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Post by hal on Apr 13, 2023 4:37:54 GMT -4
Who pays for this Disaster ? Up by 20 pts in the 3rd Quarter and Lose ? 18 Missed Free Throws ? If this Team looks the same Next Season then Masai Ujiri is not the Basketball Genius that he is made out to be . My Guess is Nurse is out , along with Van Vleet , Trent Jr and maybe a few others . Ujiri and Wagner stay and start a rebuild is the way I see it .
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 13, 2023 9:15:28 GMT -4
Who pays for this Disaster ? Up by 20 pts in the 3rd Quarter and Lose ? 18 Missed Free Throws ? If this Team looks the same Next Season then Masai Ujiri is not the Basketball Genius that he is made out to be . My Guess is Nurse is out , along with Van Vleet , Trent Jr and maybe a few others . Ujiri and Wagner stay and start a rebuild is the way I see it . I will agree that this was a poor display of basketball, their shooters all went cold and they had no answer for Levine. However, the worst thing you can do is panic. They have a pretty young core, UJiri is a very good GM and Nurse a good coach. No doubt changes are needed and they need a plan moving forward, but "blowing it up" doesn't work any better in basketball than baseball or hockey unless you can win the lottery and get a Lebron, Jordan or Bird type player.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 13, 2023 10:05:49 GMT -4
The NBA is full of 20 point swings these days. Anyone who gambles, especially live in game bettors, will tell you that.
I almost view it as being up 2 in a hockey game at this point. A 10-2 swing over 2 minutes is nothing in the NBA so up 20 in the 3rd is still a long ways from over.
Reality is they had a good but not great season which matches their good but not great team. They played a comparable team and lost a close game in the final minutes.
I don't think anyone pays for that loss because Nurse was already leaving and change was already coming.
The mistake this team made was not bottoming out this season. Not losing game 83.
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 13, 2023 11:23:24 GMT -4
I think this play in game isn’t where things went wrong. This team wasn’t a good team from the off season. Masai and Bobby didn’t bring in the right players. They were really fixated on the whole 6’9 thing. Then when the trade deadline came and there was so much talk about Raptors players being available or not, or maybe, or not, they acquire Poeltl. Getting him wasn’t a mistake, yet. If he doesn’t resign then yes it was big time. They need a player like him. The thing is Fred and Gary are pending free agents that you have to ask do they fit anymore? Freddy maybe but Gary just doesn’t fit. They could have got a young player and maybe a 2nd rounder for him. I think he’s a wasted asset now. Fred I’m sure they hope to pull off a sign and trade but not sure other teams will do it.
I do think Masai miss read the whole season. He won’t get any backlash here but should. Here’s the biggest issue with what he did they still have to compete because they gave up their 1st round pick for Poeltl. It is top 4 protected but they don’t want to give up a top 10 pick for nothing.
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Post by coleminer on Apr 13, 2023 11:38:56 GMT -4
The thing is Fred and Gary are pending free agents that you have to ask do they fit anymore? On a first-name basis. I'm getting hives because you are starting to sound like Matt Devlin.
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Post by coleminer on Apr 13, 2023 11:39:54 GMT -4
I think this play in game isn’t where things went wrong. This team wasn’t a good team from the off season. Masai and Bobby didn’t bring in the right players. They were really fixated on the whole 6’9 thing. Then when the trade deadline came and there was so much talk about Raptors players being available or not, or maybe, or not, they acquire Poeltl. Getting him wasn’t a mistake, yet. If he doesn’t resign then yes it was big time. They need a player like him. The thing is Fred and Gary are pending free agents that you have to ask do they fit anymore? Freddy maybe but Gary just doesn’t fit. They could have got a young player and maybe a 2nd rounder for him. I think he’s a wasted asset now. Fred I’m sure they hope to pull off a sign and trade but not sure other teams will do it. I do think Masai miss read the whole season. He won’t get any backlash here but should. Here’s the biggest issue with what he did they still have to compete because they gave up their 1st round pick for Poeltl. It is top 4 protected but they don’t want to give up a top 10 pick for nothing. It will be an interesting off-season. There is no obvious choice to what they are going to do. I would just trade everyone and start over.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 13, 2023 12:01:42 GMT -4
I think this play in game isn’t where things went wrong. This team wasn’t a good team from the off season. Masai and Bobby didn’t bring in the right players. They were really fixated on the whole 6’9 thing. Then when the trade deadline came and there was so much talk about Raptors players being available or not, or maybe, or not, they acquire Poeltl. Getting him wasn’t a mistake, yet. If he doesn’t resign then yes it was big time. They need a player like him. The thing is Fred and Gary are pending free agents that you have to ask do they fit anymore? Freddy maybe but Gary just doesn’t fit. They could have got a young player and maybe a 2nd rounder for him. I think he’s a wasted asset now. Fred I’m sure they hope to pull off a sign and trade but not sure other teams will do it. I do think Masai miss read the whole season. He won’t get any backlash here but should. Here’s the biggest issue with what he did they still have to compete because they gave up their 1st round pick for Poeltl. It is top 4 protected but they don’t want to give up a top 10 pick for nothing. It will be an interesting off-season. There is no obvious choice to what they are going to do. I would just trade everyone and start over. Agreed. I would have done that a year ago and moved everyone but Barnes and hope for a lottery win.
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 14, 2023 12:12:04 GMT -4
I agree last year was a year they should have blown it up but they thought they were really the 49 win team they were the year before. This years team is more what this team really is. Personally I think Scottie, Poeltl, and Siakam are the ones left from the core. I love Freddy I just think he’s going to get big money from the magic. Maybe they can pull off a sign and trade but not so sure. I think OG is the biggest move you’ll see them make. I seen some where that Portland is willing to trade their 1st round pick unless it becomes a top 4. I think they sit 8th which would be a good start to a package for OG.
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Post by coleminer on Apr 22, 2023 8:30:30 GMT -4
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Post by hal on Apr 22, 2023 9:46:45 GMT -4
They have more problems than Nurse . It is all on Ujiri and Webster now ....you provided him with average at best players and wanted him to deliver Above Average Results .
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Post by coleminer on Apr 22, 2023 9:56:47 GMT -4
Udoka won't agree to coach there if the plan is to try to "win" with what they have now. I would assume he would like a to be presented with a vision, otherwise, he can wait for another job that will easily come his way.
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Post by hal on Jun 10, 2023 17:08:29 GMT -4
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Post by coleminer on Jun 10, 2023 17:15:31 GMT -4
Michael Grange with a lot of swing and misses lately.
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Post by coleminer on Jun 10, 2023 17:18:14 GMT -4
Bell and Rogers both own the Raptors, TSN and Sportsnet can't even break the story ahead of WOJ.
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Post by hal on Jun 24, 2023 12:25:53 GMT -4
Grady Dick ...lol.....a sharp shooting Freshman from Kansas is the Raptors 1st Round Pick this year . Can't wait for the Raptors Announcer when he hits his first 3 Pointer .........Dick from .....lol
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