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Post by Mika on Nov 19, 2019 21:07:39 GMT -4
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Post by chootoi on Nov 19, 2019 21:19:29 GMT -4
Politics aside I really have no problem with this. It makes much more sense than the current names anyway. IIHF tournaments are already recognized this way as well. Minor Baseball is already like this too.
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Post by yoyomamajoe on Nov 19, 2019 22:08:11 GMT -4
Politics aside I really have no problem with this. It makes much more sense than the current names anyway. IIHF tournaments are already recognized this way as well. Minor Baseball is already like this too. There is no problem with the name change, it is the reason why
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 20, 2019 10:24:46 GMT -4
Politics aside I really have no problem with this. It makes much more sense than the current names anyway. IIHF tournaments are already recognized this way as well. Minor Baseball is already like this too. There is no problem with the name change, it is the reason why So a minority in society has even less of a reason to question why society would name something like age groups in hockey after the derogatory name for a disability? Evolving into a better society is a good thing. Fighting change for the sake of your own benefit is not. This is a change for the better.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 20, 2019 10:27:45 GMT -4
Politics aside I really have no problem with this. It makes much more sense than the current names anyway. IIHF tournaments are already recognized this way as well. Minor Baseball is already like this too. Exactly. I see all the usual Conservatives online crying about Liberalism and snowflakes yet this seems like a common sense change for the better. The snowflakes on this one are the ones fighting the change. But as usual they only have strong opinions because they have no horse in this race. Terms like "midget" just shouldn't be used in this manner. And the change clarifies the age groups to make it make more sense then the previous naming convention.
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 20, 2019 14:22:51 GMT -4
Politics aside I really have no problem with this. It makes much more sense than the current names anyway. IIHF tournaments are already recognized this way as well. Minor Baseball is already like this too. Exactly. I see all the usual Conservatives online crying about Liberalism and snowflakes yet this seems like a common sense change for the better. The snowflakes on this one are the ones fighting the change. But as usual they only have strong opinions because they have no horse in this race. Terms like "midget" just shouldn't be used in this manner. And the change clarifies the age groups to make it make more sense then the previous naming convention. I'm surprised this wasn't changed years ago. The whole system made no sense really, while an age group system simply makes sense. The fact that a football team is still called the Redskins is baffling. So will Major Midget now be called Major U18 ?
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Post by scotiahockey on Nov 20, 2019 14:42:22 GMT -4
Exactly. I see all the usual Conservatives online crying about Liberalism and snowflakes yet this seems like a common sense change for the better. The snowflakes on this one are the ones fighting the change. But as usual they only have strong opinions because they have no horse in this race. Terms like "midget" just shouldn't be used in this manner. And the change clarifies the age groups to make it make more sense then the previous naming convention. I'm surprised this wasn't changed years ago. The whole system made no sense really, while an age group system simply makes sense. The fact that a football team is still called the Redskins is baffling. So will Major Midget now be called Major U18 ? Maybe: U18 Major AAA U18 Minor AAA U18 AA Etc, etc is how I’d envision it
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Post by Mika on Nov 20, 2019 18:41:42 GMT -4
I like the change simply because if you asked me the difference between Bantam, atom, peewee, and midget hockey. I would never be able to give an answer since I just don't know.
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Post by bois on Nov 21, 2019 11:08:46 GMT -4
on a sidenote
when did snowflakes become a thing? and what is it's actual meaning in terms of an insult?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 21, 2019 11:18:20 GMT -4
on a sidenote when did snowflakes become a thing? and what is it's actual meaning in terms of an insult? It's become a popular political "put down" over these last ~5 years or so. Generally used by hardcore right wing conservatives towards liberals out for more politically correct things in society. The insult is basically meant to mean a "weak willed" or "mentally weak" person who fights for change those right wingers view as attacks on their society. In this case those who would be complaining that the term midget is an outdated term that is a put down toward a certain demographic in society and want it changed to reflect a more inclusive society would be the "snowflakes". Last week those who took issue with Don Cherry's comments were the "snowflakes" to that crowd.
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Post by bois on Nov 21, 2019 11:28:02 GMT -4
i think it's a stupid term but maybe that's just me... and i'm hearing it tossed around way too much lately
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Post by catnut on Nov 21, 2019 11:33:33 GMT -4
i think it's a stupid term but maybe that's just me... and i'm hearing it tossed around way too much lately Completely agree. I also find it ironic that the people who use it the most usually have the biggest meltdowns over any little change or thing that doesn't go their way.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 21, 2019 11:37:19 GMT -4
i think it's a stupid term but maybe that's just me... and i'm hearing it tossed around way too much lately It's a term meant to just discredit and put down someone with a different thought while trying to kill any discussion around the subject. It's absolutely stupid and being used way too much. But its mainly done by a generation who doesn't like being told some of what they're become used to in society has gone on for too long and needs to be adjusted to make things more politically correct. Don't want that to happen? #1 Stop naming things after cultures/disabilities/other put downs in society and #2 open your mind to the fact that just because something isn't offensive now doesn't mean that it may not be in 30 or 40 years time as society changes, meanings of things change, and our perception of history changes. I don't think anyone named "midget" hockey in a way to get a laugh out of saying the name "midget" and relating it to little people. But I think we all mostly agree now that its a term that probably should not be used and in this case the change actually clarifies the divisions and makes way more sense then the random naming convention that was being used that also happened to be a put down toward a group of people in our society.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 21, 2019 11:43:11 GMT -4
i think it's a stupid term but maybe that's just me... and i'm hearing it tossed around way too much lately Completely agree. I also find it ironic that the people who use it the most usually have the biggest meltdowns over any little change or thing that doesn't go their way. These are the same people who I see standing in line at Shoppers Drug Mart on a Saturday waiting 8-10 people deep in line at the 1 person register while 3 self checkouts sit empty and give me a dirty look while I check myself out and save myself the 20 minutes in line.
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 21, 2019 12:20:06 GMT -4
Completely agree. I also find it ironic that the people who use it the most usually have the biggest meltdowns over any little change or thing that doesn't go their way. These are the same people who I see standing in line at Shoppers Drug Mart on a Saturday waiting 8-10 people deep in line at the 1 person register while 3 self checkouts sit empty and give me a dirty look while I check myself out and save myself the 20 minutes in line. I use self-checkout whenever I can. I can't stand being in a line where the 78 yr old lady is counting out her correct change from her change purse, with shaky hands, all the while chatting up the cashier about meaningless weather talk. I use self-checkout so I don't have to kill people.
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