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Post by coleminer on Mar 16, 2024 10:08:00 GMT -4
With the possibility Saltwire goes tits up: There is the possibility one of these publications opens up after as a shell of itself. IE Halifax Herald continues on.
Will there be QMJHL coverage once everything is resolved with Saltwire? We can argue, the best of them these days is Jeremy Fraser, he is willing to stick it to the Eagles. But often the Saltwire reporters don't break news, but release news in conjunction with the teams, which is a joke. But anyway, as a Mooseheads fan, I don't want to have to rely on former sports media broadcaster and Mooseheads PR guy, Scott MacIntosh, for Mooseheads news. Although sadly, that is the case anyway, because no news is being broken at Saltwire these days. Sad times if all we have is former sports media broadcaster, Scott MacIntosh and the equivalents for the Islanders and Eagles.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Mar 16, 2024 15:07:28 GMT -4
With the possibility Saltwire goes tits up: There is the possibility one of these publications opens up after as a shell of itself. IE Halifax Herald continues on. Will there be QMJHL coverage once everything is resolved with Saltwire? We can argue, the best of them these days is Jeremy Fraser, he is willing to stick it to the Eagles. But often the Saltwire reporters don't break news, but release news in conjunction with the teams, which is a joke. But anyway, as a Mooseheads fan, I don't want to have to rely on former sports media broadcaster and Mooseheads PR guy, Scott MacIntosh, for Mooseheads news. Although sadly, that is the case anyway, because no news is being broken at Saltwire these days. Sad times if all we have is former sports media broadcaster, Scott MacIntosh and the equivalents for the Islanders and Eagles. All these news organizations are shrinking in size of local presence. Effecting all facets of local life - not just sports teams. Reality is that media is very fragmented now so that nobody is really full time in the impartial for hire space. Blogs and social media have cut into their revenues and stolen audience. One of the reason teams all run their own social media is to keep up because there will not be a CTV CBC Global or Herald outside the door to carry any story. Those days are gone or dying fast. And so you will get the best spin. Look at the cuts in media. Whole communities loss of reporters for major networks - reports being filed from studios hours away. Networks like Global deliver your news from Toronto and pretend they are local. This is the tip of the iceberg. Local interest news and community news is not being collected efficiently with one reliable source anymore. Even in medium size cities like Halifax. |
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Post by coleminer on Mar 16, 2024 15:14:17 GMT -4
All these things you said are true. However, you have guys in Quebec actually breaking QMJHL news. But yeah, I expect even if there is a local QMJHL 'reporter' when the Saltwire dust settles, they won't be breaking any news. So sad. I really don't want to use the former sports journalist and presently a PR guy as my source. That would suck.
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Post by Mika on Mar 18, 2024 12:26:36 GMT -4
I hope something gets figured out. Local news isn't any less important than national or international news. It's a shame that Saltwire made the mistakes they did and never adapted to the modern age with media. On the other side, it's a shame that the consumers shot down the idea of a paywall for news. I personally never had an issue with it, it makes sense; no money, no reporting. It costs money to do that kind of work.
There's just so many issues at play when it comes to this situation.
It's funny given I'm going to school to work in PR, but your news should never be based solely on what a PR manager says. A bit of investigation can go a long way when writing articles.
As for Quebec having reporters break QMJHL news, yes they do have that, but those same people are the ones spreading false rumours about the Maritime teams and complaining at a minor name change for the league. I don't really know what to think on that one other than a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Mar 19, 2024 15:33:53 GMT -4
The Quebec communities will continue to have good news and sports coverage because of the language and thirst to keep that alive. That's once place that local will always compete against the world wide web. There just isn't alternative French language competition.
