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Post by coleminer on Feb 11, 2024 11:32:18 GMT -4
These are extremely cheap companies that will eat at the trough of government subsidies, but continue to let people go. This week won't be the last of it, there is always next year.  Looks like one is gone from the CB Bureau. One less person to tell CB stories. You are much safer calling play by play for QMJHL teams.  |
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Post by Mika on Feb 12, 2024 10:12:01 GMT -4
Considering I just finished my application and fully intend on taking the journalism course at Holland College, this is definitely a bit of a scary mass firing. I'm aiming for PR though as a job.
Bell is just a shitty company though, not the first mass firing they've done and it won't be the last. But hey, they'll have that day where they'll pretend to care about mental health to get that sweet sweet tax write-off.
It's sad to see, a lot of quality news being taken away so the CEO and shareholders can get more money. It also highlights the need for things like PBS, BBC, and CBC as public access alternatives for news.
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Post by puckstopper on Feb 12, 2024 10:42:08 GMT -4
If I was a betting man I expect cuts to hit cbc soon as well. It’s hard to tell what is going to happen next. I’m the maritimes there is not much out there for work in this world. You could start at Eastlink but they want volunteers to start.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 12, 2024 10:59:17 GMT -4
Rogers is also going through a layoff round.
Cord cutting it real.
A complete lack of spending on news and journalism is real.
Bell has offered Kyle a job in Halifax. They just have no need for 2 CB reporters and as a CB resident I can't argue with that. In fact i'd argue that if the Island does have 2 reporters 1 should be based out of the Western side.
Once Live at 5 came to an end there's a lot less local reporting needed. Take out the "3 kids with a lemonade stand" stories and only focus on real news and this is a pretty laid back community where not a lot happens. For the odd time there's huge things going on you can send down a secondary resource.
Job losses suck. But if people won't pay for cable or local newspapers and want to cry about federal government media subsidies, this is the end result.
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Post by puckstopper on Feb 12, 2024 12:39:16 GMT -4
Yes I saw cbc go through cuts a few years ago. I get trying to cut cost but if it effects the product is it worth it. It’s like paying for the CHL games. Some teams (very few) do a good job on the stream I anm sure they pay for real staff and others do a terrible job as they do it cheap with kids. If you go cheap and cut news how do you expect people to watch
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 12, 2024 12:55:00 GMT -4
Yes I saw cbc go through cuts a few years ago. I get trying to cut cost but if it effects the product is it worth it. It’s like paying for the CHL games. Some teams (very few) do a good job on the stream I anm sure they pay for real staff and others do a terrible job as they do it cheap with kids. If you go cheap and cut news how do you expect people to watch Here is the other side of that argument: If you only expect the news for free how good can you expect the content to be? People don't want to admit that there's a lot of negative to the streaming world. I know people who will tell me they can't afford cable. But have every streaming service. Which is fine as long as you only expect your media content to come from Netflix, Amazon, Disney, Paramount, and Apple. But you can't somehow also expect local news coverage to not take a hit when every metric points to less money, viewers, and advertising dollars because that $7 they used to get from a household via a cable bill now goes to streaming services and zero local, regional, provincial, or national benefits from the money being spent. People think its some "gotcha" moment to the government and big corporations but the death of local news and content is 100% due to the decisions of the public when it comes to choosing what form of media to ingest and how. |
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Post by coleminer on Feb 12, 2024 17:56:39 GMT -4
Well my original point is, calling QMJHL puck > CTV jobs. Bell is in this weird thing, we know the media business is dying, but Bell are huge advocates for mental health. It is no secret job losses or fear of job losses take a big toll on mental health. So they are kind of in a bind, promoting mental health but likely causing these very issues with a lot of staff. Advocate for mental health, so long as it isn’t someone within Bell with issues, then tough luck. |
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Post by hfxfan09 on Feb 12, 2024 21:56:07 GMT -4
Technology, papers are getting thinner; you used to be able to read 3-4 articles a month on the Halifax herald for free and now you have to pay for everything. News is dying because of smartphones and TV's.
Just think about things the next generation won't know about DVD's/CD's, maps in a car, flip phones, Commercials.
