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Post by moosefan1994 on Jul 2, 2019 13:35:38 GMT -4
try reading dumbass we're talking about why Kerfoot was moved................. Colorado had 30 mil in capspace.... him getting 3.5/4 mil was irrelevant i know following along to an actual discussion is hard for you but go ahead and try reading the thread in order and fully.... maybe then you'll understand I am following along, idiot. I was talking about what Toronto is shedding and bringing in. Try and keep up. Bois was talking about the Av's cap room in his comment to me. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 2, 2019 13:37:25 GMT -4
I am following along, idiot. I was talking about what Toronto is shedding and bringing in. Try and keep up. Bois was talking about the Av's cap room in his comment to me. He replied to my post then was an ass. |
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Post by Murph on Jul 2, 2019 14:40:04 GMT -4
they have nearly 30 million dollars in cap space who the fuck cares what Kerfoot gets? Not sure what you're smoking, they have 11M and need to sign Marner Cici and Kerfoot. They can use Horton(5.3M) on LTIR but that isn't free cap space. Marner likely gets at least 10M, Cici around 4.5-5 and Kerfoot around 3.5. They lost in the 1st round last year and got worse at C and on defense. They’ve already agreed to give Ceci 4.5, but they can walk away from him as well and renounce his rights making him UFA. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Jul 2, 2019 15:13:24 GMT -4
Bois was talking about the Av's cap room in his comment to me. He replied to my post then was an ass. I read it as why does Toronto care as well. Looks like Bois is the one in the wrong who didn't write his comment clearly. |
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Post by bois on Jul 3, 2019 9:57:40 GMT -4
He replied to my post then was an ass. I read it as why does Toronto care as well. Looks like Bois is the one in the wrong who didn't write his comment clearly. then you are a dumbass who didn't read the whole thing thru either but more likely you're still pissed about the vladdy guerrero thread cliff notes for you i say great trade for Toronto... but don't understand why Colorado does it.. list reasons for my thinking Murph agrees with me Moosefan lists a bunch of reasons why colorado trades Barrie i respond with why i said what i originally did..... understand why they want Kadri... why they move Barrie.... but don't understand why they help a cap strapped team (Toronto... this implies quite clearly for anyone who can read i understand Toronto's cap crunch... again i reiterate all along Toronto made a GREAT deal) by paying half of Barries salary and tossing in Kerfoot (back to back 40 plus point seasons) for a poor mans Barrie (Rosen) and a 3rd round pick billy as he always does jumps in and adds something about Kerfoot getting 3.5/4 mil in arb.... no idea if this is what will happen or not but even if it does... it's irrelevant to my point as Colorado had 30 mil in capspace.... Billy responds again as usual like a jerk about what i'm smoking and takes things on Toronto side (which i never was talking about at all) i respond equally jerkish to inform him what i was talking about you jump in to be an ass for whatever reason have a nice day |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 3, 2019 11:55:54 GMT -4
I read it as why does Toronto care as well. Looks like Bois is the one in the wrong who didn't write his comment clearly. then you are a dumbass who didn't read the whole thing thru either but more likely you're still pissed about the vladdy guerrero thread cliff notes for you i say great trade for Toronto... but don't understand why Colorado does it.. list reasons for my thinking Murph agrees with me Moosefan lists a bunch of reasons why colorado trades Barrie i respond with why i said what i originally did..... understand why they want Kadri... why they move Barrie.... but don't understand why they help a cap strapped team (Toronto... this implies quite clearly for anyone who can read i understand Toronto's cap crunch... again i reiterate all along Toronto made a GREAT deal) by paying half of Barries salary and tossing in Kerfoot (back to back 40 plus point seasons) for a poor mans Barrie (Rosen) and a 3rd round pick billy as he always does jumps in and adds something about Kerfoot getting 3.5/4 mil in arb.... no idea if this is what will happen or not but even if it does... it's irrelevant to my point as Colorado had 30 mil in capspace.... Billy responds again as usual like a jerk about what i'm smoking and takes things on Toronto side (which i never was talking about at all) i respond equally jerkish to inform him what i was talking about you jump in to be an ass for whatever reason have a nice day Again, if you can’t act like a grownup, you should stay in the children section. You do this all the time. It was really simple until your ridiculous post about Colorado having 30M and then hurling insults. Colorado for a guy they see as a #2 center, signed for 3 years at 4.5M. They would have needed to pay Kerfoot almost as much and he is basically a #3 C. They could have probably gotten more for Barrie as a stand alone but centers are hard to find. I admit, I shouldn’t have gone to your level of childishness and hurled insults on my end. |
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Post by moosefan1994 on Jul 3, 2019 12:42:43 GMT -4
There were/are rumblings in Avs land that had Kerfoot won his arb case that Sakic would have walked away- sure they have the cap space but not at the expense of overpaying a player who hasn't/won't earn what the Avs would want.