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Post by captainjak on Apr 3, 2024 9:08:13 GMT -4
But often the Saltwire reporters don't break news, but release news in conjunction with the teams, which is a joke. If this is all reporters intend to do, they should fail. Just do it sooner so someone else can step in and do it right. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 3, 2024 9:14:49 GMT -4
But often the Saltwire reporters don't break news, but release news in conjunction with the teams, which is a joke. If this is all reporters intend to do, they should fail. Just do it sooner so someone else can step in and do it right. Thats all reporters have been doing for like 15+ years now. But they're just following orders from above. Don't paint the neighbourhood team in a negative slant or we risk them cutting off access and advertising dollars seems to be the threat. These "journalists" have mostly become extensions of the PR departments of the teams they cover. Some can give excellent history lessons. But you get almost no criticms whether its constructive or not. |
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Post by Mika on Apr 3, 2024 9:31:36 GMT -4
If this is all reporters intend to do, they should fail. Just do it sooner so someone else can step in and do it right. Thats all reporters have been doing for like 15+ years now. But they're just following orders from above. Don't paint the neighbourhood team in a negative slant or we risk them cutting off access and advertising dollars seems to be the threat. These "journalists" have mostly become extensions of the PR departments of the teams they cover. Some can give excellent history lessons. But you get almost no criticms whether its constructive or not. I don't have much of an issue with that though. I would fully expect in any league the local media try to put a positive spin on the teams that share a community with them. Where I have an issue with that is when Eastlink broadcasts a game. They are supposed to be a neutral party in their broadcast but it's quite obvious that Halifax is their team and Charlottetown and Cape Breton are distant seconds. Though I have plenty of other issues with their broadcast. I expect a positive spin though in the newspaper and any other media coverage though. Though when I was in J-school the first time, the few hours I had to cover an Islanders game, they weren't my team. I treated the game like any national coverage should be. I tried to be impartial and call the games for what they were. It's tough, you grow up or live with them as your team, it can be hard to set aside those feelings to properly cover them. Feature stories are a different beast though. You get a little more freedom in letting your team be your team. Future jobs and stories play a big role too though. Look at that guy in New York, the troll looking guy who goes out of his way to bash the Rangers. If he toned that back, he'd get better answers out of players and coaches. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 3, 2024 9:43:28 GMT -4
Thats all reporters have been doing for like 15+ years now. But they're just following orders from above. Don't paint the neighbourhood team in a negative slant or we risk them cutting off access and advertising dollars seems to be the threat. These "journalists" have mostly become extensions of the PR departments of the teams they cover. Some can give excellent history lessons. But you get almost no criticms whether its constructive or not. I don't have much of an issue with that though. I would fully expect in any league the local media try to put a positive spin on the teams that share a community with them. Where I have an issue with that is when Eastlink broadcasts a game. They are supposed to be a neutral party in their broadcast but it's quite obvious that Halifax is their team and Charlottetown and Cape Breton are distant seconds. Though I have plenty of other issues with their broadcast. I expect a positive spin though in the newspaper and any other media coverage though. Though when I was in J-school the first time, the few hours I had to cover an Islanders game, they weren't my team. I treated the game like any national coverage should be. I tried to be impartial and call the games for what they were. It's tough, you grow up or live with them as your team, it can be hard to set aside those feelings to properly cover them. Feature stories are a different beast though. You get a little more freedom in letting your team be your team. Future jobs and stories play a big role too though. Look at that guy in New York, the troll looking guy who goes out of his way to bash the Rangers. If he toned that back, he'd get better answers out of players and coaches. I have a huge issue with an industry thats supposed to have no bias and report both news and opinion in order to attract readers taking a stand that with local teams there will be no criticism even when its deserved and not doing so actually paints an unfair picture to supporters feeling like the real story isn't being told and in an industry where they're crying that younger people don't use their medium to stay up to date on community events. Where do we draw that line? Maybe rich people who do bad things should also be excluded from local media coverage. Once you start drawing lines around coverage based on who can benefit or hurt your product you're no longer journalists. Are you saying Larry Brooks shouldn't say bad things about the original 6 team in the NHL's biggest media market that has won 1 championship in the last 82 years? And that people like Torts respect any media and give honest answers to those who watch what they write about him? I disagree in both instances. Without the media in certain markets there's literally no accountability to some of these teams and how they operate. The issue is the lack of negative media in markets like Arizona and Columbus. Not that Larry Brooks and Steve Simmons and Jack Todd exist. You can disagree with any 1 thing those journalists may report or say but you need people in the media who don't just report on facts and figures. |
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Post by coleminer on Apr 3, 2024 21:11:31 GMT -4
Thats all reporters have been doing for like 15+ years now. But they're just following orders from above. Don't paint the neighbourhood team in a negative slant or we risk them cutting off access and advertising dollars seems to be the threat. These "journalists" have mostly become extensions of the PR departments of the teams they cover. Some can give excellent history lessons. But you get almost no criticms whether its constructive or not. I don't have much of an issue with that though. I would fully expect in any league the local media try to put a positive spin on the teams that share a community with them. Where I have an issue with that is when Eastlink broadcasts a game. They are supposed to be a neutral party in their broadcast but it's quite obvious that Halifax is their team and Charlottetown and Cape Breton are distant seconds. Though I have plenty of other issues with their broadcast. I expect a positive spin though in the newspaper and any other media coverage though. Though when I was in J-school the first time, the few hours I had to cover an Islanders game, they weren't my team. I treated the game like any national coverage should be. I tried to be impartial and call the games for what they were. It's tough, you grow up or live with them as your team, it can be hard to set aside those feelings to properly cover them. Feature stories are a different beast though. You get a little more freedom in letting your team be your team. Future jobs and stories play a big role too though. Look at that guy in New York, the troll looking guy who goes out of his way to bash the Rangers. If he toned that back, he'd get better answers out of players and coaches. Read any Halifax Herald article from 1994 - 2015 or so on the Mooseheads. It was much more informative. Once the Quebec based twitter accounts came online and broke trades, the Herald became a joke, reporting the trade in conjunction with the team. Also, they report a lot less info in general on the team. I know industry trends are to not discuss injuries at all, but there seems to be a lost connection. They didn't even try to break news anymore. Sad times. |
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Post by media1insider on Apr 6, 2024 19:30:30 GMT -4
While I do agree with almost every comment related to this topic, I do not agree with the assessment that Eastlink Community TV is biased toward the Halifax Mooseheads. Their regular season schedule is divided as equally as possible, and in the playoffs, whatever team goes the farthest is the team that will get the bulk of their coverage.
During the Islanders run, Eastlink was backing Jim and the Islanders the entire way.
Eastlink wants nothing more than to have a semi-final between two of our partner teams it just hasn't worked out that way.
Also, Mavs and Dave call Eagles games - they are both from Sydney, and they certainly do not have a bias towards Halifax. In PEI, Matt and Mike call the games and are Islanders through-and-through so again, no bias towards Halifax. It may look that way because the Mooseheads had success last season and Eastlink covered all of their playoff games but I can guarantee you that there is definitely not a Halifax bias.
As for "other issues with their broadcast" please list your concern(s)... these can be passed along. Personally, I think their productions are top-notch but constructive feedback is a great way to improve the product and the playoffs is the best time to do this.
GO EAGLES!
PS - Games 1 and 2 of Round 2 - Live on Eastlink Community TV and a lot more to follow... stay tuned.
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Post by captainjak on Apr 16, 2024 13:50:58 GMT -4
While I do agree with almost every comment related to this topic, I do not agree with the assessment that Eastlink Community TV is biased toward the Halifax Mooseheads. Their regular season schedule is divided as equally as possible, and in the playoffs, whatever team goes the farthest is the team that will get the bulk of their coverage. During the Islanders run, Eastlink was backing Jim and the Islanders the entire way. Eastlink wants nothing more than to have a semi-final between two of our partner teams it just hasn't worked out that way. Also, Mavs and Dave call Eagles games - they are both from Sydney, and they certainly do not have a bias towards Halifax. In PEI, Matt and Mike call the games and are Islanders through-and-through so again, no bias towards Halifax. It may look that way because the Mooseheads had success last season and Eastlink covered all of their playoff games but I can guarantee you that there is definitely not a Halifax bias. As for "other issues with their broadcast" please list your concern(s)... these can be passed along. Personally, I think their productions are top-notch but constructive feedback is a great way to improve the product and the playoffs is the best time to do this. GO EAGLES! PS - Games 1 and 2 of Round 2 - Live on Eastlink Community TV and a lot more to follow... stay tuned. Can you bring in announcers that aren't yes men? Someone who will call it like they see it. The entire Eastlink crew are merely extensions of the teams. |
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Post by bois on Apr 16, 2024 14:21:22 GMT -4
While I do agree with almost every comment related to this topic, I do not agree with the assessment that Eastlink Community TV is biased toward the Halifax Mooseheads. Their regular season schedule is divided as equally as possible, and in the playoffs, whatever team goes the farthest is the team that will get the bulk of their coverage. During the Islanders run, Eastlink was backing Jim and the Islanders the entire way. Eastlink wants nothing more than to have a semi-final between two of our partner teams it just hasn't worked out that way. Also, Mavs and Dave call Eagles games - they are both from Sydney, and they certainly do not have a bias towards Halifax. In PEI, Matt and Mike call the games and are Islanders through-and-through so again, no bias towards Halifax. It may look that way because the Mooseheads had success last season and Eastlink covered all of their playoff games but I can guarantee you that there is definitely not a Halifax bias. As for "other issues with their broadcast" please list your concern(s)... these can be passed along. Personally, I think their productions are top-notch but constructive feedback is a great way to improve the product and the playoffs is the best time to do this. GO EAGLES! PS - Games 1 and 2 of Round 2 - Live on Eastlink Community TV and a lot more to follow... stay tuned. Can you bring in announcers that aren't yes men? Someone who will call it like they see it. The entire Eastlink crew are merely extensions of the teams. why not be thankful for the coverage we get? |
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