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Post by fabi1309 on Oct 7, 2023 21:40:29 GMT -4
This team has gumption, what a fun season this will be. Gotta love the attitude and work ethic. Enjoy it while it lasts - I've been told we are sellers this year. On the plus side, I'm sure if Brody Fournier keeps this up he might bring back a first round pick. Who would have thought! In all seriousness, we look not too bad considering we are missing last year's league MVP and are only playing with 2 20s. Quite frankly, selling at Christmas just doesn't make sense to me financially for the new owners (tho I know they aren't the only ones to make that decision). We have a pretty capable team (ranked 6th in the CHL) in their 30th anniversary season with almost the whole lower bowl being season tickets. That's a lot of potential revenue to be generated with a deep playoff run.
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Post by hfxfan2002 on Oct 7, 2023 22:36:27 GMT -4
There’s so much to say but it’s late, just gotta say, love how hot we’re starting the season, On paper the team doesn’t look like much at all. But on the ice it’s a whole different story. Everything I say wrong seems to become right.
5 wins in a row and Jordan Dumais should be on his way back soon, holy cow I’m excited.
Rousseau has a 1.20GAA and a 0.956 save percentage in 5 games. unreal!
Still a lot of proving to do to prove we’re a playoff contender, even with Dumais back. My very amateur probably wrong opinion says add Peter Reynolds and we’re set. Fournier can be a dangerous third line piece. Not super shiny but he’s scoring some big goals for us.
The Levesque | Cataford | Crosby was slightly off today, but that’s okay. You could see the line changes being made in the 2nd period to try to wake up the game. It wasn’t until that frustrating spree of plays on the Blainville side when Rousseau left the net to grab the puck and a whole episode of plays happened that the game starting to open up for Halifax and close for Blainville.
MacPhee felt a little off today, got 2 penalties, got drawed out of the faceoff circle a couple time. Jake Todd is earning his ice time out there, love his confidence but sometimes it feels like he’s a little too confident. Ponzetto I feel is going to need to play fourth line minutes while he adjusts to the league, I hope that’s fine. I mean Marcel Marcel was a fourth liner for Gatineau last season.
Anyways I said more than I thought I was going to say, one last thing, I was surprised to find out Swan is a 4th liner for Blainville, wonder what happened. Kind of sad really, at least he’s still in the league!
Now we’re off for a three game road trip, there’s no way in hell we win all 3, if we do then the road is paved well for the moose.
Go Moose Go!
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Post by howitzer on Oct 8, 2023 7:01:32 GMT -4
Not sure where you heard that but I'm not buying it.
Get Dumais back, add 1-2 top 6 forwards, they're a contender as much as anyone else.
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Post by Citris on Oct 8, 2023 10:46:32 GMT -4
This team has gumption, what a fun season this will be. Gotta love the attitude and work ethic. Enjoy it while it lasts - I've been told we are sellers this year. On the plus side, I'm sure if Brody Fournier keeps this up he might bring back a first round pick. Who would have thought! In all seriousness, we look not too bad considering we are missing last year's league MVP and are only playing with 2 20s. Seems like a lot of people are failing to grasp the sarcasm of this post lol.
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Post by Citris on Oct 8, 2023 11:23:20 GMT -4
Anyways I said more than I thought I was going to say, one last thing, I was surprised to find out Swan is a 4th liner for Blainville, wonder what happened. Kind of sad really, at least he’s still in the league! Honestly, that's one thing Cam and his staff have seemed to have learned and greatly improved on in the last few seasons - knowing when to cash out on an asset. After the gamble on Sam Dube, or Senna Peeters, two significant assets the team was forced to cut loose for nothing, and by nothing, I mean not even games played. But if you look at Cam Russel's second half of 2022 - that was some tidy work, he got good value for Vincent Gauthier (who is now playing Junior A in Quebec), Bobby Orr, and James Swan, all assets that significantly declined in value after leaving the organization. Part of me has to wonder if this is Cam Russel having a bit more freedom on the hockey ops side without having to get the green light from Bobby Smith? The Simons aren't "hockey guys" in the traditional sense, they're probably in a situation where they don't have the knowledge (or perceived knowledge) to make these decisions and know they have to trust Cam to do his job. That's PURE speculation tho. Still, the biggest criticism that can be made of the Mooseheads front office in the past few seasons is the moves not made by Halifax (Desnoyers and Barron, specifically... I guess you could argue they should have tried to move off Brady James last off-season after Rousseau showed he was the starter in 2022's playoffs)
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Post by jabronie10 on Oct 8, 2023 12:29:10 GMT -4
Anyways I said more than I thought I was going to say, one last thing, I was surprised to find out Swan is a 4th liner for Blainville, wonder what happened. Kind of sad really, at least he’s still in the league! Honestly, that's one thing Cam and his staff have seemed to have learned and greatly improved on in the last few seasons - knowing when to cash out on an asset. After the gamble on Sam Dube, or Senna Peeters, two significant assets the team was forced to cut loose for nothing, and by nothing, I mean not even games played. But if you look at Cam Russel's second half of 2022 - that was some tidy work, he got good value for Vincent Gauthier (who is now playing Junior A in Quebec), Bobby Orr, and James Swan, all assets that significantly declined in value after leaving the organization. Part of me has to wonder if this is Cam Russel having a bit more freedom on the hockey ops side without having to get the green light from Bobby Smith? The Simons aren't "hockey guys" in the traditional sense, they're probably in a situation where they don't have the knowledge (or perceived knowledge) to make these decisions and know they have to trust Cam to do his job. That's PURE speculation tho. Still, the biggest criticism that can be made of the Mooseheads front office in the past few seasons is the moves not made by Halifax (Desnoyers and Barron, specifically... I guess you could argue they should have tried to move off Brady James last off-season after Rousseau showed he was the starter in 2022's playoffs) Biggest mistake was Bobby Smith ego getting in the way of trading Desnoyers!!!!! They had Lawrence for the entire year last year had that not happened, those assets would have been massive this year in acquiring some of the 1-2 assets needed for contending. Now because of that, there will be futures needed to be traded.