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Post by Mika on Feb 13, 2024 9:30:44 GMT -4
Well my original point is, calling QMJHL puck > CTV jobs. Bell is in this weird thing, we know the media business is dying, but Bell are huge advocates for mental health. It is no secret job losses or fear of job losses take a big toll on mental health. So they are kind of in a bind, promoting mental health but likely causing these very issues with a lot of staff. Advocate for mental health, so long as it isn’t someone within Bell with issues, then tough luck. Except it isn't. People who have adapted to the changes in technology and the popularity of the internet are having success. CBC is what it is, it's funded by the government to provide free news to Canadians but more specifically those who might not be able to afford things like a newspaper subscription. CTV News was always decent but could've been better. They probably didn't need a 24/7 channel, given they loop the same stories every half-hour. Hard to even call newspapers a dying industry too when some of the bigger papers are still doing fairly well. They just need to utilize their website and subscription services better. Hiding things like urgent news or obituaries behind a paywall isn't the way to do it. Also no, Bell isn't an advocate of mental health, they're an advocate of "give us that donation money and attention while we get the sweet sweet tax break from it". They are in it for money and every decision they make is with the intent of making the CEO or shareholders richer. Don't fool yourself because of their half-assed mental health campaign. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Feb 13, 2024 9:47:52 GMT -4
Well my original point is, calling QMJHL puck > CTV jobs. Bell is in this weird thing, we know the media business is dying, but Bell are huge advocates for mental health. It is no secret job losses or fear of job losses take a big toll on mental health. So they are kind of in a bind, promoting mental health but likely causing these very issues with a lot of staff. Advocate for mental health, so long as it isn’t someone within Bell with issues, then tough luck. Except it isn't. People who have adapted to the changes in technology and the popularity of the internet are having success. CBC is what it is, it's funded by the government to provide free news to Canadians but more specifically those who might not be able to afford things like a newspaper subscription. CTV News was always decent but could've been better. They probably didn't need a 24/7 channel, given they loop the same stories every half-hour. Hard to even call newspapers a dying industry too when some of the bigger papers are still doing fairly well. They just need to utilize their website and subscription services better. Hiding things like urgent news or obituaries behind a paywall isn't the way to do it. Also no, Bell isn't an advocate of mental health, they're an advocate of "give us that donation money and attention while we get the sweet sweet tax break from it". They are in it for money and every decision they make is with the intent of making the CEO or shareholders richer. Don't fool yourself because of their half-assed mental health campaign. You can hate on Bell all you want for the layoffs and other things they do but let’s not minimize the fact they have donated about $10 million per year to mental health. Is it for PR and a tax break? Obviously. Just like every other company who does these things. They aren’t doing it out of the kindness of their heart, it’s about business. It doesn’t change the fact that they’ve donated a lot of money. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 13, 2024 9:50:31 GMT -4
Well my original point is, calling QMJHL puck > CTV jobs. Bell is in this weird thing, we know the media business is dying, but Bell are huge advocates for mental health. It is no secret job losses or fear of job losses take a big toll on mental health. So they are kind of in a bind, promoting mental health but likely causing these very issues with a lot of staff. Advocate for mental health, so long as it isn’t someone within Bell with issues, then tough luck. Yes, we know your point. It also contains no context outside of job security of completely random professions. The backshift guy at my local convenience store has worked there for a decade. Doesn't mean that store clerk should be a desired professional over reporter. What do both jobs pay? What are the responsibilities of each? Is a QMJHL job not potentially at risk every time there's a front office overhaul? There's people at Bell who have been there for 20 and 30+ years. Your comment is based on a 10% layoff...and assumes that nobody in the Q loses their job for the same reasons. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 13, 2024 9:53:33 GMT -4
Well my original point is, calling QMJHL puck > CTV jobs. Bell is in this weird thing, we know the media business is dying, but Bell are huge advocates for mental health. It is no secret job losses or fear of job losses take a big toll on mental health. So they are kind of in a bind, promoting mental health but likely causing these very issues with a lot of staff. Advocate for mental health, so long as it isn’t someone within Bell with issues, then tough luck. Except it isn't. People who have adapted to the changes in technology and the popularity of the internet are having success. CBC is what it is, it's funded by the government to provide free news to Canadians but more specifically those who might not be able to afford things like a newspaper subscription. CTV News was always decent but could've been better. They probably didn't need a 24/7 channel, given they loop the same stories every half-hour. Hard to even call newspapers a dying industry too when some of the bigger papers are still doing fairly well. They just need to utilize their website and subscription services better. Hiding things like urgent news or obituaries behind a paywall isn't the way to do it. Also no, Bell isn't an advocate of mental health, they're an advocate of "give us that donation money and attention while we get the sweet sweet tax break from it". They are in it for money and every decision they make is with the intent of making the CEO or shareholders richer. Don't fool yourself because of their half-assed mental health campaign. Its not hard to call it a dying industry. It 100% is dying. People don't want to pay for news or the channels news is delivered on. If we go back 40 years I would say a large % of homes bought newspapers and had what was considered basic cable with the major networks. Now people are cord cutters only buying streaming services and get news from tik tok and social media. There's never been a more volatile time in the media industry. Tech makes delivery easier (for some) but it also makes people believe they don't need to pay for news. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 13, 2024 9:57:16 GMT -4
