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Post by Captain Obvious on May 28, 2015 17:41:07 GMT -4
By being able to take 15 year olds for the whole draft, it allows you to take risks later on, guys maybe in Midged Espoir with talent who are somewhat raw, sometimes they will make a big leap from 15 to 16. Of course if there's a targeted player there that slip through , I just mean as a game plan as a whole. I just see no point in drafting Canadian kids , who's ceiling are fringe major junior players, when we have a chance of landing an effective / star player if they report. I'd rather rather land a star player 1 our of 6 times , than land jr.a calibre players 6 out of 6 times. I liked they're move last season , hope it continues but I do agree our top picks should be used on Canadian kids unless it's a guaranteed American who'll report. By drafting a 15 year old instead of a 16 year old, it's inherently harder to project what you have for that player, moreso after the first 2-3 rounds. Then you're into kids that will need 1-3 years of development before hitting their prime.
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Post by SteveUL on May 29, 2015 8:19:01 GMT -4
By being able to take 15 year olds for the whole draft, it allows you to take risks later on, guys maybe in Midged Espoir with talent who are somewhat raw, sometimes they will make a big leap from 15 to 16. Of course if there's a targeted player there that slip through , I just mean as a game plan as a whole. I just see no point in drafting Canadian kids , who's ceiling are fringe major junior players, when we have a chance of landing an effective / star player if they report. I'd rather rather land a star player 1 our of 6 times , than land jr.a calibre players 6 out of 6 times. I liked they're move last season , hope it continues but I do agree our top picks should be used on Canadian kids unless it's a guaranteed American who'll report. Well you need a certain amount of local talent that doesn't project to be star players ... just to have players available as fill-ins for injury and other times that players are away. If all of your non-roster protected players are Americans that you haven't yet convinced to report, then you'll be stuck.
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on May 29, 2015 20:38:01 GMT -4
Of course if there's a targeted player there that slip through , I just mean as a game plan as a whole. I just see no point in drafting Canadian kids , who's ceiling are fringe major junior players, when we have a chance of landing an effective / star player if they report. I'd rather rather land a star player 1 our of 6 times , than land jr.a calibre players 6 out of 6 times. I liked they're move last season , hope it continues but I do agree our top picks should be used on Canadian kids unless it's a guaranteed American who'll report. Well you need a certain amount of local talent that doesn't project to be star players ... just to have players available as fill-ins for injury and other times that players are away. If all of your non-roster protected players are Americans that you haven't yet convinced to report, then you'll be stuck. Which is why I said from the 8th round on. At that point in the draft , you're lucky the player ever plays a game in the league let alone be a regular in the lineup. If I draft two players who never play a game in the league , you might as well go with the kid that would at least be on the team if he decided to report.
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 1, 2015 12:28:50 GMT -4
Well you need a certain amount of local talent that doesn't project to be star players ... just to have players available as fill-ins for injury and other times that players are away. If all of your non-roster protected players are Americans that you haven't yet convinced to report, then you'll be stuck. Which is why I said from the 8th round on. At that point in the draft , you're lucky the player ever plays a game in the league let alone be a regular in the lineup. If I draft two players who never play a game in the league , you might as well go with the kid that would at least be on the team if he decided to report. We've had several later round guy make our team ... most notably Christian Gaudet. I think you'll see it even more now where you can draft a 16 YO in any round. Now many of those guys that normally get taken as 17 YOs will be taken as 16 YOs in later rounds. There are lots of late bloomers that don't show much as 15 YOs in Midget (playing against 16 YOs and 17 YOs) and go undrafted ... but then their 16 YO season is a bit of a breakout and they get taken in the next draft. I'm all for taking a few flyers on US kids that are longshots to report ... and Canadian kids in the same boat ... but you still have to have a stable of accessible players ... and especially regional players. Especially our team who have had success attracting American players ... the more we have the easier it is to make your case to attract others. There are a lot of players playing in the JR A league here at 18 and 19 that could play in the Q ... but they aren't going to be impact players here so they don't get their shot. Many teams take the approach that if you don't make the team at 16 or 17, you probably won't.
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Post by Penguins23® on Jun 3, 2015 13:04:08 GMT -4
Why do you and Hodge think the Cats have a 2nd round pick?
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Post by Citris on Jun 3, 2015 13:08:37 GMT -4
Why do you and Hodge think the Cats have a 2nd round pick? 52nd is late in the third round. This ain't the NHL. It's an 18 team league.
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Post by Penguins23® on Jun 3, 2015 13:18:19 GMT -4
Why do you and Hodge think the Cats have a 2nd round pick? 52nd is late in the third round. This ain't the NHL. It's an 18 team league. Tell that to these guys: 1st 2nd 3rd Que 4th 6th Sha 7th Que 9th 10th Bat 11th 13th 14th Would be nice to add a couple of top 3 picks, but not a lot of asset to trade and still a big hole in nets. Sweeney is a guy that could be a good trade chip for a 1st rounder.