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Post by howitzer on Oct 8, 2023 12:32:10 GMT -4
Honestly, that's one thing Cam and his staff have seemed to have learned and greatly improved on in the last few seasons - knowing when to cash out on an asset. After the gamble on Sam Dube, or Senna Peeters, two significant assets the team was forced to cut loose for nothing, and by nothing, I mean not even games played. But if you look at Cam Russel's second half of 2022 - that was some tidy work, he got good value for Vincent Gauthier (who is now playing Junior A in Quebec), Bobby Orr, and James Swan, all assets that significantly declined in value after leaving the organization. Part of me has to wonder if this is Cam Russel having a bit more freedom on the hockey ops side without having to get the green light from Bobby Smith? The Simons aren't "hockey guys" in the traditional sense, they're probably in a situation where they don't have the knowledge (or perceived knowledge) to make these decisions and know they have to trust Cam to do his job. That's PURE speculation tho. Still, the biggest criticism that can be made of the Mooseheads front office in the past few seasons is the moves not made by Halifax (Desnoyers and Barron, specifically... I guess you could argue they should have tried to move off Brady James last off-season after Rousseau showed he was the starter in 2022's playoffs) Biggest mistake was Bobby Smith ego getting in the way of trading Desnoyers!!!!! They had Lawrence for the entire year last year had that not happened, those assets would have been massive this year in acquiring some of the 1-2 assets needed for contending. Now because of that, there will be futures needed to be traded. I'm still traumatized.
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Post by jabronie10 on Oct 8, 2023 12:39:29 GMT -4
Biggest mistake was Bobby Smith ego getting in the way of trading Desnoyers!!!!! They had Lawrence for the entire year last year had that not happened, those assets would have been massive this year in acquiring some of the 1-2 assets needed for contending. Now because of that, there will be futures needed to be traded. I'm still traumatized. Right!!!!!!
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Post by Citris on Oct 8, 2023 13:05:38 GMT -4
It'll be interesting to see how this all pans out. With the emergence of Crosby and Levesque, there's less work that needs to be done. Certainly bringing in an impact 20 will help, but honestly there's not as much work needed on this roster as originally thought.
Add Dumais and a Center to this roster and it's already quite scary.
As mentioned in another thread, if there's a possibility of Robidas coming back, if the Mooseheads could somehow land him...
Dumais - Vidicek - Fournier Peitszche - Robidas - Cataford Levesque - Kilfoil - Crosby Todd - MacPhee - Fontaine/Moser/Ponzetto
That's already not bad at all.
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Post by hfxfan2002 on Oct 8, 2023 15:52:15 GMT -4
It'll be interesting to see how this all pans out. With the emergence of Crosby and Levesque, there's less work that needs to be done. Certainly bringing in an impact 20 will help, but honestly there's not as much work needed on this roster as originally thought. Add Dumais and a Center to this roster and it's already quite scary. As mentioned in another thread, if there's a possibility of Robidas coming back, if the Mooseheads could somehow land him... Dumais - Vidicek - Fournier Peitszche - Robidas - Cataford Levesque - Kilfoil - Crosby Todd - MacPhee - Fontaine/Moser/Ponzetto That's already not bad at all. Good point on Justin Robidas! He’s down in the ECHL right now, there’s been a trend in recent years where guys return back to junior. Guys like Luke Prokop & Pierrick Dube to name a couple. But being under the rights of Quebec you don’t know the price. It’s worth pointing out that Patrick Roy is gone, former Moose coach Eric Veilleux coaches Quebec and Simon Gagne is the General Manager, and they haven’t been given much, they just got thrown a rebuke team. So they’ll want picks. So we’ll see what happens on that front. It is what it is if it costs us a Round 1 and a Round 2 like Josh Lawrence did. Hopefully it doesn’t. Cataford | Vidicek | Dumais Levesque | Robidas | Crosby Peitzsche | Kilfoil | Fournier Ponzetto | MacPhee | Todd Another potential lines, third line could still great. Furlong | Moravec Schultz | Phillips Martin | MacKinnon Rousseau
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Post by howitzer on Oct 8, 2023 17:25:58 GMT -4
With the emergence of some guys this year (so far), Cam might not have to buy as much as expected. If thats still the case come xmas, hopefully he can do all his buying with picks, and not be forced into future deals.
