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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 15:01:46 GMT -4
I have been coaching for 20+ years, if all I get is 2-3 sour parents a year...I am doing backflips!! 20 happy kids raising a championship banner still yields 2-3 sets of pissed off parents.
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Post by nsrinkrat on Nov 29, 2022 15:06:23 GMT -4
Again not a hockey parent to any Eagles players. Not sure why that is your go to? Also the owner is far from a billionaire! lol...... The product would change if moved because hopefully a move would also mean the front office and scouting staff would change. Come on.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 29, 2022 16:24:02 GMT -4
Again not a hockey parent to any Eagles players. Not sure why that is your go to? Also the owner is far from a billionaire! lol...... The product would change if moved because hopefully a move would also mean the front office and scouting staff would change. Come on. Now we're arguing over how much money someone has? Do we really care if the guy has 9 or 10 figures on hand? The point remains....he could theoretically eat losses for the rest of his life on this team and never miss 1 cent. Why would you just not advocate for firing Shaw? Arguing that the team needs to move for that to happen is just childish and not worthy of any decent discussion. Where would the team even go? There's not exactly huge markets begging for a QMJHL team. Just a pointless discussion when the facts are that every single poster here has criticized everyone more than enough yet you seem to think you're the only one. You're just like 8 months late to the conversation and starting it with gaslighting nonsense like "Move the team to fix the organization"
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Post by nsrinkrat on Nov 29, 2022 17:11:41 GMT -4
You honestly don’t believe a complete change is necessary? Shaw, Hanna, Murphy and other scouts? The assistant coaches??? MacNeil was a bad Midget coach?? Anthony was a Junior B player? Gouthro was below average? Only local low level coaches will coach here. The Board of Governors need to make tough decisions. Maybe moving the team is not the right way to put it but I don’t know how how else you get rid of these “local legends “? Shaw couldn’t coach minor hockey and Hanna has been let go from every other position he had until this one, and that’s because of his last name.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 29, 2022 19:13:48 GMT -4
You honestly don’t believe a complete change is necessary? Shaw, Hanna, Murphy and other scouts? The assistant coaches??? MacNeil was a bad Midget coach?? Anthony was a Junior B player? Gouthro was below average? Only local low level coaches will coach here. The Board of Governors need to make tough decisions. Maybe moving the team is not the right way to put it but I don’t know how how else you get rid of these “local legends “? Shaw couldn’t coach minor hockey and Hanna has been let go from every other position he had until this one, and that’s because of his last name. You are years late to the discussion is what everyone keeps saying and you refuse to acknowledge so the conversation is pointless. Are you really saying that we have not been negative enough? This forum didnt start yesterday. Read the last 2 years of shit talking the same people. Fans dont get to determine who runs a team though. And if you havent noticed our local population has spoken with their lack of support. What else are you looking for?
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Post by eagleeye on Nov 29, 2022 23:30:44 GMT -4
Euro goalie pick in 2023 SLY ??
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Post by hal on Nov 30, 2022 6:57:08 GMT -4
You honestly don’t believe a complete change is necessary? Shaw, Hanna, Murphy and other scouts? The assistant coaches??? MacNeil was a bad Midget coach?? Anthony was a Junior B player? Gouthro was below average? Only local low level coaches will coach here. The Board of Governors need to make tough decisions. Maybe moving the team is not the right way to put it but I don’t know how how else you get rid of these “local legends “? Shaw couldn’t coach minor hockey and Hanna has been let go from every other position he had until this one, and that’s because of his last name. You throw around suggestions and opinions , some good .....some bad and when nobody rallies around either .....u say that moving the Team is the way to go ? Irwin Simon has very deep pockets and Gerard Shaw is his guy ( he has backed him at every turn ) and you know what ? That ain't gonna change . The GM is not a Local , the Head Coach is not a Local ..... Anthony is Bi Lingual and Nick MacNeil coached in Moncton .....Hanna's position is very very Low Level stuff . Now as I said , you make some good suggestions but a Whopper of a Bad One .....by telling arguably The Richest Guy from the Island to get rid of his Team .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 9:29:01 GMT -4
Euro goalie pick in 2023 SLY ?? Certainly possible. Like we said before, Sly has to really try and nail this upcoming Euro draft. Would Satny(20) and Cloutier (17) make a good 1-2 punch in net? If not, maybe grab an 18 year old Euro goalie that could be a #1 for 2-3 years. Scoring is high on my list, an 18 year old and maybe a 17 year old sniper as a Euro pick would be nice as well
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Post by eagleeye on Nov 30, 2022 23:07:51 GMT -4
after tonights game i have to agree with you ,42 shots and only one goal
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Post by justathought on Nov 30, 2022 23:21:11 GMT -4
A power play goal would have really helped tonight! After a hot start this season, the power play has really cooled off. In the last 6 games it has gone 1 for 23.
