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Post by jabronie10 on Oct 25, 2023 21:17:14 GMT -4
Are we in agreement that “IF” Luneau comes back that is priority number one, 2 20 year old forwards are a must and maybe another stronger F also. It’s go all in or trade Dumais and Furlong at Xmas
Tonight’s game was the D trying not to make mistakes because of who was in nets, and it turned out to be the exact opposite. That D need to just be better!!!! And that’s it.
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Post by hfxfan2002 on Oct 25, 2023 21:37:22 GMT -4
Are we in agreement that “IF” Luneau comes back that is priority number one, 2 20 year old forwards are a must and maybe another stronger F also. It’s go all in or trade Dumais and Furlong at Xmas Tonight’s game was the D trying not to make mistakes because of who was in nets, and it turned out to be the exact opposite. That D need to just be better!!!! And that’s it. Tristan Luneau and Justin Robidas would be nice, feels unlikely but never know.
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Post by rookieq on Oct 25, 2023 21:41:24 GMT -4
Are we in agreement that “IF” Luneau comes back that is priority number one, 2 20 year old forwards are a must and maybe another stronger F also. It’s go all in or trade Dumais and Furlong at Xmas Tonight’s game was the D trying not to make mistakes because of who was in nets, and it turned out to be the exact opposite. That D need to just be better!!!! And that’s it. I’s becoming obvious that we need those 3 players or equivalent, but that is like mission impossible. That would require like 4 1st round pick which we do not have. That’s why I said in my earlier post, we need a miracle from Cam.
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Post by jabronie10 on Oct 25, 2023 21:47:21 GMT -4
Are we in agreement that “IF” Luneau comes back that is priority number one, 2 20 year old forwards are a must and maybe another stronger F also. It’s go all in or trade Dumais and Furlong at Xmas Tonight’s game was the D trying not to make mistakes because of who was in nets, and it turned out to be the exact opposite. That D need to just be better!!!! And that’s it. I’s becoming obvious that we need those 3 players or equivalent, but that is like mission impossible. That would require like 4 1st round pick which we do not have. That’s why I said in my earlier post, we need a miracle from Cam. Futures will play a big part of getting players as our assets aren’t overly great. Cataford, MacKinnon, Phillips, Vidicek and even Rousseau. Now not all of them will be needed but definitely 2-3 plus picks will be. I’m all for going all in as I don’t want to waste this opportunity like they did in 2019. All they needed was Teasdale and nothing else at the deadline and they let the one team get him who beat the Moose in Q final and Memorial Cup Final
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Post by canbeer on Oct 25, 2023 21:47:38 GMT -4
Are we in agreement that “IF” Luneau comes back that is priority number one, 2 20 year old forwards are a must and maybe another stronger F also. It’s go all in or trade Dumais and Furlong at Xmas Tonight’s game was the D trying not to make mistakes because of who was in nets, and it turned out to be the exact opposite. That D need to just be better!!!! And that’s it. In my head I have Luneau as a bit of a wildcard this year. I figure he returns and I imagine Cam makes that call. I don’t think priority number one is really the right way to put it but he would be the biggest addition. But if it was adding Luneau and keeping our forwards or upgrade the forwards and keep our D… priority one would be forwards.
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Post by canbeer on Oct 25, 2023 22:11:29 GMT -4
This seems like a bit of an overreaction on the D play tonight. We had 7 D tonight and unfortunately our 7th guy, rookie D was on for 3 goals against and somewhat caught in no man’s land for at least two of them… it can happen, pairs were in a blender and the forwards could have tightened up the back checking. Goal one, Cataford skates right past Loshing and he walks in all alone. The mistakes were a team effort.
While not a perfect night from Mackenzie, he actually looked very dangerous offensively, made a nice play and pass on the 4th goal and I believe hit the crossbar twice.
Nice to see Ponzetto end up with one, seemed like it was coming. And Levesque, 6 shots and all over the game… a nice assist and a nice follow up effort to score his 7th.
19 year old D with a nice goal… and 3 goals from the forwards, all 17 year olds.
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Post by hfxfan2002 on Oct 25, 2023 23:33:38 GMT -4
MacKenzie seems to have a lot of offensive upside to his game, his defensive game though stinks. They tested him on the PP today didn’t really work out, but definitely nearly buried a few.
Moncton looks pretty decent, Caleb Desnoyers couldn’t win a single draw on Mathieu Cataford though. Caleb has a bright future in the league, and man Yoan Loshing is deadly, wait until he’s a 20 in 2024-25 sheesh.