Halifax would have 4-5 top of the market guys next season, if they can hold onto them. Cataford, Vidicek (20), MacKinnon, Schultz (20), Rousseau (20), even Phillips if they felt frisky. That's an instant rebuild.
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Post by jabronie10 on Oct 8, 2023 21:29:43 GMT -4
With the emergence of some guys this year (so far), Cam might not have to buy as much as expected. If thats still the case come xmas, hopefully he can do all his buying with picks, and not be forced into future deals. Halifax would have 4-5 top of the market guys next season, if they can hold onto them. Cataford, Vidicek (20), MacKinnon, Schultz (20), Rousseau (20), even Phillips if they felt frisky. That's an instant rebuild. You don’t want to half ass this opportunity like they did 2019!! All they needed was Teasdale and we would have won everything. They let the only team who shouldn’t have gotten him, get him and we lose the Q and Memorial Cup. All because Bobby didn’t want to include futures for it. But that’s fine. I really hope they go out and get Luneau ( if he comes back) and make sure they get a really impactful 20. I know people think our D is set, but adding a Luneau is a massive upgrade to Martin and moves everyone down one spot which is insane. Imagine having Luneau/MacKinnon top line, then that leaves Furlong/Moravec getting second line duties and Phillips/Schultz 3 line duties. With Rousseau in nets that’s insane. Shoot for the fences this year
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Post by Roscoe on Oct 9, 2023 23:45:42 GMT -4
It'll be interesting to see how this all pans out. With the emergence of Crosby and Levesque, there's less work that needs to be done. Certainly bringing in an impact 20 will help, but honestly there's not as much work needed on this roster as originally thought. Add Dumais and a Center to this roster and it's already quite scary. As mentioned in another thread, if there's a possibility of Robidas coming back, if the Mooseheads could somehow land him... Dumais - Vidicek - Fournier Peitszche - Robidas - Cataford Levesque - Kilfoil - Crosby Todd - MacPhee - Fontaine/Moser/Ponzetto That's already not bad at all. Good point on Justin Robidas! He’s down in the ECHL right now, there’s been a trend in recent years where guys return back to junior. Guys like Luke Prokop & Pierrick Dube to name a couple. But being under the rights of Quebec you don’t know the price. It’s worth pointing out that Patrick Roy is gone, former Moose coach Eric Veilleux coaches Quebec and Simon Gagne is the General Manager, and they haven’t been given much, they just got thrown a rebuke team. So they’ll want picks. So we’ll see what happens on that front. It is what it is if it costs us a Round 1 and a Round 2 like Josh Lawrence did. Hopefully it doesn’t.I think it's more likely that any deal would involve a 19/20 yo upgrade this year from a selling team, with Cataford or MacKinnon being moved at the 2024 draft in exchange... Right now the cupboard is pretty bare in Mooseland draft pick wise...
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Post by Citris on Oct 9, 2023 23:59:23 GMT -4
I think it's more likely that any deal would involve a 19/20 yo upgrade this year from a selling team, with Cataford or MacKinnon being moved at the 2024 draft in exchange... Right now the cupboard is pretty bare in Mooseland draft pick wise...Halifax has all their picks in rounds 3 through 14 in 2024. Halifax has all their picks in 2025 and 2026. The only extra pick they have is a Shawinigan 8th rounder in 2025 That's not overflowing, but I wouldn't call those cupboards bare at all.
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Post by Roscoe on Oct 10, 2023 0:07:25 GMT -4
I think it's more likely that any deal would involve a 19/20 yo upgrade this year from a selling team, with Cataford or MacKinnon being moved at the 2024 draft in exchange... Right now the cupboard is pretty bare in Mooseland draft pick wise...Halifax has all their picks in rounds 3 through 14 in 2024. Halifax has all their picks in 2025 and 2026. The only extra pick they have is a Shawinigan 8th rounder in 2025 That's not overflowing, but I wouldn't call those cupboards bare at all. 2024 - it's like 2019, the year after the Mem Cup - not great! Is it a good idea to trade 2025/26 high picks? Might make for a dark 2-3 years! 2019 PIC POS PLAYER
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