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Dumais
May 8, 2023 11:23:51 GMT -4
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Post by Penguins23® on May 8, 2023 11:23:51 GMT -4
If Dumais is healthy at any point in the next two weeks, do you insert him in the lineup? I wish nothing but the best for Dumais and I hope his health improves and the coaches are forced to make a decision. It's a good problem to have. In my opinion though, like the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
During the regular season there was a lot of talk about Dumais just racking up points against bad teams and not being anything special against good teams and I think the playoffs have proven that he's not a big game player. Not yet anyway. This should at the very least quiet any talks of Québec bias for him being left off of team Canada.
I mean I'm not a big +/- fan but Dumais had easy matchups and offensive zone starts for 11 games and he's a - 1. 16 points in 11 and you're a - 1? Josh Lawrence on the other hand is a +18. The only other player in the negatives is Biasca but at least he brings leadership and has been solid on faceoffs. He was also +1 since Dumais exited the lineup.
Most importantly, Mooseheads showed they didn't need him. They were on pace to be swept by Sherbrooke with him in the lineup but won 4 in a row without him. In 2 regular season games against Québec, Dumais was a -2 with 0 points. Halifax won both matchups. Don't need to be a math wiz to figure that one out.
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Post by Reesor on May 8, 2023 11:31:29 GMT -4
If Dumais is healthy at any point in the next two weeks, do you insert him in the lineup? I wish nothing but the best for Dumais and I hope his health improves and the coaches are forced to make a decision. It's a good problem to have. In my opinion though, like the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. During the regular season there was a lot of talk about Dumais just racking up points against bad teams and not being anything special against good teams and I think the playoffs have proven that he's not a big game player. Not yet anyway. This should at the very least quiet any talks of Québec bias for him being left off of team Canada. I mean I'm not a big +/- fan but Dumais had easy matchups and offensive zone starts for 11 games and he's a - 1. 16 points in 11 and you're a - 1? Josh Lawrence on the other hand is a +18. The only other player in the negatives is Biasca but at least he brings leadership and has been solid on faceoffs. He was also +1 since Dumais exited the lineup. Most importantly, Mooseheads showed they didn't need him. They were on pace to be swept by Sherbrooke with him in the lineup but won 4 in a row without him. In 2 regular season games against Québec, Dumais was a -2 with 0 points. Halifax won both matchups. Don't need to be a math wiz to figure that one out. I do, but I put him on the 3rd line with Biasca and MacPhee for now and see how it plays out. Logan Crosby and Reese Peitzsche have played 3 to 4 shifts a game, so one of them sitting for Dumais doesn't affect the mojo too much. You then have Dumais available for the power play and to make the 3rd line dangerous. You can also double-shift him with Fournier at center and Peitzsche/Crosby every once in a while and see if you can catch Quebec napping with their 4th line on the ice. Dumais has the ability to make any of his linemates dangerous, and hiding him down in the lineup while the top two lines are doing well could make it difficult for Patrick to manage.
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Dumais
May 8, 2023 11:35:31 GMT -4
Post by Reesor on May 8, 2023 11:35:31 GMT -4
Speak of the devil.
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Post by Jacques Strap on May 8, 2023 12:56:13 GMT -4
I feel like I am in the twilight zone when I keep hearing people saying we don't need Dumais. He was the league's leading scorer. He was 2nd in scoring in the country behind Connor Bedard who will be the first overall pick in the upcoming NHL draft. He had a bad start to the Phoenix series and the Mooseheads ending up winning without him but they should not play him because of that? Ridiculous IMO.
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Post by Sean on May 8, 2023 13:46:56 GMT -4
If Dumais is Healthy, he plays. Period.
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Dumais
May 8, 2023 13:52:13 GMT -4
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on May 8, 2023 13:52:13 GMT -4
You keep the other guys guessing. Make them prepare for him being in lineup or not in lineup.
I doubt he is back in game 1 but it certainly is nice wrinkle to have available later in the series.
I want the opponent to think he may be 100% whether he is or not. But I wouldn't play him if he is borderline as I think the team isn't desperate to have him. Extra artillery doesn't hurt.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on May 8, 2023 14:18:02 GMT -4
I feel like I am in the twilight zone when I keep hearing people saying we don't need Dumais. He was the league's leading scorer. He was 2nd in scoring in the country behind Connor Bedard who will be the first overall pick in the upcoming NHL draft. He had a bad start to the Phoenix series and the Mooseheads ending up winning without him but they should not play him because of that? Ridiculous IMO. 100% he plays, and plays a big role - assuming he's healthy. Some were saying he wasn't 100% for playoffs. He wasn't as effective as he was all year but I still liked his effort level despite being mauled by the opposition. He was a special player for us all year - he was not some passenger who only scored against bottom feeders. If he comes back 100%, this team will be in great shape. He has offensive instinct and ability that is elite. They may lose to Quebec with or without him, though.
