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Post by MikeC on Apr 14, 2019 16:27:15 GMT -4
Finland and USA go to OT in the gold medal game. Finland thinks they score the OT winner. The goal is called back, apparently for goalie interference, AND the US goalie is given a tripping penalty on the same incident.  |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 14, 2019 16:36:18 GMT -4
Idiotic refereeing.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 15, 2019 10:57:19 GMT -4
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 15, 2019 11:37:56 GMT -4
The tripping call can’t be reversed based on what they see on video review, it was called on the original play before the goal was taken away. It was no consolation prize. |
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 16, 2019 11:07:00 GMT -4
The tripping call can’t be reversed based on what they see on video review, it was called on the original play before the goal was taken away. It was no consolation prize. That is illogical though. At the moment the goal was scored any tripping call was nullified ... but it comes back in when the goal is disallowed ... I get it. But if they call it goaltender interference then it isn't a trip ... the goaltender was playing the puck and went to that spot on the ice to cover the puck which is the goaltender's right. The Finnish player then tripped over the goaltender as the goaltender was trying to complete her save. The fact that it gets called goaltender interference takes away any tripping call. You can't have one with the other. Look at it this way ... the Ref never made a tripping call initially, because the goal immediately following the trip nullified it ... it was not on the record when the replay review was taking place. The Replay Judge overturned the goal for goaltender interference, so the Ref decided then that if the goal doesn't count then I can call a tripping call. So no "Goaltender Interference" penalty was called even though it overturned the goal ... but they did call it "tripping", even though the Replay Judge had called it "Goaltender Interference", but the Replay Judge cannot assign a penalty. I am okay with the goal being overturned ... I don't think it should count. The US won fair and square IMO ... but the fact that the US had to kill a tripping penalty afterwards was garbage. There was no tripping call made initially ... it was added on after the goal was disallowed. But the bottom line is that in sports we have to live with the limitations of human referees and their calls have to stand. Just like that Perfect Game that Armondo Gallaraga lost because of an admitted blown call by Umpire Jim Joyce ... and the blown pass interference no-call that knocked New Orleans Saints out of last year's playoffs ... human limitations are part of the game. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 16, 2019 11:12:30 GMT -4
The tripping call can’t be reversed based on what they see on video review, it was called on the original play before the goal was taken away. It was no consolation prize. That is illogical though. At the moment the goal was scored any tripping call was nullified ... but it comes back in when the goal is disallowed ... I get it. But if they call it goaltender interference then it isn't a trip ... the goaltender was playing the puck and went to that spot on the ice to cover the puck which is the goaltender's right. The Finnish player then tripped over the goaltender as the goaltender was trying to complete her save. The fact that it gets called goaltender interference takes away any tripping call. You can't have one with the other. Look at it this way ... the Ref never made a tripping call initially, because the goal immediately following the trip nullified it ... it was not on the record when the replay review was taking place. The Replay Judge overturned the goal for goaltender interference, so the Ref decided then that if the goal doesn't count then I can call a tripping call. So no "Goaltender Interference" penalty was called even though it overturned the goal ... but they did call it "tripping", even though the Replay Judge had called it "Goaltender Interference", but the Replay Judge cannot assign a penalty. I am okay with the goal being overturned ... I don't think it should count. The US won fair and square IMO ... but the fact that the US had to kill a tripping penalty afterwards was garbage. There was no tripping call made initially ... it was added on after the goal was disallowed. But the bottom line is that in sports we have to live with the limitations of human referees and their calls have to stand. Just like that Perfect Game that Armondo Gallaraga lost because of an admitted blown call by Umpire Jim Joyce ... and the blown pass interference no-call that knocked New Orleans Saints out of last year's playoffs ... human limitations are part of the game. To me it’s no different then calling a trip and a dive on the same play. The Finnish player can interfere with the goalie and still be tripped by the US goalie. It isn’t one or the other. |
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 16, 2019 12:28:38 GMT -4
That is illogical though. At the moment the goal was scored any tripping call was nullified ... but it comes back in when the goal is disallowed ... I get it. But if they call it goaltender interference then it isn't a trip ... the goaltender was playing the puck and went to that spot on the ice to cover the puck which is the goaltender's right. The Finnish player then tripped over the goaltender as the goaltender was trying to complete her save. The fact that it gets called goaltender interference takes away any tripping call. You can't have one with the other. Look at it this way ... the Ref never made a tripping call initially, because the goal immediately following the trip nullified it ... it was not on the record when the replay review was taking place. The Replay Judge overturned the goal for goaltender interference, so the Ref decided then that if the goal doesn't count then I can call a tripping call. So no "Goaltender Interference" penalty was called even though it overturned the goal ... but they did call it "tripping", even though the Replay Judge had called it "Goaltender Interference", but the Replay Judge cannot assign a penalty. I am okay with the goal being overturned ... I don't think it should count. The US won fair and square IMO ... but the fact that the US had to kill a tripping penalty afterwards was garbage. There was no tripping call made initially ... it was added on after the goal was disallowed. But the bottom line is that in sports we have to live with the limitations of human referees and their calls have to stand. Just like that Perfect Game that Armondo Gallaraga lost because of an admitted blown call by Umpire Jim Joyce ... and the blown pass interference no-call that knocked New Orleans Saints out of last year's playoffs ... human limitations are part of the game. To me it’s no different then calling a trip and a dive on the same play. The Finnish player can interfere with the goalie and still be tripped by the US goalie. It isn’t one or the other. If the goaltender stuck out a leg then sure ... but all the goaltender did was move to play the puck ... her job. She "tripped" the player with her head because she was trying to complete her save. With a trip and a dive, typically you'll see a stick go into the skates or a hook ... intentionally or not ... and then some embellishment to sell the call ... two potential infractions. That is not even close to the case here. |
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