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Post by bois on May 10, 2021 10:01:57 GMT -4
what the plan is for starting playoffs? are the playoffs going to begin while regular season makeup games are still happening? doesn't seem real productive or fair necessairily to have teams that had no covid impacts sit for 10-12 days waiting on Calgary and Vancouver to wrap up what could hopefully be meaningless schedules?
just curious if anyone has heard anything at all
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 10, 2021 10:08:57 GMT -4
I thought I read there was 1 plan out there that had the US playoffs starting this weekend but nothing seems to be set in stone yet.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on May 10, 2021 10:22:38 GMT -4
I heard on a US bdcst the start date would be May 15 - but could go back to May 17 since Toronto & Winnipeg play Friday May 14.
They don't want teams sitting around too long and while some teams may benefit resting injuries if they wait until May 19 that's not in every teams interest.
The Calgary and Vancouver games will need officials and the attention of league staff and broadcast partners. Probably means US will start Saturday and Canada on the off day between Calgary/Vancouver games which is Monday.
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Post by bois on May 10, 2021 10:29:22 GMT -4
I heard on a US bdcst the start date would be May 15 - but could go back to May 17 since Toronto & Winnipeg play Friday May 14. They don't want teams sitting around too long and while some teams may benefit resting injuries if they wait until May 19 that's not in every teams interest. The Calgary and Vancouver games will need officials and the attention of league staff and broadcast partners. Probably means US will start Saturday and Canada on the off day between Calgary/Vancouver games which is Monday. so they will go ahead with those last couple Calgary-Vancouver games even if they are totally meaningless? and if they aren't actually meaningless.... how do they start the Canadian playoffs? i dunno i hope the Habs pick up a point tonight and perhaps common sense dicates you know what those games don't actually mean anything so lets go ahead and call it a year
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on May 10, 2021 10:37:02 GMT -4
I heard on a US bdcst the start date would be May 15 - but could go back to May 17 since Toronto & Winnipeg play Friday May 14. They don't want teams sitting around too long and while some teams may benefit resting injuries if they wait until May 19 that's not in every teams interest. The Calgary and Vancouver games will need officials and the attention of league staff and broadcast partners. Probably means US will start Saturday and Canada on the off day between Calgary/Vancouver games which is Monday. so they will go ahead with those last couple Calgary-Vancouver games even if they are totally meaningless? and if they aren't actually meaningless.... how do they start the Canadian playoffs? i dunno i hope the Habs pick up a point tonight and perhaps common sense dicates you know what those games don't actually mean anything so lets go ahead and call it a year They may want to consult with the teams and players first. Players have bonuses in contracts and this may matter to someone. I think you are right that as soon as they can get an x by Montreal the league can say what they are doing. Do those games matter? No. Might someone care? Yes. Think what would happen if Ryan Miller didn't get to play his last game in a situation like that, or in a CHL comparison if a junior team didn't get to send off its 20 year olds properly. It would be crazy for us to interpose what we think. Big picture: The playoffs can't really start in the northern division until Monday at earliest because Toronto & Winnipeg play Friday. So they won't start in Canada until either Monday or Wednesday. There is no reason for US based playoffs to miss out on the weekend TV openings.
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Post by jimmy on May 10, 2021 10:38:08 GMT -4
I heard on a US bdcst the start date would be May 15 - but could go back to May 17 since Toronto & Winnipeg play Friday May 14. They don't want teams sitting around too long and while some teams may benefit resting injuries if they wait until May 19 that's not in every teams interest. The Calgary and Vancouver games will need officials and the attention of league staff and broadcast partners. Probably means US will start Saturday and Canada on the off day between Calgary/Vancouver games which is Monday. so they will go ahead with those last couple Calgary-Vancouver games even if they are totally meaningless? and if they aren't actually meaningless.... how do they start the Canadian playoffs? i dunno i hope the Habs pick up a point tonight and perhaps common sense dicates you know what those games don't actually mean anything so lets go ahead and call it a year Last I heard (NHL Network radio over the weekend), they had to play those games to satisfy contractual obligations to sponsors and broadcast partners. NHL was prepared to start US playoffs while those games were still going on, but Canadian playoffs would only start once they were played. Plan would then see Canadian teams gradually catch up to US teams over the course of the first two rounds such that they all start round 3 on same schedule. They mentioned that it is not uncommon for the NBA to have this kind of setup where two teams are playing 2nd round games while others are still in round 1.
