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Post by sherwood1020 on Sept 23, 2023 22:54:39 GMT -4
Talk is cheap, he's speaking with zero of the emotion and pride he's preaching and it's bleeding into the on ice product.
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Post by hal on Sept 24, 2023 11:11:43 GMT -4
Did The Falcon fly away ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 8:11:52 GMT -4
Talk is cheap, he's speaking with zero of the emotion and pride he's preaching and it's bleeding into the on ice product. I really hope no one on this board is going to question Robitaille's pride and emotion when it comes to the game of hockey. He has dedicated his life to the game and he is one of the most passionate hockey minds out there. Please don't judge the guy on a conversation with Pat McNeil.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 25, 2023 9:42:52 GMT -4
Talk is cheap, he's speaking with zero of the emotion and pride he's preaching and it's bleeding into the on ice product. I really hope no one on this board is going to question Robitaille's pride and emotion when it comes to the game of hockey. He has dedicated his life to the game and he is one of the most passionate hockey minds out there. Please don't judge the guy on a conversation with Pat McNeil. What are the people who paid $22 per night to watch 2 awful games where the team showed no emotion, pride, or inspiration allowed to say exactly? You're allowed to believe Robitaille has pride and emotion but also say that his team showed none of it which on opening weekend supporting a sick teammate with a new coach and big expectations is a huge let down for a fan base who just wants some reward for following this absolute circus. You cant expect ownership to embarrass themselves and the team to lay an egg on back-to-back nights and expect anything positive towards the new coach. Until his team shows it on the ice....people should question some things. All these people dedicate their lives to this sport. That doesnt mean they all get a free pass when 4200 people feel like they wasted their money and the team embarrassed themselves with their lack of absolute everything. Can we judge the 2nd intermission interview? Because thats where 100% of the focus should be. We have a shockingly low amount of scouts and cheap out in many areas but i'm sure the owners kid is pulling in 6 figures to not know who runs the hockey side of things live on the radio. $22 to watch cash in the bag because the hockey stinks is a hell of a way to market your product during opening weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 9:58:42 GMT -4
Fans can judge whatever they want and see the game how they see it. Shit on management, shit on players, coaches, go to town, I really don't care.
I am simply stating that Robitaille handled himself professionally in that interview and took emotion out of it.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 25, 2023 10:09:37 GMT -4
Fans can judge whatever they want and see the game how they see it. Shit on management, shit on players, coaches, go to town, I really don't care. I am simply stating that Robitaille handled himself professionally in that interview and took emotion out of it. To be fair - you didnt simple state that. You also talked about how he's dedicated his life to hockey. So has Couturier. So did Ron Choules. Every player who has ever played here and every coach and manager who has ever coached and managed here have dedicated massive amounts of their lives to the game of hockey. That doesn't excuse them from being called out when they don't perform. You can absolutely have taken in both games and watched that interview and be frustrated with the coaches lack of emotion. If that "professional" demeanour in the locker room offered no inspiration or motivation fans here should absolutely 100% be commenting on that and be concerned about it. Every time this team gets 1000 or so more fans than usual these last 3-4 years they completely lay an egg. No matter the coach, managers, or players. These fans should call that out. Their hard earned money is whats expected to support this franchise yet this franchise is not rewarding anyones loyalty with perhaps one of the more disappointing opening weekends in franchise history.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 10:24:41 GMT -4
I stated exactly that. He is a professional who handled a tough situation well. I have no idea why you are trying to overstate what I said.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 25, 2023 10:30:01 GMT -4
I stated exactly that. He is a professional who handled a tough situation well. I have no idea why you are trying to overstate what I said. Because you're basically saying that no fan gets to question the guys pride and emotion because he's dedicated his life to the sport. Or else why even go there in your initial comment? Fans are allowed to question any aspect of how a coach is motivating his players...or failing to. All these people dedicate their lives to the sport. And none of them are exempt from criticism when they fail to do well. In this case the entire weekend was concerning on many levels...including the lack of emotion from the team and coaching staff. As the head coach Robitaille should own that. And its fair for people to call it out when its clear his team was shell shocked due to the moment or just didn't care. Neither scenario is a great one for our fans. And they're absolutely entitled to voice their displeasure about it....including questioning the coach, his pride, and his emotion...while his team showed none of either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 10:43:39 GMT -4
LOL, you win.