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Post by bois on Jul 3, 2019 13:30:44 GMT -4
There were/are rumblings in Avs land that had Kerfoot won his arb case that Sakic would have walked away- sure they have the cap space but not at the expense of overpaying a player who hasn't/won't earn what the Avs would want. I don't watch the Avs much..... but looking at a player with only 2 years experience.... but both years solid production (40 plus points with not exactly stellar linemates i'd imagine.... colorado often loaded up the top line).... seems like someone you keep around even if he wins arbitration case and gets more than you think he should having 2 guys interchangeable down the middle to play 2-3 line (Kadri-Kerfoot) seems a better idea to me..... but i don't know enough about the Avs to comment much further i still would have looked for a better draft pick or prospect if i'm eating half of Barrie's salary to help Toronto try and keep Marner as well |
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Post by bois on Jul 3, 2019 13:34:47 GMT -4
then you are a dumbass who didn't read the whole thing thru either but more likely you're still pissed about the vladdy guerrero thread cliff notes for you i say great trade for Toronto... but don't understand why Colorado does it.. list reasons for my thinking Murph agrees with me Moosefan lists a bunch of reasons why colorado trades Barrie i respond with why i said what i originally did..... understand why they want Kadri... why they move Barrie.... but don't understand why they help a cap strapped team (Toronto... this implies quite clearly for anyone who can read i understand Toronto's cap crunch... again i reiterate all along Toronto made a GREAT deal) by paying half of Barries salary and tossing in Kerfoot (back to back 40 plus point seasons) for a poor mans Barrie (Rosen) and a 3rd round pick billy as he always does jumps in and adds something about Kerfoot getting 3.5/4 mil in arb.... no idea if this is what will happen or not but even if it does... it's irrelevant to my point as Colorado had 30 mil in capspace.... Billy responds again as usual like a jerk about what i'm smoking and takes things on Toronto side (which i never was talking about at all) i respond equally jerkish to inform him what i was talking about you jump in to be an ass for whatever reason have a nice day Again, if you can’t act like a grownup, you should stay in the children section. You do this all the time. It was really simple until your ridiculous post about Colorado having 30M and then hurling insults. Colorado for a guy they see as a #2 center, signed for 3 years at 4.5M. They would have needed to pay Kerfoot almost as much and he is basically a #3 C. They could have probably gotten more for Barrie as a stand alone but centers are hard to find. I admit, I shouldn’t have gone to your level of childishness and hurled insults on my end. you're right it was really simple... you misread/misunderstood what others were talking about there was no insult in my original reply to you.... i said who the fuck cares what Kerfoot gets when the team (i was talking about) had so much capspace my mistake i guess was replying to you at all..... |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 3, 2019 14:11:49 GMT -4
Again, if you can’t act like a grownup, you should stay in the children section. You do this all the time. It was really simple until your ridiculous post about Colorado having 30M and then hurling insults. Colorado for a guy they see as a #2 center, signed for 3 years at 4.5M. They would have needed to pay Kerfoot almost as much and he is basically a #3 C. They could have probably gotten more for Barrie as a stand alone but centers are hard to find. I admit, I shouldn’t have gone to your level of childishness and hurled insults on my end. you're right it was really simple... you misread/misunderstood what others were talking about there was no insult in my original reply to you.... i said who the fuck cares what Kerfoot gets when the team (i was talking about) had so much capspace my mistake i guess was replying to you at all..... What Kerfoot gets impacts the trade, Toronto is up against the cap if not over even with Clarkson LTIR. Not sure how that’s hard to comprehend or unrelated…pretty simple. |
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Post by moosefan1994 on Jul 3, 2019 14:57:20 GMT -4