Reece Peitzsche really needs to work on the drop passes, though Liam Kilfoil has it nailed down, beautiful play on creating the Ponzetto disallowed offside goal.
Levesque had a good game, Dumais was pretty quiet, maybe not the chemistry I expected. Dumais kind of stops and starts a lot and does a lot of chip puck plays, his passes were getting denied all game. Oscar Plandowski was excellent.
I tried getting more info on Julius Sumpf, I guess he was a free agent invite? German/Canadian citizenship, surprised he fell under the radar. Moncton’s good in that scouting department also have Swiss/Canada Citizenship player Miles Muller.
Hope Rooster is back on Friday, hard to blame the new kid, still made a lot of saves but still very frustrating. I can’t count how many times we’ve scored a goal and then the opposing team comes back the other way and scores while Ian Robinson is still calling the previous goal. Very frustrating.
Halifax doesn’t have an easy league and division like last year, the roster pool is pretty even this season, going to be a lot of really tough battles.
Hard game to watch today but we’ll get ‘em back this weekend, taking a break from the boys until the 12th but hope we do good.
Go Moose Go.
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Post by statsman18 on Oct 26, 2023 3:27:23 GMT -4
D sure wasn’t great but that’s not what lost this game. Milner is not a Q caliber goalie. He is bad and to be honest he’s lucky Moncton aim was off a bit tonight. I think they had 5 post and Jack didn’t even flinch on any of them because he was so lost out there. He’s got to go. We have a Good team, not Strong and not Great, so those kind of games will happen a lot if the team stays like that. We have too many holes. Having two great goalies will be impossible. So if something would happen to Rousseau, we better close the shop and sell our top assets rather than just try with what we have. I can’t believe that the team will stay like that, but I know our assets for trade are very limited. I’m hoping for some miracle from Cam, but my hope are not high. Look I’m not saying they need to top notch goalies. Never said that at all. I said Milner isn’t a Q caliber goalie. He’s not he is proving it every time he’s out there. He’s the reason we lost period. A backup goalies job is to give your team a chance to win. He hasn’t done that yet. Twice the team comes back and they tie it up get some momentum what happens? The next scoring play Moncton scores with ease. Then how many shots did he flat out look shaky? I lost count. Honestly I’d rather Brady James than Milner. Brady lost the starting job but he also didn’t have the defence they have now infront of him. Don’t come and say those games happen when he’s in net. He has never shown he’s is a Q caliber goalie. How come other teams are capable of find Ontario free agent goalies and we can’t?
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Post by bois on Oct 26, 2023 7:06:12 GMT -4
We have a Good team, not Strong and not Great, so those kind of games will happen a lot if the team stays like that. We have too many holes. Having two great goalies will be impossible. So if something would happen to Rousseau, we better close the shop and sell our top assets rather than just try with what we have. I can’t believe that the team will stay like that, but I know our assets for trade are very limited. I’m hoping for some miracle from Cam, but my hope are not high. Look I’m not saying they need to top notch goalies. Never said that at all. I said Milner isn’t a Q caliber goalie. He’s not he is proving it every time he’s out there. He’s the reason we lost period. A backup goalies job is to give your team a chance to win. He hasn’t done that yet. Twice the team comes back and they tie it up get some momentum what happens? The next scoring play Moncton scores with ease. Then how many shots did he flat out look shaky? I lost count. Honestly I’d rather Brady James than Milner. Brady lost the starting job but he also didn’t have the defence they have now infront of him. Don’t come and say those games happen when he’s in net. He has never shown he’s is a Q caliber goalie. How come other teams are capable of find Ontario free agent goalies and we can’t? who did Brady have in front of him last year then if he didnt have this defense core in front of him? It's essentially the exact same core
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Post by howitzer on Oct 26, 2023 7:31:33 GMT -4
Look I’m not saying they need to top notch goalies. Never said that at all. I said Milner isn’t a Q caliber goalie. He’s not he is proving it every time he’s out there. He’s the reason we lost period. A backup goalies job is to give your team a chance to win. He hasn’t done that yet. Twice the team comes back and they tie it up get some momentum what happens? The next scoring play Moncton scores with ease. Then how many shots did he flat out look shaky? I lost count. Honestly I’d rather Brady James than Milner. Brady lost the starting job but he also didn’t have the defence they have now infront of him. Don’t come and say those games happen when he’s in net. He has never shown he’s is a Q caliber goalie. How come other teams are capable of find Ontario free agent goalies and we can’t? who did Brady have in front of him last year then if he didnt have this defense core in front of him? It's essentially the exact same core Same core yes, but older, more experienced. Not sure what Cam will do. They have to have confidence in a backup. Yet resources are thin to waste anything on a backup. Will they give Madgett a look?