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Dumais
May 8, 2023 23:29:12 GMT -4
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2023 23:29:12 GMT -4
As someone mentioned I like the idea of the third line slot with MacPhee and Biasca, just to keep things in the groove. And slot Fournier in and out.
Quebec is due for a loss, got to catch them early. I don’t think we’ve had a good Game 1 all playoffs, but this is the first Game 1 on the road so this could be interesting.
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Post by Fryar on May 9, 2023 5:32:35 GMT -4
If Dumais is healthy at any point in the next two weeks, do you insert him in the lineup? I wish nothing but the best for Dumais and I hope his health improves and the coaches are forced to make a decision. It's a good problem to have. In my opinion though, like the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. During the regular season there was a lot of talk about Dumais just racking up points against bad teams and not being anything special against good teams and I think the playoffs have proven that he's not a big game player. Not yet anyway. This should at the very least quiet any talks of Québec bias for him being left off of team Canada. I mean I'm not a big +/- fan but Dumais had easy matchups and offensive zone starts for 11 games and he's a - 1. 16 points in 11 and you're a - 1? Josh Lawrence on the other hand is a +18. The only other player in the negatives is Biasca but at least he brings leadership and has been solid on faceoffs. He was also +1 since Dumais exited the lineup. Most importantly, Mooseheads showed they didn't need him. They were on pace to be swept by Sherbrooke with him in the lineup but won 4 in a row without him. In 2 regular season games against Québec, Dumais was a -2 with 0 points. Halifax won both matchups. Don't need to be a math wiz to figure that one out. So you keep Dumais out of the lineup, even if healthy enough to play, until the mooseheads lose a game. Too funny. I guess Crosby and Peitzsch bring certain intangibles that Dumais doesn't so they should play ahead of him. If the moose lose then they should do the radical move of shaking things up and put the League leading scorer back in the lineup. That's rich! Good chuckle.
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Dumais
May 9, 2023 8:35:41 GMT -4
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Post by howitzer on May 9, 2023 8:35:41 GMT -4
If Favreau even thought about not playing Dumais, he should be fired on the spot. Obviously he'd never, and the idea of sitting him because we have a good thing going is hilarious. Of course he plays.
The only reasonable discussion is where do you put him in the lineup? I think you leave the top 6 alone, at least to start the series and put Dumais with Biasca and whoever. See how it goes. But I don't think it would be long and Dumais would be back in his regular spot. Not the time to over complicate things.
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Post by Smiley on May 9, 2023 9:01:07 GMT -4
People, he is trolling you. Why anyone took that serious is beyond me.
I will give Penguins Props, he built a good story and narrative around that, but he is fucking around. LOL
he doesn’t believe that you sit a healthy Dumais. Hahahaha
Now we can debate “where do you insert him” when back. That is a better conversation.
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Dumais
May 9, 2023 9:27:24 GMT -4
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Post by howitzer on May 9, 2023 9:27:24 GMT -4
People, he is trolling you. Why anyone took that serious is beyond me. I will give Penguins Props, he built a good story and narrative around that, but he is fucking around. LOL he doesn’t believe that you sit a healthy Dumais. Hahahaha Now we can debate “where do you insert him” when back. That is a better conversation. He's a Moncton fan. Is it really a stretch to think he's serious? Lol.
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Dumais
May 9, 2023 15:45:49 GMT -4
Post by Penguins23® on May 9, 2023 15:45:49 GMT -4
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Dumais
May 9, 2023 17:26:42 GMT -4
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Post by hockeydad on May 9, 2023 17:26:42 GMT -4
What crazy talk of not putting Dumais back into your lineup the leagues top player and soon to be the top player in the Q this year no doubt !!! Obviously the post was made by a troll .
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on May 9, 2023 17:34:13 GMT -4
The issue may be that he gets too much ice time when he plays. Perhaps the events of the last week will give confidence in coaches that they can win with more balance. And on all these clips we need to keep in mind that fatigue accrues throughout a game. The time to shorten the bench is when you are down not with the lead or even tied. If Dumais were 90% he still would improve the PP if that's the only thing he did. Basic math suggests if you get 25-30 minutes a night you will be on the ice for lots of goals for and against. The key to winning is balance and not minimizing others contributions but also not leaning on just 1 or 2 players.
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