There were/are rumblings in Avs land that had Kerfoot won his arb case that Sakic would have walked away- sure they have the cap space but not at the expense of overpaying a player who hasn't/won't earn what the Avs would want. I don't watch the Avs much..... but looking at a player with only 2 years experience.... but both years solid production (40 plus points with not exactly stellar linemates i'd imagine.... colorado often loaded up the top line).... seems like someone you keep around even if he wins arbitration case and gets more than you think he should having 2 guys interchangeable down the middle to play 2-3 line (Kadri-Kerfoot) seems a better idea to me..... but i don't know enough about the Avs to comment much further i still would have looked for a better draft pick or prospect if i'm eating half of Barrie's salary to help Toronto try and keep Marner as well The Avs are looking at Jost to mix in with Kadri; they also have Compher and Bowers is only a year away. They also got a steal in Newhook at 16 this year but I think they will take their time with him ; rushing Jost out of North Dakota after playing Tier 2 was not the right decision, it took a demotion to the AHL for him to get his confidence and staying an extra year in college was the right decision for Makar. Kamanev may be in the mix if he could stay healthy. I believe that the Avs didn't want to go with Kerfoot at that price and have a player taking up valuable cap space and roster space potentially in the near future with star contracts needing to be redone. Landeskog is not that far off and they won't be benefiting forever on Mackinnon's contract which is arguably one of if not the best in the NHL. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 3, 2019 15:28:36 GMT -4
I don't watch the Avs much..... but looking at a player with only 2 years experience.... but both years solid production (40 plus points with not exactly stellar linemates i'd imagine.... colorado often loaded up the top line).... seems like someone you keep around even if he wins arbitration case and gets more than you think he should having 2 guys interchangeable down the middle to play 2-3 line (Kadri-Kerfoot) seems a better idea to me..... but i don't know enough about the Avs to comment much further i still would have looked for a better draft pick or prospect if i'm eating half of Barrie's salary to help Toronto try and keep Marner as well The Avs are looking at Jost to mix in with Kadri; they also have Compher and Bowers is only a year away. They also got a steal in Newhook at 16 this year but I think they will take their time with him ; rushing Jost out of North Dakota after playing Tier 2 was not the right decision, it took a demotion to the AHL for him to get his confidence and staying an extra year in college was the right decision for Makar. Kamanev may be in the mix if he could stay healthy. I believe that the Avs didn't want to go with Kerfoot at that price and have a player taking up valuable cap space and roster space potentially in the near future with star contracts needing to be redone. Landeskog is not that far off and they won't be benefiting forever on Mackinnon's contract which is arguably one of if not the best in the NHL. From what I read their plan with Jost is to play wing on the 2nd line or center the 3rd, Compher C/W on the 3rd. Bowers profiles as a 3rd liner, not sure he ever ends up on a 2nd line. Newhook is a winger, he played wing in BCHL. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Jul 3, 2019 16:17:37 GMT -4
The Avs are looking at Jost to mix in with Kadri; they also have Compher and Bowers is only a year away. They also got a steal in Newhook at 16 this year but I think they will take their time with him ; rushing Jost out of North Dakota after playing Tier 2 was not the right decision, it took a demotion to the AHL for him to get his confidence and staying an extra year in college was the right decision for Makar. Kamanev may be in the mix if he could stay healthy. I believe that the Avs didn't want to go with Kerfoot at that price and have a player taking up valuable cap space and roster space potentially in the near future with star contracts needing to be redone. Landeskog is not that far off and they won't be benefiting forever on Mackinnon's contract which is arguably one of if not the best in the NHL. From what I read their plan with Jost is to play wing on the 2nd line or center the 3rd, Compher C/W on the 3rd. Bowers profiles as a 3rd liner, not sure he ever ends up on a 2nd line. Newhook is a winger, he played wing in BCHL. Newhook is a centre and played centre in the BCHL. It’s not to say he will play there in the NHL but he was definitely a C in the BCHL. |
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Post by hal on Jul 3, 2019 20:28:43 GMT -4
Never mind Aho ....The Habs sign Phil Varone !
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 4, 2019 6:42:54 GMT -4
From what I read their plan with Jost is to play wing on the 2nd line or center the 3rd, Compher C/W on the 3rd. Bowers profiles as a 3rd liner, not sure he ever ends up on a 2nd line. Newhook is a winger, he played wing in BCHL. Newhook is a centre and played centre in the BCHL. It’s not to say he will play there in the NHL but he was definitely a C in the BCHL. I thought Capmbell was the center usually? |
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