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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 20, 2016 8:26:55 GMT -4
I had heard during the trade period that it was a done deal that Fitzgerald was coming to the Eagles but this is the first I heard about Dumont and Bowers father having a disagreement and Dumont scrapped the deal, maybe that's what happened. All in all, a pretty disappointning season, what a shame to lose like that with all that talent. I guess all the comments, even on the French blog, about Flynn outcoaching Dumont were more than just comments. Even the Eastlink commentators during the intermission were quite critical about how disorganized and disinterested the Eagles were playing.Time for something to be done with this organization. The Eagles under Dumont had almost zero structure at any point in the rebuilding phase. He acquired enough talent to give good teams a run but coaching and hard work always won out. To have that amount of veterans, and pay the price he did for so many of them, and end your season that way...well was pretty much predictable by anyone who has followed this team under Dumont's reign. Average GM. Below average head coach. Almost always a bad to offset any good he did. For every Leblanc there was a Leveille. For a Fiore there was a Carozza. For Hoyt there was Bowers. And let's not even get into the goaltending and how bad so many goalies looked behind his teams.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 20, 2016 8:32:27 GMT -4
- The Fans called for Pascal Vincent's Head for Years and it really set them back when he left...are they in the same situation now ? What set them back was Durocher going for it in 2010. That year was supposed to start the rebuild after 07, 08, and 09. Going all out in 2010, behind 2 CHL powerhouses in the division with a divisional playoff format, remains the worst decision the team ever made. In 04 the rebuilding was taken care of by Vincent securing Halifax's 1st in 05 as a part of the boomerang deal. We bounced back quickly from that to build a solid team that was the height of fans enjoyment from 06 through 09. Now we have a chance to rebuild properly. All the pieces are there for it to not have to be a 2 cycle rebuild. But it's a waste of time, and fans will start speaking with their wallet next year, if Dumont is back again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 15:26:36 GMT -4
What a great series, could have gone either way. I am sure most people had this at a 6 or 7 game series to start of with and both teams went for it. In the end your players were just a little more beat up than ours I feel. Kudo's for the guys stepping up and playing hurt. Remember these are young men and are hungry, I feel Turcotte was off Sunday and had a chance to redeem himself last night. That he did and Bergeron would have loved a couple back I am sure. But he was huge getting you guys past Chicoutimi, see you guys next season!!
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Post by berner on Apr 20, 2016 22:29:13 GMT -4
What a great series, could have gone either way. I am sure most people had this at a 6 or 7 game series to start of with and both teams went for it. In the end your players were just a little more beat up than ours I feel. Kudo's for the guys stepping up and playing hurt. Remember these are young men and are hungry, I feel Turcotte was off Sunday and had a chance to redeem himself last night. That he did and Bergeron would have loved a couple back I am sure. But he was huge getting you guys past Chicoutimi, see you guys next season!! Bergeron? I think you meant Belanger, but otherwise nice post
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 23:13:45 GMT -4
hahahaa yup, ty
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Apr 20, 2016 23:31:57 GMT -4
- The Fans called for Pascal Vincent's Head for Years and it really set them back when he left...are they in the same situation now ? What set them back was Durocher going for it in 2010. That year was supposed to start the rebuild after 07, 08, and 09. Going all out in 2010, behind 2 CHL powerhouses in the division with a divisional playoff format, remains the worst decision the team ever made. In 04 the rebuilding was taken care of by Vincent securing Halifax's 1st in 05 as a part of the boomerang deal. We bounced back quickly from that to build a solid team that was the height of fans enjoyment from 06 through 09. Now we have a chance to rebuild properly. All the pieces are there for it to not have to be a 2 cycle rebuild. But it's a waste of time, and fans will start speaking with their wallet next year, if Dumont is back again. Strange how things changed really. I remember when SJ first got a team and those initial struggles. I would always look at Cape Breton as a team I hoped SJ could be like some day. It seemed like while you guys were never the league favorite, you always seemed like a team that would win a round or two and get to the semis where we all know if you just can make it that far anything might happen. Then as you all know too well I am sure things all went to shit for you guys and the franchise never has been able to work their way up to that level, and from reading this board and the other various media out there after game 7 it seems like a chunk of your fan base is just wishing they could do things like in SJ. I do hope you guys get back on the right track....but when you do please time your "go for it years" to happen during SJ's rebuilding ones.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 21, 2016 9:20:47 GMT -4
What set them back was Durocher going for it in 2010. That year was supposed to start the rebuild after 07, 08, and 09. Going all out in 2010, behind 2 CHL powerhouses in the division with a divisional playoff format, remains the worst decision the team ever made. In 04 the rebuilding was taken care of by Vincent securing Halifax's 1st in 05 as a part of the boomerang deal. We bounced back quickly from that to build a solid team that was the height of fans enjoyment from 06 through 09. Now we have a chance to rebuild properly. All the pieces are there for it to not have to be a 2 cycle rebuild. But it's a waste of time, and fans will start speaking with their wallet next year, if Dumont is back again. Strange how things changed really. I remember when SJ first got a team and those initial struggles. I would always look at Cape Breton as a team I hoped SJ could be like some day. It seemed like while you guys were never the league favorite, you always seemed like a team that would win a round or two and get to the semis where we all know if you just can make it that far anything might happen. Then as you all know too well I am sure things all went to shit for you guys and the franchise never has been able to work their way up to that level, and from reading this board and the other various media out there after game 7 it seems like a chunk of your fan base is just wishing they could do things like in SJ. I do hope you guys get back on the right track....but when you do please time your "go for it years" to happen during SJ's rebuilding ones. I fear for our short and long term health if Dumont is brought back. What's kind of ironic is the board kept our games off of TV for what we can only assume was an effort to get as many paid customers as possible through the doors. Come round 2 late in the series we were selling out a big game that couldn't be broadcast provincially/regionally due to our boards request. But we did allow the 7th game. So anyone who did catch that, and nothing else, caught the teams worst moment in about a decade. While any positives that happened along the way weren't allowed to be shown. There's already a very cynical view of this team locally and seasons like this just support the view that the team has no clue has to run a successful operation that results in a lengthy playoff run or *gasp* 2 at the end of a rebuilding phase. As our youth population continues to shrink our fan base and the amount of frustration they'll take starts to shrink as well. That's a bad combination for a junior hockey team depending on the community as a whole to support it through good and bad.
