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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 21, 2019 12:24:02 GMT -4
These are the same people who I see standing in line at Shoppers Drug Mart on a Saturday waiting 8-10 people deep in line at the 1 person register while 3 self checkouts sit empty and give me a dirty look while I check myself out and save myself the 20 minutes in line. I use self-checkout whenever I can. I can't stand being in a line where the 78 yr old lady is counting out her correct change from her change purse, with shaky hands, all the while chatting up the cashier about meaningless weather talk. I use self-checkout so I don't have to kill people. I just hate the "they're killing the economy" logic. But I work in IT. So seeing more automation in society as something I want to see as it opens up more lanes for potential lines of work for someone like myself. And I tell those complaining: The people building, fixing, and doing any back end/up keep work on those things make way more then the part time minimum wage cashier would. And the one thing our society, especially in this area of the country, needs more of it's jobs that you can afford to put down roots, take on a mortgage, and save for retirement with. Things you can only do as a cashier if you have a significant other with a significantly better paying job. |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 21, 2019 15:00:17 GMT -4
I use self-checkout whenever I can. I can't stand being in a line where the 78 yr old lady is counting out her correct change from her change purse, with shaky hands, all the while chatting up the cashier about meaningless weather talk. I use self-checkout so I don't have to kill people. I just hate the "they're killing the economy" logic. But I work in IT. So seeing more automation in society as something I want to see as it opens up more lanes for potential lines of work for someone like myself. And I tell those complaining: The people building, fixing, and doing any back end/up keep work on those things make way more then the part time minimum wage cashier would. And the one thing our society, especially in this area of the country, needs more of it's jobs that you can afford to put down roots, take on a mortgage, and save for retirement with. Things you can only do as a cashier if you have a significant other with a significantly better paying job. I get the arguments that some people make being opposed to self-checkout systems. But in NB today there are far more minimum wage jobs available than people that want to work those jobs. So nobody is losing a job. At Walmart, there are usually 3 checkout lanes with a cashier open (non-Xmas season), and then before self-checkout they had what they called the express lane (10 items or less) where they'd have 3 other cashiers. Now with Self-Checkout they still have the three cashier manned lanes, and they have three people around the self-checkout area assisting old ladies trying to shove exact change into the machine. No jobs lost. |
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Post by bois on Nov 21, 2019 15:07:45 GMT -4
how did we go from discussing minor hockey name changes to self checkouts? lol
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 21, 2019 15:15:51 GMT -4
how did we go from discussing minor hockey name changes to self checkouts? lol Side tracked discussion lol...it happens  Minor hockey name change-->Snowflakes-->Boomers ranting about change-->Self Checkouts  |
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Post by Citris on Nov 21, 2019 16:14:30 GMT -4
i think it's a stupid term but maybe that's just me... and i'm hearing it tossed around way too much lately Completely agree. I also find it ironic that the people who use it the most usually have the biggest meltdowns over any little change or thing that doesn't go their way. I didn't want to comment on this whole thing because I was afraid of the "ermighad the snowflakes are ruining everything" narrative dominating the conversation, but I must say it is ridiculously refreshing to see that people are starting to recognize the "snowflake" thing for what it is. You nailed it right there. For me the change just catches us up with the rest of the world. Europe uses the same designations and I think the US does as well. It took me a long time to learn what the levels of hockey are called and I still get a few of them backwards, so, the change makes a lot of sense. |
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Post by Citris on Nov 21, 2019 16:19:22 GMT -4
I get the arguments that some people make being opposed to self-checkout systems. But in NB today there are far more minimum wage jobs available than people that want to work those jobs. So nobody is losing a job. At Walmart, there are usually 3 checkout lanes with a cashier open (non-Xmas season), and then before self-checkout they had what they called the express lane (10 items or less) where they'd have 3 other cashiers. Now with Self-Checkout they still have the three cashier manned lanes, and they have three people around the self-checkout area assisting old ladies trying to shove exact change into the machine. No jobs lost. Not to mention as somebody who has worked these minimum wage jobs in the past, and I'm sure anyone else who has will also know, any time your employer can get away with saving a penny or two, they well. People pretend like if we didn't have 6 robots and 2 cashiers we would have 8 cashiers instead. The reality is we would have 2 overworked and underpaid cashiers and 0 robots. MAYBE we'd get a 3rd person in for a 3 hour shift or they would just get somebody to work however long they can legally schedule them for without giving them a break (or, just straight up ignore labour laws and have them work 5 hours without a break anyway.) But less robots wouldn't mean better working conditions for the staff. Anyway sorry. I don't want to go on some pinko-commie anti-capitalist rant So I will stop myself. |
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Post by guru on Nov 21, 2019 19:07:59 GMT -4
I use self-checkout whenever I can. I can't stand being in a line where the 78 yr old lady is counting out her correct change from her change purse, with shaky hands, all the while chatting up the cashier about meaningless weather talk. I use self-checkout so I don't have to kill people. I just hate the "they're killing the economy" logic. But I work in IT. So seeing more automation in society as something I want to see as it opens up more lanes for potential lines of work for someone like myself. There is no shortage of jobs in IT, especially if you are worth a shit. |
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Post by guru on Nov 21, 2019 20:00:40 GMT -4
Completely agree. I also find it ironic that the people who use it the most usually have the biggest meltdowns over any little change or thing that doesn't go their way. It took me a long time to learn what the levels of hockey are called and I still get a few of them backwards, so, the change makes a lot of sense. You seem to have a keen eye for what goes on, but you must have learned minor hockey in another country? |
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Post by Citris on Nov 21, 2019 23:55:40 GMT -4
You seem to have a keen eye for what goes on, but you must have learned minor hockey in another country? My hockey journey was a bit weird. I played when I was younger, I just knew I was going to play hockey. I grew out of the game for a few years, got back into and played Bantam house... again at the time I didn't care enough to know I was playing bantam, I just knew my mom signed me up and I played. I only really learned after I started watching Midget. I learned the naming conventions in other countries just by researching prospects. It's pretty self-explanatory. U-20, U-18, U-16. |
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Nov 22, 2019 10:23:07 GMT -4
No problem with the changes. Think the reason it is being done now is the times and yes people are sensitive to wording but it never really made sense outside of the sport.
When I was a kid trying to figure out why they used these names I could never understand why not use wording which we all could understand what it meant and exactly the age range was. Unless u grew up around minor sports u might not know what a peewee is or a bantom. In US they have mite hockey and in football they have "pop warner" which goes anywhere from age 5-16 and that title has stuck for decades.
Clarity is a good thing.
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