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Post by mikeb on Dec 1, 2022 15:21:52 GMT -4
Euro goalie pick in 2023 SLY ?? Certainly possible. Like we said before, Sly has to really try and nail this upcoming Euro draft. Would Satny(20) and Cloutier (17) make a good 1-2 punch in net? If not, maybe grab an 18 year old Euro goalie that could be a #1 for 2-3 years. Scoring is high on my list, an 18 year old and maybe a 17 year old sniper as a Euro pick would be nice as well Sly's record with regards to Euro draft is not the greatest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2022 15:43:03 GMT -4
The Euro draft can be heavily weighted on the financial position of the Team. Not just from a cost of travel to scout, but the willingness to pay to get the player over here. To my understanding, it can be quite expensive, maybe Sly's challenges in Bathurst were more financial? Not sure.
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 1, 2022 17:46:39 GMT -4
The Euro draft can be heavily weighted on the financial position of the Team. Not just from a cost of travel to scout, but the willingness to pay to get the player over here. To my understanding, it can be quite expensive, maybe Sly's challenges in Bathurst were more financial? Not sure. 100% his challenges had to do with finances. However, a lot of players didn't want to come to smaller market teams, I remember Sly mentioning this publicly years ago when they took Kuznetsov #1 overall in the euro draft. Situation could be very different for you's
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 2, 2022 10:22:04 GMT -4
The Euro draft can be heavily weighted on the financial position of the Team. Not just from a cost of travel to scout, but the willingness to pay to get the player over here. To my understanding, it can be quite expensive, maybe Sly's challenges in Bathurst were more financial? Not sure. 100% his challenges had to do with finances. However, a lot of players didn't want to come to smaller market teams, I remember Sly mentioning this publicly years ago when they took Kuznetsov #1 overall in the euro draft. Situation could be very different for you's Entirely speculating here, but I don't see why CB wouldn't have a pretty good reputation in Euro circles? We've graduated quite a few to the NA pro game in the last decade, and have a pretty good record of sticking with them and giving them a chance? I can only think of Nizovkin as an exception to that. I think one thing we kind of all didn't take into consideration was how much an organization's circumstance dictates how you need to operate as a GM. I didn't give it much thought until Sly's comments at the town hall, but now it seems obvious. You're right that this might be a completely different situation for him.
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 2, 2022 17:12:43 GMT -4
100% his challenges had to do with finances. However, a lot of players didn't want to come to smaller market teams, I remember Sly mentioning this publicly years ago when they took Kuznetsov #1 overall in the euro draft. Situation could be very different for you's Entirely speculating here, but I don't see why CB wouldn't have a pretty good reputation in Euro circles? We've graduated quite a few to the NA pro game in the last decade, and have a pretty good record of sticking with them and giving them a chance? I can only think of Nizovkin as an exception to that. I think one thing we kind of all didn't take into consideration was how much an organization's circumstance dictates how you need to operate as a GM. I didn't give it much thought until Sly's comments at the town hall, but now it seems obvious. You're right that this might be a completely different situation for him. agreed, and yup exactly. Euro situation is very different for each team in the league.
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