That 3 min interview should have fans in a complete uproar. The guy embarrassed himself and the entire organization.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 25, 2023 10:51:04 GMT -4
LOL, you win. That 3 min interview should have fans in a complete uproar. The guy embarrassed himself and the entire organization. Did you completely miss sherwood's comment on how the lack of pride and emotion bled into the product? Scotty Bowman was considered one of the best coaches in hockey history. Not everything the guy did was positive. At times he wasn't the greatest and was fired. So many times over the course of history people fairly criticized one of the best ever at his craft and he was left unemployed. If the "professional" demeanour came after taking 4 points. Nobody has any issue. After THAT performance...did you actually take into account that they lose 2 games by a combined 13-1 because results seem irrelevant to you...the fans should be questioning his motivation and pride. Because the 20 guys on the ice didn't show any of those qualities have rubbed off from the coaching staff. Add in another distraction from ownership and I dont know what you expect to come here and read today. The team embarrassed themselves in many ways and you're here trying to give the coach a pass for reasons that are just silly to even mention at this point because everyone is dedicating time and working hard but thats why results are how that is all measured. Where does CB sit today results wise? Doesnt that answer any issues you have with frustrated fans? At least wait until these guys over achieve for a frigging period before you come here telling people why they need to only see the coach a certain way.
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Post by jimmy on Sept 25, 2023 13:21:26 GMT -4
Opening weekend was definitely embarrassing, and I can feel for the fans being frustrated, given that this is a pattern of underperformance that has been going on for years spanning many coaches. That said, I think I would be even more concerned if the new coach WAS freaking out in public 2 games into the season. Don't get me wrong - there will come a point where it becomes justified, but likely behind closed doors first. It is a long year - as a coach you need to approach it accordingly ... you will have two game losing streaks from time to time, even as a top team - need to learn from it and bounce back. While perhaps cathartic for some fans, nothing to be gained by having a public temper tantrum 5 periods into the season by the coach. But I would expect the players will have a tough week of practices ahead ... good thing Trevor Simon is coming in to help out
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 25, 2023 13:30:13 GMT -4
Opening weekend was definitely embarrassing, and I can feel for the fans being frustrated, given that this is a pattern of underperformance that has been going on for years spanning many coaches. That said, I think I would be even more concerned if the new coach WAS freaking out in public 2 games into the season. Don't get me wrong - there will come a point where it becomes justified, but likely behind closed doors first. It is a long year - as a coach you need to approach it accordingly ... you will have two game losing streaks from time to time, even as a top team - need to learn from it and bounce back. While perhaps cathartic for some fans, nothing to be gained by having a public temper tantrum 5 periods into the season by the coach. But I would expect the players will have a tough week of practices ahead ... good thing Trevor Simon is coming in to help out I would agree that the coach having a public meltdown wouldnt be great. But I think its fair to see/hear a lack of emotion in a post game presser and wonder that if the reason for the terrible performance, lack of emotion, whatever you call it could have come out of the players feeling a similar vibe. Ultimately 1 weekend means nothing if there's lessons learned from it. I'm defending the fans right to be frustrated and even question the coach a bit vs the view that you can't do that because the coach is working so hard and is dedicated. In 4 weeks time this might mean a big nothing. But it didnt feel any different and there's a lot of questionable signs lingering after those 2 games. I think this fan base has good reason to question when they get to turn a corner because going into the weekend those 2 games felt like we should not have had the tough time we did for whatever reason. The losing isnt as bad if you feel you worked hard and things just didnt go your way. This felt like we didn't want it which all things considered with the Newcombe situation and a new coach running things....there's no excuse for.
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Post by hal on Sept 25, 2023 16:55:15 GMT -4
With all the upheaval with Management personnel and the Head Coach , the Fans just wanted something good to latch on to and a win or 2 would have done it but a sub par effort was inexcusable . The hiring of the New Head Coach was a positive but the Disaster of an Opening Weekend combined with Simon's Young Fella coming on Board at the same time has just caused people here to be upset for the most part . Hopefully it will be a distant memory if they start winning . I personally would not have had a problem with seeing the Coach get a little upset behind the bench because with all the recent rule changes .......it's not like the Players can go out and try to spark their Club the Old Traditional Way .
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Post by jamesnorris on Sept 25, 2023 17:21:30 GMT -4
the disconnect between ownership/management and the general public seems to get wider every single season, month, week, day
The results this weekend don't even factor into my take, although it does feel a great example of an organization that knows wtf they're doing and another that just can't get out of their own way
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Post by sherwood1020 on Sept 25, 2023 18:11:53 GMT -4
Opening weekend was definitely embarrassing, and I can feel for the fans being frustrated, given that this is a pattern of underperformance that has been going on for years spanning many coaches. That said, I think I would be even more concerned if the new coach WAS freaking out in public 2 games into the season. Don't get me wrong - there will come a point where it becomes justified, but likely behind closed doors first. It is a long year - as a coach you need to approach it accordingly ... you will have two game losing streaks from time to time, even as a top team - need to learn from it and bounce back. While perhaps cathartic for some fans, nothing to be gained by having a public temper tantrum 5 periods into the season by the coach. But I would expect the players will have a tough week of practices ahead ... good thing Trevor Simon is coming in to help out Once Trevor gets his pair of skates he's always wanted and we get him signed up for the learn to skate program... we're finally gonna get that Calder Cup Irwin has always dreamed about.
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