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Post by Citris on Oct 26, 2023 8:21:23 GMT -4
Thinking out loud- the mooseheads did hire an an Ontario region scout. I'm pretty su Ure this is the first time they've had that on payroll.
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Post by Herd Fan on Oct 26, 2023 9:52:30 GMT -4
Watching the game last night is hard to point the finger at any one person or unit. Seemed like everyone was making waaaaaay to many mistakes. No question Milner in net poses a different mind set for the players in front of him when playing. Furlong for example I believe was trying to do too much himself and was awful. Turnover after turnover and he ended up benched in the 2nd I believe. But would have he tried as hard as he did if Rousseau was in net? I'm not so sure. Mackenzie our 7th was caught on a few out of position but he seems more interested in getting points. Paid the price for it as a consequence. I am sure the coaches will nip that in the bud. But the forwards were not playing as defensively sound as they should have either. Seemed like tons of odd man rushes last night. I really dont think after this performance by the D specifically, do we need to panic. Moncton is a great team and even with Milner in net, 5-4 game is respectable against one of the better teams in the league. Stay the course and see if we can get back on track against Islanders and Titan.
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Post by Citris on Oct 26, 2023 10:16:28 GMT -4
Watching the game last night is hard to point the finger at any one person or unit. Seemed like everyone was making waaaaaay to many mistakes. No question Milner in net poses a different mind set for the players in front of him when playing. Furlong for example I believe was trying to do too much himself and was awful. Turnover after turnover and he ended up benched in the 2nd I believe. But would have he tried as hard as he did if Rousseau was in net? I'm not so sure. Mackenzie our 7th was caught on a few out of position but he seems more interested in getting points. Paid the price for it as a consequence. I am sure the coaches will nip that in the bud. But the forwards were not playing as defensively sound as they should have either. Seemed like tons of odd man rushes last night. I really dont think after this performance by the D specifically, do we need to panic. Moncton is a great team and even with Milner in net, 5-4 game is respectable against one of the better teams in the league. Stay the course and see if we can get back on track against Islanders and Titan. I find this is a carryover problem for last year - for whatever reason, the team plays better in front of Rousseau, like, goaltending aside it's like they work harder... or at least smarter for him. Rousseau gives you saves that Milner or James wouldn't, but even beyond that, they don't play as sloppily defensively in front of him.
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Post by mooseman89 on Oct 26, 2023 10:36:57 GMT -4
Rousseau being out with an illness makes me think that there are other guys in that lineup last night that are battling a bug as well... a least I hope so. That was a completely different team than we seen against Rouyn Noranda. If the Mooseheads would have played the Huskies like they played the Wildcats last night, they would have been absolutely steamrolled.
I understand people are going to blame Milner and I agree that the D and forwards play with more confidence when they have Rousseau in nets but even MacPhee and MacKinnon last night, they hardly engaged in there typical physical nature. I did see 1 or 2 shifts later in the game when they made an attempt at a rougher style but it just seemed that all night they were getting the puck, trying to open some ice to make a pass and getting rid of it.
Dumais also took a step back from his performance with Rouyn Noranda against Val-d'or and I would say another step back last night.
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Post by statsman18 on Oct 26, 2023 11:04:33 GMT -4
Look I’m not saying they need to top notch goalies. Never said that at all. I said Milner isn’t a Q caliber goalie. He’s not he is proving it every time he’s out there. He’s the reason we lost period. A backup goalies job is to give your team a chance to win. He hasn’t done that yet. Twice the team comes back and they tie it up get some momentum what happens? The next scoring play Moncton scores with ease. Then how many shots did he flat out look shaky? I lost count. Honestly I’d rather Brady James than Milner. Brady lost the starting job but he also didn’t have the defence they have now infront of him. Don’t come and say those games happen when he’s in net. He has never shown he’s is a Q caliber goalie. How come other teams are capable of find Ontario free agent goalies and we can’t? who did Brady have in front of him last year then if he didnt have this defense core in front of him? It's essentially the exact same core Brady actually lost the starting Job In the 2022 playoffs. 3 of those guys are still here but they are all 2 years older.
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