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Post by frogmorton2 on Jan 11, 2023 10:14:30 GMT -4
not worthy of hosting a Memorial Cup tournament but we are hosting a 2024 World curling championship?. I realize they are two different sports, but really?. Yes. The 2 are not even close to being in the same category. Our curling bid also does not rely even 1% on the quality of local curlers. The team we'd have to put on the ice in a Memorial Cup would factor into the decision. We're not competing against the other QMJHL and CHL teams for curling in the same way we would be a Memorial Cup. Our next Memorial Cup bid could be between us and Moncton. Or Quebec. Or Shawinigan. All newer arenas. All better organizations. And for all them to bid tomorrow they don't need $10+ million from 3 levels of government like we already know we do. The Memorial Cup has never been a realistic option thanks to our hockey ops. And now we're already picking battles with levels of government because our infrastructure is falling behind but our hockey team fell behind a decade ago and has never caught back up. And something that maybe the upper management might not realize is once the memorial cup is over. Odds are you'll be back to a bottom feeder team. And already attendance sadly suffers in Sydney. Look at the Sea Dogs last year. For the playoffs with Rimouski they weren't sell outs. Under 3k for the 3 home games. Which was sort of expected for the 1st round with the guarantee of the memorial cup. I know Cam MacDonald made a comment about that in a podcast over the summer. But to my point, each Sea Dogs game at the mem cup was sold out and now this season they' only broken the 2900 mark twice. My thought is, if upper management thinks the mem cup is a savior for the franchise, I don't agree. It's a great week of hockey but as a host team, you'll pay for it for the next three years. I think the Eagles should be focusing on building that sustainable team that isn't looking up at the table all season.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 11, 2023 10:23:53 GMT -4
Yes. The 2 are not even close to being in the same category. Our curling bid also does not rely even 1% on the quality of local curlers. The team we'd have to put on the ice in a Memorial Cup would factor into the decision. We're not competing against the other QMJHL and CHL teams for curling in the same way we would be a Memorial Cup. Our next Memorial Cup bid could be between us and Moncton. Or Quebec. Or Shawinigan. All newer arenas. All better organizations. And for all them to bid tomorrow they don't need $10+ million from 3 levels of government like we already know we do. The Memorial Cup has never been a realistic option thanks to our hockey ops. And now we're already picking battles with levels of government because our infrastructure is falling behind but our hockey team fell behind a decade ago and has never caught back up. And something that maybe the upper management might not realize is once the memorial cup is over. Odds are you'll be back to a bottom feeder team. And already attendance sadly suffers in Sydney. Look at the Sea Dogs last year. For the playoffs with Rimouski they weren't sell outs. Under 3k for the 3 home games. Which was sort of expected for the 1st round with the guarantee of the memorial cup. I know Cam MacDonald made a comment about that in a podcast over the summer. But to my point, each Sea Dogs game at the mem cup was sold out and now this season they' only broken the 2900 mark twice. My thought is, if upper management thinks the mem cup is a savior for the franchise, I don't agree. It's a great week of hockey but as a host team, you'll pay for it for the next three years. I think the Eagles should be focusing on building that sustainable team that isn't looking up at the table all season. I can't agree more. We've seen too much bad hockey here to think a solution is to have a great week and then be bad for 3 years afterwards. In my eyes we should have been very patient this year and buy some low cost vets and then see what players like Lavoie and Squires look like early next season as veterans. We keep getting trapped in buying early and try to sell it as smart even though we have the receipts from past regimes to show its not always the best way and in almost all of those cases not making that deal and keeping those assets was the smarter move. This logic of "we're winning next year" certainly isn't coming because so many view the talent on this club as ready to peak in 16 months or so. It's ok being driven by an owner who thinks pushing people to win is how you create success. In sports that logic can push you further away from that goal if the team isn't actually ready to contend.
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