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Post by bois on Apr 21, 2016 10:20:15 GMT -4
the decision to keep Eastlink out of your rink in round two was incredibly shortsighted
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Post by eagleog on Apr 21, 2016 10:46:24 GMT -4
the decision to keep Eastlink out of your rink in round two was incredibly shortsighted The fact the kept Eastlink out of the building was complete horseshit. I'm still shocked they didn't broadcast games 1 or 2 against Chicoutimi... But hey, what do we know about marketing and what fans want?!
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 21, 2016 11:01:31 GMT -4
the decision to keep Eastlink out of your rink in round two was incredibly shortsighted Especially when I feel like there's 15 years of information that pretty much shows that the games being on TV, if anything, leads to an increase in attendance.
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 21, 2016 14:55:09 GMT -4
the decision to keep Eastlink out of your rink in round two was incredibly shortsighted Especially when I feel like there's 15 years of information that pretty much shows that the games being on TV, if anything, leads to an increase in attendance. I'm not sure about Cape Breton but I don't think it's helped Moncton at all.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 21, 2016 15:15:28 GMT -4
the decision to keep Eastlink out of your rink in round two was incredibly shortsighted The fact the kept Eastlink out of the building was complete horseshit. I'm still shocked they didn't broadcast games 1 or 2 against Chicoutimi... But hey, what do we know about marketing and what fans want?! I can understand why they would want to hold Eastlink out. But they should look closer at it and work something better besides an outright ban. Typically, round 1 is poorly attended for the first home stand ... but if your team is up 2-0 coming home, then you'll get more people in the rink. If your team is down 2-0 then chances are you'll get less. So it depends on if you have home ice or not, and/or the series score. Game 6 and 7 typically will have all sorts of hype around them and lots of tickets get sold ... so games 6 and 7 should not be blocked. If your team makes it to Rd 2, there is typically more excitement already generated from winning Rd 1, so your rink gets fuller. The opponent will always make a difference also ... a series vs Chic is probably less desirable to buy tickets more than vs SJ. Eastlink can't setup a game at a moments notice so they probably need at least a few days notice, and time to get people and equipment in place. But it is also very good that Rogers and Eastlink can work together on 902 vs 506 series. I'd like to see that sometimes through the regular season also when they have no other options to show.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 21, 2016 15:15:40 GMT -4
Especially when I feel like there's 15 years of information that pretty much shows that the games being on TV, if anything, leads to an increase in attendance. I'm not sure about Cape Breton but I don't think it's helped Moncton at all. Do you think it's hurt attendance? Or is it an overall apathetic view your fan base has due to the teams overall direction? Our market for ticket buyers is primarily the CBRM. Putting games on TV is as much about getting the games to more remote areas where people can't realistically travel to a game as it is about convenience for those who would rather not buy a ticket. Add in the ways to stream games now and most tech savvy people can follow any Q team they like without even spending a dime and that plays a part as well i'm sure. I find any games put on local channel 10 see no major drop in attendance. Certainly no trends that can be easily picked apart to give justification for keeping games off of TV. In an age of cord cutting combined with Bell taking a lot of business from the Eastlinks/Seasides with fibreop bundles with better prices, speeds, and channel selection I don't think it's near the negative business impact that our ownership were scared of and if anything leaves a sour taste in the mouths of fans who seen most big Eagle playoff games from C200 broadcast over the years.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 21, 2016 15:18:03 GMT -4
the decision to keep Eastlink out of your rink in round two was incredibly shortsighted Especially when I feel like there's 15 years of information that pretty much shows that the games being on TV, if anything, leads to an increase in attendance. I'd like to see that information. I think having home games on TV is going to keep many people home on cold winter nights. On a regular winter night ... it probably doesn't make much difference.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 21, 2016 15:22:50 GMT -4
Especially when I feel like there's 15 years of information that pretty much shows that the games being on TV, if anything, leads to an increase in attendance. I'd like to see that information. I think having home games on TV is going to keep many people home on cold winter nights. On a regular winter night ... it probably doesn't make much difference. Our Friday night games on Eastlink are no better or worse attended then our other Friday night games with the factors you indicated playing the major role. It takes extremes such as weather, long weekends, major tournaments/festivals bringing people in to make our attendance really go up or down. I think if you had the data to compare a Friday night Eastlink game to a Friday night non-Eastlink game you would find very little difference. But that kind of historical data is impossible to find so we will never know for sure.
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