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 10, 2021 10:59:33 GMT -4
so they will go ahead with those last couple Calgary-Vancouver games even if they are totally meaningless? and if they aren't actually meaningless.... how do they start the Canadian playoffs? i dunno i hope the Habs pick up a point tonight and perhaps common sense dicates you know what those games don't actually mean anything so lets go ahead and call it a year They may want to consult with the teams and players first. Players have bonuses in contracts and this may matter to someone. I think you are right that as soon as they can get an x by Montreal the league can say what they are doing. Do those games matter? No. Might someone care? Yes. Think what would happen if Ryan Miller didn't get to play his last game in a situation like that, or in a CHL comparison if a junior team didn't get to send off its 20 year olds properly. It would be crazy for us to interpose what we think. Big picture: The playoffs can't really start in the northern division until Monday at earliest because Toronto & Winnipeg play Friday. So they won't start in Canada until either Monday or Wednesday. There is no reason for US based playoffs to miss out on the weekend TV openings. Majority of NHL players dont really have bonuses. Some outliers do. Rookies and vets over 35. Those bonuses are already based on 82 games. So they're either already pro-rated or already meaningless for the most part one would think.
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 10, 2021 11:00:47 GMT -4
so they will go ahead with those last couple Calgary-Vancouver games even if they are totally meaningless? and if they aren't actually meaningless.... how do they start the Canadian playoffs? i dunno i hope the Habs pick up a point tonight and perhaps common sense dicates you know what those games don't actually mean anything so lets go ahead and call it a year Last I heard (NHL Network radio over the weekend), they had to play those games to satisfy contractual obligations to sponsors and broadcast partners. NHL was prepared to start US playoffs while those games were still going on, but Canadian playoffs would only start once they were played. Plan would then see Canadian teams gradually catch up to US teams over the course of the first two rounds such that they all start round 3 on same schedule. They mentioned that it is not uncommon for the NBA to have this kind of setup where two teams are playing 2nd round games while others are still in round 1. Thats true. NBA would have a game 7 the same day as game 1 of another round. I see no issue using days off to get to round 3 on even footing. Probably makes for some better games with 2 days off between some games.
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Post by bois on May 10, 2021 11:24:44 GMT -4
I'm just thinking who is watching the Flames-Canucks play out the season for absolutely nothing?
the league didn't have everyone play the same number of games last year
i'm pretty sure baseball has occasionally cancelled games that meant nothing rather than delay their playoffs
also for hockey pools...... how confusing is it to have playoff starting while regular season is finishing? i know the NHL doesn't care about that but i do hahaha
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on May 10, 2021 11:25:58 GMT -4
so they will go ahead with those last couple Calgary-Vancouver games even if they are totally meaningless? and if they aren't actually meaningless.... how do they start the Canadian playoffs? i dunno i hope the Habs pick up a point tonight and perhaps common sense dicates you know what those games don't actually mean anything so lets go ahead and call it a year Last I heard (NHL Network radio over the weekend), they had to play those games to satisfy contractual obligations to sponsors and broadcast partners. NHL was prepared to start US playoffs while those games were still going on, but Canadian playoffs would only start once they were played. Plan would then see Canadian teams gradually catch up to US teams over the course of the first two rounds such that they all start round 3 on same schedule. They mentioned that it is not uncommon for the NBA to have this kind of setup where two teams are playing 2nd round games while others are still in round 1. "Last I heard (NHL Network radio over the weekend), they had to play those games to satisfy contractual obligations to sponsors and broadcast partners." --- This makes complete sense. In a year where no fans watched these teams live. So somebody cares. Though I doubt many will watch. Even an ardent Vancouver fan may be changing channel to watch a better Vegas or Colorado playoff game. So who is seeing the advertisement? This is just to show they fulfill their commitments. It may also be why Canadian playoff teams need to wait until the 20th to start. Because the national stake holders are the same.
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 10, 2021 11:32:24 GMT -4
I'm just thinking who is watching the Flames-Canucks play out the season for absolutely nothing? the league didn't have everyone play the same number of games last year i'm pretty sure baseball has occasionally cancelled games that meant nothing rather than delay their playoffs also for hockey pools...... how confusing is it to have playoff starting while regular season is finishing? i know the NHL doesn't care about that but i do hahaha I was in 2 yahoo leagues. 1 ended on the 2nd and the other ended on Saturday the 8th. But yeah there will be other pools that take every game into account.
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 10, 2021 11:53:11 GMT -4
I'm just thinking who is watching the Flames-Canucks play out the season for absolutely nothing? the league didn't have everyone play the same number of games last year i'm pretty sure baseball has occasionally cancelled games that meant nothing rather than delay their playoffs also for hockey pools...... how confusing is it to have playoff starting while regular season is finishing? i know the NHL doesn't care about that but i do hahaha I was in 2 yahoo leagues. 1 ended on the 2nd and the other ended on Saturday the 8th. But yeah there will be other pools that take every game into account. Ours ends on the 13th on Thursday.
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 10, 2021 21:43:26 GMT -4
Bruins and Capitals start Saturday night so that answers that
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 11, 2021 7:32:54 GMT -4
Bruins and Capitals start Saturday night so that answers that I think the Canadian division only starts Tuesday. Not 100% sure.
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 11, 2021 9:40:35 GMT -4
Bruins and Capitals start Saturday night so that answers that I think the Canadian division only starts Tuesday. Not 100% sure. I read Wednesday I thought. They were talking of moving a Van/Cal game to an earlier start so it could be followed by the 8pm early game 1.
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