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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 3, 2023 14:54:25 GMT -4
This is one of the main reasons kids get out of reffing, and it's not just parents, coaches are just as bad.
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Post by bois on Feb 3, 2023 14:57:43 GMT -4
no context provided
also the alarming trend of videotaping people to post to social media outlets to create outrage rather than going up to the person and saying hey buddy... it's a game... settle down
anyways no excuse for the treatment officials get at times but also cherry picking some random social media post isn't gonna change anything
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 3, 2023 15:24:13 GMT -4
no context provided also the alarming trend of videotaping people to post to social media outlets to create outrage rather than going up to the person and saying hey buddy... it's a game... settle down anyways no excuse for the treatment officials get at times but also cherry picking some random social media post isn't gonna change anything The context is that there is no place in hockey or any sport for this type of abuse. Saying nothing and doing nothing also doesn't change anything. |
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Post by briansjnb on Feb 27, 2023 8:42:13 GMT -4
no context provided also the alarming trend of videotaping people to post to social media outlets to create outrage rather than going up to the person and saying hey buddy... it's a game... settle down anyways no excuse for the treatment officials get at times but also cherry picking some random social media post isn't gonna change anything That is quite a take. What context would justify this behaviour? Who wants to confront someone acting like this? |
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Post by bois on Feb 27, 2023 8:48:52 GMT -4
no context provided also the alarming trend of videotaping people to post to social media outlets to create outrage rather than going up to the person and saying hey buddy... it's a game... settle down anyways no excuse for the treatment officials get at times but also cherry picking some random social media post isn't gonna change anything That is quite a take. What context would justify this behaviour? Who wants to confront someone acting like this? a) i'm not justifying the behaviour b) i also think rather than secretly videoing someone during their worst moments to splash all over social media is a far more toxic response than approaching the individual and trying to calm them down c) this post is a month old why did you wait til now to come at me with your white knight reply? |
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Post by eagleeye on Feb 27, 2023 12:09:45 GMT -4
15 year old grandson started refereeing last year ,quit this year , too much pressure from fans and parents , he said its not worth it .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 27, 2023 12:37:04 GMT -4
To just put the title in perspective....who is still wondering why kids don't want to ref?
This is a decades old issue. I've never heard anyone actually say "I wonder why kids don't want to do jobs that require judgment calls on strangers for $20 per 2.5 hours of work while getting crapped on by those watching the event"
Everyone knows being a referee is a thankless job being done by people who simply want to be a part of the sport and view that as their chance to stay in shape and stay in the hockey system.
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Post by briansjnb on Feb 28, 2023 10:14:57 GMT -4
That is quite a take. What context would justify this behaviour? Who wants to confront someone acting like this? a) i'm not justifying the behaviour b) i also think rather than secretly videoing someone during their worst moments to splash all over social media is a far more toxic response than approaching the individual and trying to calm them down c) this post is a month old why did you wait til now to come at me with your white knight reply? The only people concerned about this "trend" are people who have been acting like this and justifying it for decades without consequence. Should someone have confronted this person? Sure. Do I understand why people would be afraid to? Absolutely. Sorry I don't spend every day on the forum reading every single topic. Apparently that makes me a "white knight." Ad hominem attacks are my favourite. Responding to someone's comment with disagreement isn't "coming at you." |
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Post by bois on Feb 28, 2023 12:16:35 GMT -4
a) i'm not justifying the behaviour b) i also think rather than secretly videoing someone during their worst moments to splash all over social media is a far more toxic response than approaching the individual and trying to calm them down c) this post is a month old why did you wait til now to come at me with your white knight reply? The only people concerned about this "trend" are people who have been acting like this and justifying it for decades without consequence. Should someone have confronted this person? Sure. Do I understand why people would be afraid to? Absolutely. Sorry I don't spend every day on the forum reading every single topic. Apparently that makes me a "white knight." Ad hominem attacks are my favourite. Responding to someone's comment with disagreement isn't "coming at you." the only people concerned about this trend of people in general reaching for their recording devices to plaster any and everyone on social media are people acting like this for decades? ok interesting take my comment wasn't a take at all so nothing really to disagree with..... i said it was a link without any context provided.... hardly something worthy of serious discussion.... a typical habit of the poster who posted it... clickbait if u will I agree wholeheartedly with anyone who doesn't want to referee and subject themselves to riduclue and abuse by players/coaches/parents et al i certainly don't condone the actions of the individual as seen in this post..... however I have been around rinks long enough to know how heated things can get if referees let a game get out of hand.... and without seeing what caused the reaction of the individual here i just don't see what the purpose of the post was for if we wanna have a legitimate discussion about the topic of abuse of officials lets do that without the video if we wanna have the conversation about why as a society we now feel we are accomplishing something by posting bad behaviour instead of attempting to talk to people let's do that if you don't see that trend as toxic... i'm afraid we will probably just have to disagree |
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Post by briansjnb on Feb 28, 2023 13:13:31 GMT -4
So, my question remains, what context is missing that would make this OK? Personally, I don't think the actions in the video are ever acceptable.
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Post by bois on Feb 28, 2023 13:46:21 GMT -4
So, my question remains, what context is missing that would make this OK? Personally, I don't think the actions in the video are ever acceptable. your question was already answered the actions in the video aren't ok that was never in doubt nor ever suggested by me otherwise however for the sake of argument say your son or daughter was playing they were hit dangerously into the boards the ref made no call repeat scenarios thruout the game say even the kids are playing non checking hockey and this happens you think maybe a parent of a kid hurt because of the lack of control of the game by the person(s) given the duty of providing that control could potentially be frustrated enough to yell some obsceneties at the ref? do you think that person deserves to then have themselves plastered on social media for having a regreattble moment ? can there be two wrongs in a given situation? without knowing anything all we know is this person was upset at the refs at some random game and then for some reason a poster here decided that it was the reason kids quit reffing do we yell at the refs at the games we comment on in here? wonder why those refs didn't quit it is just a game but if your child is hurt playing it because the officials let things escalate greatly yeah I think i could get behind getting upset at them |
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