Except it isn't. People who have adapted to the changes in technology and the popularity of the internet are having success. CBC is what it is, it's funded by the government to provide free news to Canadians but more specifically those who might not be able to afford things like a newspaper subscription. CTV News was always decent but could've been better. They probably didn't need a 24/7 channel, given they loop the same stories every half-hour. Hard to even call newspapers a dying industry too when some of the bigger papers are still doing fairly well. They just need to utilize their website and subscription services better. Hiding things like urgent news or obituaries behind a paywall isn't the way to do it. Also no, Bell isn't an advocate of mental health, they're an advocate of "give us that donation money and attention while we get the sweet sweet tax break from it". They are in it for money and every decision they make is with the intent of making the CEO or shareholders richer. Don't fool yourself because of their half-assed mental health campaign. You can hate on Bell all you want for the layoffs and other things they do but let’s not minimize the fact they have donated about $10 million per year to mental health. Is it for PR and a tax break? Obviously. Just like every other company who does these things. They aren’t doing it out of the kindness of their heart, it’s about business. It doesn’t change the fact that they’ve donated a lot of money. They'd be wise to move the mental health talk to a different time of year so it didn't constantly collide with layoffs. I know they're trying to play up the seasonal depression aspect but doing it in summer/fall would be better timing. But people are fooling themselves if they think these media companies are not in trouble. I can look at 10 peer's around my age and see that 8 or more pay $0 for cable and news media combined. As compared to my grandparents generation when it was the complete opposite. Its amazing to me more local news and newspapers haven't died off yet. |
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Post by robichaud on Feb 13, 2024 16:15:49 GMT -4
Yes I saw cbc go through cuts a few years ago. I get trying to cut cost but if it effects the product is it worth it. It’s like paying for the CHL games. Some teams (very few) do a good job on the stream I anm sure they pay for real staff and others do a terrible job as they do it cheap with kids. If you go cheap and cut news how do you expect people to watch Next round of cuts have been announced at CBC/Radio-Canada... to the hight of 10% which means 125$ million in budget pressures. That's about 600 jobs to which is added around 200 vacancies to go unfilled. TVA also went through massive cuts last fall. |
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Post by Smiley on Feb 14, 2024 1:14:40 GMT -4
Except it isn't. People who have adapted to the changes in technology and the popularity of the internet are having success. CBC is what it is, it's funded by the government to provide free news to Canadians but more specifically those who might not be able to afford things like a newspaper subscription. CTV News was always decent but could've been better. They probably didn't need a 24/7 channel, given they loop the same stories every half-hour. Hard to even call newspapers a dying industry too when some of the bigger papers are still doing fairly well. They just need to utilize their website and subscription services better. Hiding things like urgent news or obituaries behind a paywall isn't the way to do it. Also no, Bell isn't an advocate of mental health, they're an advocate of "give us that donation money and attention while we get the sweet sweet tax break from it". They are in it for money and every decision they make is with the intent of making the CEO or shareholders richer. Don't fool yourself because of their half-assed mental health campaign. Its not hard to call it a dying industry. It 100% is dying. People don't want to pay for news or the channels news is delivered on. If we go back 40 years I would say a large % of homes bought newspapers and had what was considered basic cable with the major networks. Now people are cord cutters only buying streaming services and get news from tik tok and social media. There's never been a more volatile time in the media industry. Tech makes delivery easier (for some) but it also makes people believe they don't need to pay for news. It’s not the cord cutters that is the issue, it’s the Ad dollars. In the past if I wanted to market my product I had to run media in newspapers and on TV. Today, those are the worst channels to get return on your ad spend. It’s now focused on Search, Display, and Retail Media networks. These channels and tactics bring me closer to the end consumer and provide higher ROAS (return on ad spend). It will be tough for print to combat this. But big players like Bell, CBC, Roger’s can. They need to pivot to CTV and provide compelling programs tied to audience data and your connected TV. Amazon is killing this area with their move into football, but Roku is also ramping this up big time with some high profile hires. |
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Looks like one is gone from the CB Bureau. One less person to tell CB stories. You are much safer calling play by play for QMJHL teams.