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Post by joehockey on Jun 3, 2015 13:26:20 GMT -4
52nd is late in the third round. This ain't the NHL. It's an 18 team league. Tell that to these guys: 1st 2nd 3rd Que 4th 6th Sha 7th Que 9th 10th Bat 11th 13th 14th Would be nice to add a couple of top 3 picks, but not a lot of asset to trade and still a big hole in nets. Sweeney is a guy that could be a good trade chip for a 1st rounder. One of the earlier draft orders had Moncton having a second round pick. Hodge has been wrong but I wouldn't be surprised to see one come back since he is likely getting his info from Shannon. Maybe the Moncton has the opportunity to make the 2016 second (Mon) a second from this year or maybe it was dependent on Lalonde recovering and playing a certain amount of games to change the 3rd to another second or performing to a certain level since he was just coming off an injury when they traded him. But I would probably assume that he is wrong and thinks the 2016 second that was received from Shaw was for this year. One another note, he says Moncton has 14 picks when I only count 13 in the 14 rounds (I guess the discrepancy is in the second round pick) but the Quebec boards who track the picks only has Moncton at 11 picks.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 3, 2015 14:45:57 GMT -4
Tell that to these guys: One of the earlier draft orders had Moncton having a second round pick. Hodge has been wrong but I wouldn't be surprised to see one come back since he is likely getting his info from Shannon. Maybe the Moncton has the opportunity to make the 2016 second (Mon) a second from this year or maybe it was dependent on Lalonde recovering and playing a certain amount of games to change the 3rd to another second or performing to a certain level since he was just coming off an injury when they traded him. But I would probably assume that he is wrong and thinks the 2016 second that was received from Shaw was for this year. One another note, he says Moncton has 14 picks when I only count 13 in the 14 rounds (I guess the discrepancy is in the second round pick) but the Quebec boards who track the picks only has Moncton at 11 picks. This is the official Q list given out to teams... chl-wordpress-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/app/uploads/2015/05/OrderSelection.pdfCats have 13 picks
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 4, 2015 13:02:46 GMT -4
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 13:33:18 GMT -4
In regards to their prediction of Moncton's pick, defenceman Alexander Krief: His size and skating is among the best in the draft. Had a good first half of the season, but struggled in the second half. He was used as a 4th line forward for Quebec at the Canada Games. Needs to add some muscle to become tougher to play against along the wall and in front of the net. Skates out of the zone with ease and can get out of trouble within 2 strides. Powerful skater with long strides. Fine first pass and plays at his best when he keeps it simple. Makes bad decisions when he tries to do too much. Needs work in his own end, reads, and one-on-ones. He's got a big shot from the point but needs to work on accuracy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 17:13:41 GMT -4
You want a mock draft? This is what you've all been waiting for. Just to be clear, this is my "opinion", not "facts". Got it, Billy? 17th: Anthony Poulin (Levis) Forward 52nd: Mika Cyr (Fredericton) Forward 54th: Keith Petruzelli (Springfield HS) Goalie 72nd: Scottie Greene (Central NFLD) Defenceman 105th: Mark McLaughlin (Cushing Academy) Forward 109th: Mikael Emond (Quebec Cyclones) Forward 124th: Christian Huntley (Halifax Macs) Defenceman 162nd: Logan Johnston (Fredericton) Forward 164th: Mark Kennedy (Cape Breton West) Defenseman 180th: Colin McCabe (Thayer Academy) Defenceman 198th: Drake Batherson (Valley Wildcats) Forward 235th: Jake Pappalardo (Proctor Academy) Forward 1997 252nd: Ryan Shea (Boston College HS) Defenceman 1997
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Post by joehockey on Jun 4, 2015 21:56:02 GMT -4
You want a mock draft? This is what you've all been waiting for. Just to be clear, this is my "opinion", not "facts". Got it, Billy? 17th: Anthony Poulin (Levis) Forward 52nd: Mika Cyr (Fredericton) Forward 54th: Keith Petruzelli (Springfield HS) Goalie 72nd: Scottie Greene (Central NFLD) Defenceman 105th: Mark McLaughlin (Cushing Academy) Forward 109th: Mikael Emond (Quebec Cyclones) Forward 124th: Christian Huntley (Halifax Macs) Defenceman 162nd: Logan Johnston (Fredericton) Forward 164th: Mark Kennedy (Cape Breton West) Defenseman 180th: Colin McCabe (Thayer Academy) Defenceman 198th: Drake Batherson (Valley Wildcats) Forward 235th: Jake Pappalardo (Proctor Academy) Forward 1997 252nd: Ryan Shea (Boston College HS) Defenceman 1997 Nice mock draft. I think this is the year teams can draft 99s throughout right? Just wondering because I think the players you have after the 8 round are all 98s or 97s
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 4, 2015 22:10:52 GMT -4
Rumor has the Cats trading out of round 1 and adding goalie Fortin from CB(1995).
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Post by joehockey on Jun 4, 2015 22:16:22 GMT -4
Rumor has the Cats trading out of round 1 and adding goalie Fortin from CB(1995). Two separate trades I assume? I doubt Fortin would worth anything more than a 7th since he didn't even play in the q last year.
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