand (joke) The Eagles have cut their goals against\game by almost 2 goals since adding Gosselin and Leblanc during the trade period. Up until the end of December, Sullivan's numbers were 3.80 GAA and .881 SAV% (4.47GAA and .868SAV% in December alone). His numbers now are just as much a reflection on the trades that Dumont made, as it is his play. Its not a bad thing to have two guys playing well. You can't just go by numbers. We have played the Titan 3 times I believe since Christmas. Belanger played a great game against the mooseheads last weekend. Made some huge saves. Sulli has been great too. Competition in the net is probably a huge relief in Dumont's eyes after what's went on here the past while with goalies. Until one really stands out more than the other, let them fight it out. No way both of these guys can be here next year.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Feb 19, 2015 14:50:42 GMT -4
And you feel Sullivan didn't stand out with his numbers in January? IMHO, if they were selecting the most improved player right now, Sullivan would have to be my pick.Incidentally,Sullivan won the goalie of the month award in January, so Dumont sits him 3 of the last 4 games? The game he did play,they won and he put up another game of two goals against or less.Nothing against Belanger, but I believe Sullivan has earned his shot.
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Post by catnut on Feb 19, 2015 14:57:11 GMT -4
And you feel Sullivan didn't stand out with his numbers in January? IMHO, if they were selecting the most improved player right now, Sullivan would have to be my pick.Incidentally,Sullivan won the goalie of the month award in January, so Dumont sits him 3 of the last 4 games? The game he did play,they won and he put up another game of two goals against or less.Nothing against Belanger, but I believe Sullivan has earned his shot. He'd definitely get my vote for "most likely to have dinner at your place".
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