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Post by joehockey on Jun 4, 2023 8:05:06 GMT -4
Filion is a potential two year starter for whoever acquires him ... I did a quick dive of 2004 goalies around the league, the only other comparable in terms of Q experience that might be available for trade would appear to be Ruccia - guys like Gravel, Ciarlo, Rousseau, Mercer, Delafontaine, Fleming are unlikely to be available ... Miller and St. Hilaire both had good stats in small samples as rookie backups on powerhouse teams this year - likely not available as both seem poised to inherit the net on a rebuilding team next season. So supply/demand likely raises the price somewhat. Looking at the various possible returns from Riki: 1) 5th overall straight up - not happening 2) Filion and #13 for #5 - to me that seems to favour the Cats 3) Filion, #13, and #18 for #5 - to me that is too much, favours Riki 4) Filion, #13, 2024 pick (say 2nd or 3rd - maybe even some conditions) for #5 - seems about right 5) #20 straight up - maybe, seems a bit rich for Riki 6) Filion and a 2024 pick for #20 - seems about right All of the above simply to illustrate that there is the basis of a potential deal to be made involving Filion and picks for either of Riki's first rounders IMO. Will be interesting to see what happens. Yeah, it’d be great if it was #2 but probably #4. If they are trading for 5 then I just hope that they have 5 guys on the board that they view as elite. Hopefully there isn’t a drop off after the first 2 or 3 guys where the next 10 guys are interchangeable
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 4, 2023 8:43:52 GMT -4
Filion is a potential two year starter for whoever acquires him ... I did a quick dive of 2004 goalies around the league, the only other comparable in terms of Q experience that might be available for trade would appear to be Ruccia - guys like Gravel, Ciarlo, Rousseau, Mercer, Delafontaine, Fleming are unlikely to be available ... Miller and St. Hilaire both had good stats in small samples as rookie backups on powerhouse teams this year - likely not available as both seem poised to inherit the net on a rebuilding team next season. So supply/demand likely raises the price somewhat. Looking at the various possible returns from Riki: 1) 5th overall straight up - not happening 2) Filion and #13 for #5 - to me that seems to favour the Cats 3) Filion, #13, and #18 for #5 - to me that is too much, favours Riki 4) Filion, #13, 2024 pick (say 2nd or 3rd - maybe even some conditions) for #5 - seems about right 5) #20 straight up - maybe, seems a bit rich for Riki 6) Filion and a 2024 pick for #20 - seems about right All of the above simply to illustrate that there is the basis of a potential deal to be made involving Filion and picks for either of Riki's first rounders IMO. Will be interesting to see what happens. The information I have is Ritchie Thibeau informed teams Vincent Filion wasn’t available when the calls started. That resulted in them calling back with better offers which ended up being a bidding war. All indications is Rimouski ended up overpaying. The trade period is Wednesday from 9am-1pm so we will have to wait until then to see the final price.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 4, 2023 9:33:44 GMT -4
Over on the Quebec board, the discussion seems to be that it is Filion for #20. Linked to some blogger I never heard of, so take it for what it is worth ...
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Post by statsman18 on Jun 4, 2023 10:07:39 GMT -4
Over on the Quebec board, the discussion seems to be that it is Filion for #20. Linked to some blogger I never heard of, so take it for what it is worth ... Which still make sense. That’s an overpayment the 20th for Filion is an overpayment by all accounts. Think about it if I told you back in March Filion is going to be trade at the draft everyone here would have been excited if there was. 2nd round pick involved in the trade.
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Post by joehockey on Jun 4, 2023 10:34:00 GMT -4
Over on the Quebec board, the discussion seems to be that it is Filion for #20. Linked to some blogger I never heard of, so take it for what it is worth ... If it’s Filion for the last pick in the first round then that’s a great trade. You have to get think Moncton turns around and flips some picks to either move up or for a player. Can’t see anyway they pick 4 times in the first round (assuming the Filion rumour is true).
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Post by jordo999 on Jun 4, 2023 15:11:26 GMT -4
If Filion is worth pick #20, I wonder if the Titan could move Fleming, because his value is definitely higher, and he was fantastic the second half of the season for us on the worst team in the league.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 4, 2023 15:22:24 GMT -4
If Filion is worth pick #20, I wonder if the Titan could move Fleming, because his value is definitely higher, and he was fantastic the second half of the season for us on the worst team in the league. But who plays net for you guys if you move Fleming? Filion’s value was likely somewhat inflated due to a lack of better options being available … not many teams had a guy with that many games under his belt slated for a backup role.
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Post by jordo999 on Jun 5, 2023 10:45:04 GMT -4
If Filion is worth pick #20, I wonder if the Titan could move Fleming, because his value is definitely higher, and he was fantastic the second half of the season for us on the worst team in the league. But who plays net for you guys if you move Fleming? Filion’s value was likely somewhat inflated due to a lack of better options being available … not many teams had a guy with that many games under his belt slated for a backup role. yeah that's a fair point, this year is also said to be deep for goalie prospects so maybe the Titan draft one with one of their multiple 2nds/3rds and try to develop. Fleming's value is definitely high, but could be higher at Christmas as well if we keep him. If the value is too good to pass up then you could consider moving Fleming. right now this team doesn't really have a clear cut direction on when it wants to compete again. Last year would likely be considered year 0.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 5, 2023 20:24:57 GMT -4
Talks of Moncton acquiring Vincent Collard from Baie-Comeau.
2021 3rd overall pick.
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Post by catzfans on Jun 5, 2023 21:35:58 GMT -4
Talks of Moncton acquiring Vincent Collard from Baie-Comeau. 2021 3rd overall pick. Really depends on the cost. He's still young but he didn't impress in the playoffs against us
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Post by joehockey on Jun 5, 2023 22:00:40 GMT -4
Talks of Moncton acquiring Vincent Collard from Baie-Comeau. 2021 3rd overall pick. Makes sense since his age fits with the go for it year. Do we think it will cost a first?
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Jun 6, 2023 4:35:16 GMT -4
Maybe we’ll flip pick #20 from Fillion trade
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 6, 2023 7:49:49 GMT -4
Talks of Moncton acquiring Vincent Collard from Baie-Comeau. 2021 3rd overall pick. Would fit in well with the current group, adds size and is the right age group.
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Post by catzfans on Jun 6, 2023 19:39:47 GMT -4
When does the trade period open?
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Jun 6, 2023 19:40:55 GMT -4
When does the trade period open? Tomorrow at 9am
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