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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 4, 2015 8:25:43 GMT -4
Great hockey players get picked late in every draft. That does not mean great hockey teams are built off of late round picks. Especially in this day and age with advanced stats and scouts scouring the earth to find any trace of talent. I agree you can find a Carrier late. That doesn't justify wasting the 4th overall pick. Someone asked if this happens in the OHL. I was just pointing out the most recent example. And since we can trade 1sts, why would you try and compare that value to Bowers? Makes no sense. I'm not trying to make comparisons. I'm just saying that getting 8 2nd and 3rd round picks isn't bad for a 3rd overall 1st round pick in the OHL this year. In a quantity over quality way I definitely agree. Like the Q some of those picks could be place holders for other assets at Xmas or after the season but it's not an awful return that's for sure.
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Post by gocapebreton on Sept 4, 2015 13:20:18 GMT -4
Great hockey players get picked late in every draft. That does not mean great hockey teams are built off of late round picks. Especially in this day and age with advanced stats and scouts scouring the earth to find any trace of talent. I agree you can find a Carrier late. That doesn't justify wasting the 4th overall pick. Someone asked if this happens in the OHL. I was just pointing out the most recent example. And since we can trade 1sts, why would you try and compare that value to Bowers? Makes no sense. I'm not trying to make comparisons. I'm just saying that getting 8 2nd and 3rd round picks isn't bad for a 3rd overall 1st round pick in the OHL this year. This just speaks for the value of top 5 picks. They are not easy to get, and Cape Breton was very lucky, or unlucky, in the fact that a couple of teams including themselves underachieved leading to the high picks. Very seldom, a team heading into its contending year ends up with this situation, and also should not have to burn those assets solely to contend in one year. The value of these picks should also show that whatever Cape Breton does with Shane Bowers rights, they should ensure they get return beyond this year. For whatever reasons, the apparent side show from last year led to the dealing of a high pick at Christmas, which otherwise should have been delayed until spring. Management has to accept responsibility for that, and really cannot afford to make mistakes with Bowers rights. At the end of the day, I cannot see the team wanting someone who does not want to be here, it is not good for anyone involved.
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Post by hal on Sept 4, 2015 15:27:33 GMT -4
If the Market consists of 3 Teams then ....what would they realistically offer for him ? knowing that the teams left in the mix have already taken a shot ? Isn't the best case scenario to hope that one of the Dogs,Cats or Moose are absolutely brutal ( especially by Christmas ) and see him as a somewhat saviour going forward and they may be willing to part with a Top 6 Forward , a Top 6 Defenceman and a 2nd or prospect ? So who of these 3 will suck the most that they stumble badly out of the gate ?
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Post by gocapebreton on Sept 4, 2015 16:11:21 GMT -4
If the Market consists of 3 Teams then ....what would they realistically offer for him ? knowing that the teams left in the mix have already taken a shot ? Isn't the best case scenario to hope that one of the Dogs,Cats or Moose are absolutely brutal ( especially by Christmas ) and see him as a somewhat saviour going forward and they may be willing to part with a Top 6 Forward , a Top 6 Defenceman and a 2nd or prospect ? So who of these 3 will suck the most that they stumble badly out of the gate ? I would think that both Saint John and Halifax have interest in Bowers, and probably offered reasonable trade value. Saint John held 9th and 10th picks. Halifax held 7th overall. Maybe Halifax was intent on getting Durandeau , and would not part with the 7th, but I would think that a deal could have been struck there. Then there is Saint John, they obviously had interest, and I would think that at the very least offered one of their top picks plus I'm guessing Highmore. Well Highmore is a top 6 forward, with another top 10 pick for the future. If you have at least 2 parties with serious interest, then there is competition. The other team is Moncton, and they obviously have Garland. I'm sure there are many that would like that. Personally, I would rather have seen a deal with Saint John, or Halifax,where they could have filled the void for this year and the future.
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Post by EagleFan2009 on Sept 6, 2015 12:32:17 GMT -4
If the Market consists of 3 Teams then ....what would they realistically offer for him ? knowing that the teams left in the mix have already taken a shot ? Isn't the best case scenario to hope that one of the Dogs,Cats or Moose are absolutely brutal ( especially by Christmas ) and see him as a somewhat saviour going forward and they may be willing to part with a Top 6 Forward , a Top 6 Defenceman and a 2nd or prospect ? So who of these 3 will suck the most that they stumble badly out of the gate ? I would think that both Saint John and Halifax have interest in Bowers, and probably offered reasonable trade value. Saint John held 9th and 10th picks. Halifax held 7th overall. Maybe Halifax was intent on getting Durandeau , and would not part with the 7th, but I would think that a deal could have been struck there. Then there is Saint John, they obviously had interest, and I would think that at the very least offered one of their top picks plus I'm guessing Highmore. Well Highmore is a top 6 forward, with another top 10 pick for the future. If you have at least 2 parties with serious interest, then there is competition. The other team is Moncton, and they obviously have Garland. I'm sure there are many that would like that. Personally, I would rather have seen a deal with Saint John, or Halifax,where they could have filled the void for this year and the future. If Saint John has a big first half I can't see them being interested in bowers. They will be looking to add. Their biggest question mark is in nets. Halifax should be the target. I would be happy with 2 pieces for him. Better then pissing away the pick.
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Post by billet on Sept 7, 2015 8:31:36 GMT -4
what if sour bower don't want to move , do we get #9 next year
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Post by downthemiddle on Sept 7, 2015 15:08:15 GMT -4
^ yes
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Post by yoyomamajoe on Sept 7, 2015 16:00:03 GMT -4
^ only if Cape Breton releases his rights
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Sept 8, 2015 16:23:04 GMT -4
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 8:38:44 GMT -4
Anyone know what the Eagles practice time is for today?
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Post by eaglefan62 on Sept 14, 2015 10:33:03 GMT -4
2.30-4.30
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Post by BigTwig on Sept 14, 2015 11:23:03 GMT -4
Let me know if they're using a beach ball practicing with Belanger
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 14, 2015 11:49:16 GMT -4
Let me know if they're using a beach ball practicing with Belanger Everyone of your posts is either pro Cape Bretoner or anti our goaltending. The only goaltender you never posted negatively about was a Cape Bretoner. Surely you must have more opinions then Belanger sucks, Jessiman plays too deep, and Sullivan is rock solid. Clearly 1 weekend with half a roster missing gives a great indication of whether or not we need to change our goaltending...again...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 13:47:55 GMT -4
Let me know if they're using a beach ball practicing with Belanger Sorry, they're using pucks on Belanger not a beach ball.
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Post by cb67 on Sept 15, 2015 18:09:25 GMT -4
About how long untill we should see our full roster ? I can't recall how many games usually get played before everyone returns.
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