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Fleury
Oct 17, 2007 21:27:33 GMT -4
Post by Penguins23® on Oct 17, 2007 21:27:33 GMT -4
Well someone is bound to start a thread on this guy sooner or later and who better then his biggest fan?
I'll be the first to admit, Marc-Andre Fleury has looked very shaky this year. I've seen every goal against him live except for the 4 Toronto goals but I saw the replays. He's had a lot of trouble handling rebounds(even more then usual) He's going down a lot when he shouldn't. I mean I know some of you may say "well he's getting beat by perfect over the shoulder shots" Well that's only because he's over f'in committing. Everyone and their dog knows he's going to go down so why not just always aim top corner blocker side. I didn't count but a large number of his goals against were exactly that or rebounds. Now don't get me wrong, I am definately not writing off the guy, I just think he took the summer too easy. I don't know if Meloche(Pens goalie coach) was too busy with his goalie camps but I think a good summer on ice training could have really helped him. It seems his two problems got worse, not better.
Sorry for the negativity, it's intermission time and this game has been very frustrating and I needed to get some of it out, even if it was to Fleury's expense.
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Fleury
Oct 18, 2007 17:03:40 GMT -4
Post by V on Oct 18, 2007 17:03:40 GMT -4
From what I've seen of Fleury on tape, he's doing very much the same thing that Christobal Huet was doing later last season when teams really started figuring him out. And it's exactly what you mentioned, over-committing or committing way too early. As far as M-A's rebound control, yeah, deeeeeeeefinitely needs to be worked on.
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 10:23:35 GMT -4
Post by Score on Oct 19, 2007 10:23:35 GMT -4
Penguins consider goaltending optionswww.tsn.ca/tsn_talent/columnists/bob_mckenzie/It would not be fair to say the Pittsburgh Penguins have had it with the netminding of Marc-Andre Fleury, but his early-season inconsistency certainly has them considering their options. Expectations are high in Pittsburgh. If they're going to take the next step in their evolution as a contender, they must get some big-time goaltending and Fleury has yet to provide it consistently. Back-up Dany Sabourin is apparently not the answer. So the word on the street is that gm ray shero is considering making a move. One option is to the roll the dice and sign a veteran free agent such as Curtis Joseph, to give Fleury a mentor, and have an option for occasions when Fleury isn't getting it done. But how good is Joseph at this stage of his career? The other option is to trade. Anaheim's Ilya Bryzgalov is available and so is Toronto's Andrew Raycroft, but he's likely too expensive for the Pens and he's having his own consistency issues. Montreal's Jaroslav Halak is talented but unproven and would the Canadiens even consider moving him to an eastern rival? The same could be said for Ottawa's Martin Gerber, who may become expendable at some point. A trade wouldn't necessarily spell the end of Fleury in Pittsburgh, but his no. 1 status in Pittsburgh may soon be challenged.
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 10:32:11 GMT -4
Post by bois on Oct 19, 2007 10:32:11 GMT -4
Gonna be interesting to see what happens goaltending wise... I think Joseph would actually be a good signing
I never understood why they took Sabourin in the first place to backup Fleury.. I woulda kept Thibeault
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 10:53:36 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 19, 2007 10:53:36 GMT -4
From what I've seen of Fleury on tape, he's doing very much the same thing that Christobal Huet was doing later last season when teams really started figuring him out. And it's exactly what you mentioned, over-committing or committing way too early. As far as M-A's rebound control, yeah, deeeeeeeefinitely needs to be worked on. If they "figured out" Huet why was he an all-star and playing great this year again?
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 11:09:10 GMT -4
Post by V on Oct 19, 2007 11:09:10 GMT -4
From what I've seen of Fleury on tape, he's doing very much the same thing that Christobal Huet was doing later last season when teams really started figuring him out. And it's exactly what you mentioned, over-committing or committing way too early. As far as M-A's rebound control, yeah, deeeeeeeefinitely needs to be worked on. If they "figured out" Huet why was he an all-star and playing great this year again? STARTED figuring him out. Down the stretch in 05/06 he had 7 shutouts in 21 games, and nobody could touch him. Last season, the book was out on him to a large extent and he started getting lit up a bit. Nowhere did I say he was useless or anything. Huet has changed his style a bit, he must have tinkered with it in the off-season, and the changes are paying off. He's not over-committing nearly as much as he did for a good portion of last season. And I never agreed with Huet being selected to the All-Star team that year, so I don't know where that relevance comes from. But this thread is about Fleury. I actually agree with bois where he said that Pittsburgh should have held on to Thibault. I really can't see them putting together much of a goaltending deal for anybody without giving an arm and a leg either financially or in the man-power, so maybe signing CuJo *is* their best bet.
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 11:12:50 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 19, 2007 11:12:50 GMT -4
If they "figured out" Huet why was he an all-star and playing great this year again? STARTED figuring him out. Down the stretch in 05/06 he had 7 shutouts in 21 games, and nobody could touch him. Last season, the book was out on him to a large extent and he started getting lit up a bit. Nowhere did I say he was useless or anything. Huet has changed his style a bit, he must have tinkered with it in the off-season, and the changes are paying off. He's not over-committing nearly as much as he did for a good portion of last season. And I never agreed with Huet being selected to the All-Star team that year, so I don't know where that relevance comes from. But this thread is about Fleury. I actually agree with bois where he said that Pittsburgh should have held on to Thibault. I really can't see them putting together much of a goaltending deal for anybody without giving an arm and a leg either financially or in the man-power, so maybe signing CuJo *is* their best bet. Not to drag this on, but Huet's problem last year was Souray stopped caring about his defense and Dandenault got too much ice time, hard to have great numbers with the way their defense played last year, like Toronto's high priced defense is playing this year.
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 11:14:28 GMT -4
Post by bois on Oct 19, 2007 11:14:28 GMT -4
Souray was never a good defenseman.. if he didnt get a bionic arm he would be making about 1 mil as a number 4 guy somewhere instead of cashing in huge and being hurt again
and Dandenault didn't get much icetime.. but yeah this thread was supposed to be about Fleury
so far he sucks
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 18:25:54 GMT -4
Post by Penguins23® on Oct 19, 2007 18:25:54 GMT -4
Go hijack another thread. Here I am giving you guys free shots at Fleury and you guys are talking about the f'in Habs. Fleury must be pretty damn good then huh?
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 18:41:31 GMT -4
Post by Score on Oct 19, 2007 18:41:31 GMT -4
Go hijack another thread. Here I am giving you guys free shots at Fleury and you guys are talking about the f'in Habs. Fleury must be pretty damn good then huh? As was pointed out a couple times in this thread.......Fleury is sucking ass.
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 18:45:50 GMT -4
Post by habh8er on Oct 19, 2007 18:45:50 GMT -4
Go hijack another thread. Here I am giving you guys free shots at Fleury and you guys are talking about the f'in Habs. