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Post by EagleFan2009 on Sept 29, 2015 12:19:39 GMT -4
I apologize for starting this mess. I didn't think saying a guy had a bad game would turn into this non sense.
Players have bad games. Jack you defended him the right way. You can't argue with anything you've said. Brew jay will try though I'm sure.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Sept 29, 2015 12:28:48 GMT -4
I would take Dubois on the Halifax Mooseheads in a heartbeat, just saying. Even if he was floating around the odd game, the kid is a stud and the Eagles are fortunate to have him on their team.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 29, 2015 12:48:51 GMT -4
I apologize for starting this mess. I didn't think saying a guy had a bad game would turn into this non sense. Players have bad games. Jack you defended him the right way. You can't argue with anything you've said. Brew jay will try though I'm sure. I don't think anyone has an issue with what you posted. Players have bad games, it happens. When it was suggested that Dubois didn't want to play in CB, thats what got the rise from the crowd.
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Post by Kovalchuk2000 on Sept 29, 2015 14:35:21 GMT -4
I apologize for starting this mess. I didn't think saying a guy had a bad game would turn into this non sense. Players have bad games. Jack you defended him the right way. You can't argue with anything you've said. Brew jay will try though I'm sure. No I won't argue anything with people who clearly aren't open to the possibility that a player might not be playing to his potential. If we were talking about anybody else having a lower than normal compete level then it would just be a friendly discussion. However when it's a ranked nhl prospect who's still put up points despite his low compete level I'm an idiot? Whatever guys keep on keeping on!
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 29, 2015 14:56:14 GMT -4
I apologize for starting this mess. I didn't think saying a guy had a bad game would turn into this non sense. Players have bad games. Jack you defended him the right way. You can't argue with anything you've said. Brew jay will try though I'm sure. No I won't argue anything with people who clearly aren't open to the possibility that a player might not be playing to his potential. If we were talking about anybody else having a lower than normal compete level then it would just be a friendly discussion. However when it's a ranked nhl prospect who's still put up points despite his low compete level I'm an idiot? Whatever guys keep on keeping on! What would playing to his potential look like....numbers wise. What i've seen and heard about Dubois since he got here is the complete opposite of low compete level and not playing to his potential. His numbers also do nothing to claim that his compete level is anywhere near low.
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 29, 2015 15:11:35 GMT -4
Cape Breton Posting Clique Theory of Relativity:
Belanger < Sullivan > Dubois = LOL
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 29, 2015 15:13:28 GMT -4
Cape Breton Posting Clique Theory of Relativity: Belanger < Sullivan > Dubois = LOL It's really true though. The only one to never face any negative criticism...the backup goaltender with a Cape Breton address. Pretty pathetic. And we wonder why players may not want to come here.
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Post by Kovalchuk2000 on Sept 29, 2015 16:10:42 GMT -4
No I won't argue anything with people who clearly aren't open to the possibility that a player might not be playing to his potential. If we were talking about anybody else having a lower than normal compete level then it would just be a friendly discussion. However when it's a ranked nhl prospect who's still put up points despite his low compete level I'm an idiot? Whatever guys keep on keeping on! What would playing to his potential look like....numbers wise. What i've seen and heard about Dubois since he got here is the complete opposite of low compete level and not playing to his potential. His numbers also do nothing to claim that his compete level is anywhere near low. You just keep saying the same thing. Good for you.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 29, 2015 16:31:15 GMT -4
What would playing to his potential look like....numbers wise. What i've seen and heard about Dubois since he got here is the complete opposite of low compete level and not playing to his potential. His numbers also do nothing to claim that his compete level is anywhere near low. You just keep saying the same thing. Good for you. You keep avoiding any direct question. Let me try big letters this time. If he was playing to his potential, what should his statistics look like?It's really a pretty easy question to answer...especially as you've already claimed to be a 10+ year fan who should have an answer to something he has such a strong opinion about.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 29, 2015 17:08:43 GMT -4
He should be on a Mario Lemieux type pace apparently.
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Post by Kovalchuk2000 on Sept 29, 2015 18:56:57 GMT -4
You just keep saying the same thing. Good for you. You keep avoiding any direct question. Let me try big letters this time. If he was playing to his potential, what should his statistics look like?It's really a pretty easy question to answer...especially as you've already claimed to be a 10+ year fan who should have an answer to something he has such a strong opinion about. The most laughable thing here is that you think hockey is solely about statistics. His stats would improve. Not drastically but they would in all areas. That is what happens when you play better. He has an amazing shot and a great ability to find or create open ice. They are the reason his stats are so good. I'm saying he's not playing with an edge. Physically he's a decent sized kid and doesn't use his body nearly enough. On top of that he hasnt been skating at the speeds we know he can. The fact that you all keep using stats as backup to your insane arguments prove that you don't watch the games you just watch the scoreboard.
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Post by emerz on Sept 29, 2015 19:03:17 GMT -4
You keep avoiding any direct question. Let me try big letters this time. If he was playing to his potential, what should his statistics look like?It's really a pretty easy question to answer...especially as you've already claimed to be a 10+ year fan who should have an answer to something he has such a strong opinion about. The most laughable thing here is that you think hockey is solely about statistics. His stats would improve. Not drastically but they would in all areas. That is what happens when you play better. He has an amazing shot and a great ability to find or create open ice. They are the reason his stats are so good. I'm saying he's not playing with an edge. Physically he's a decent sized kid and doesn't use his body nearly enough. On top of that he hasnt been skating at the speeds we know he can. The fact that you all keep using stats as backup to your insane arguments prove that you don't watch the games you just watch the scoreboard. Has Dubois ever been a very fast skater though? Hes more about controlling the play and slowing it down like a David Krejci type in scoring areas. I just don't see what you're seeing, like maybe I'm wrong but I've not once came from a game and my thoughts are "wow Dubois is floating around out there looking bad", at least not yet this year. Granted he may have played that way in Halifax but he still put up an assist and a +2 I believe. If the team all played like Dubois did we'd win more much than lose games. Everything I've seen and heard about this kid from team mates and watching is that he's a team first player always, never sets personal goals like point totals, all he cares about is getting wins and winning a championship. All he talks about is winning games for the Eagles, team Canada gives him the A at the Ivan Hlinka and I wouldn't doubt to see him get at the very least, a world junior team camp invite.
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Post by Kovalchuk2000 on Sept 29, 2015 19:09:35 GMT -4
The most laughable thing here is that you think hockey is solely about statistics. His stats would improve. Not drastically but they would in all areas. That is what happens when you play better. He has an amazing shot and a great ability to find or create open ice. They are the reason his stats are so good. I'm saying he's not playing with an edge. Physically he's a decent sized kid and doesn't use his body nearly enough. On top of that he hasnt been skating at the speeds we know he can. The fact that you all keep using stats as backup to your insane arguments prove that you don't watch the games you just watch the scoreboard. Has Dubois ever been a very fast skater though? Hes more about controlling the play and slowing it down like a David Krejci type in scoring areas. I just don't see what you're seeing, like maybe I'm wrong but I've not once came from a game and my thoughts are "wow Dubois is floating around out there looking bad", at least not yet this year. Granted he may have played that way in Halifax but he still put up an assist and a +2 I believe. If the team all played like Dubois did we'd win more much than lose games. Everything I've seen and heard about this kid from team mates and watching is that he's a team first player always, never sets personal goals like point totals, all he cares about is getting wins and winning a championship. All he talks about is winning games for the Eagles, team Canada gives him the A at the Ivan Hlinka and I wouldn't doubt to see him get at the very least, a world junior team camp invite. You're right he's never been the fastest skater like I said his biggest skill set is the way he sees the ice and finishes plays. However Ive been noticing that more than usual he's giving up on plays, not necessarily doing the little things he needs to do to be more effective. The whole reason I started this was thinking maybe someone knew if he was playing with a minor injury or illness or if he had an altercation with someone on the team. He just seems a step behind where he should be right now to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 11:15:48 GMT -4
If anyone see's Clark Bishop around the rink or town even, maybe ask him how he felt about Dubois effort in his game against Halifax. I'll leave it at that.
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Post by goalie59 on Sept 30, 2015 11:47:26 GMT -4
Why not just ask Dubois about his effort in Halifax? That might wrap up this whole discussion.
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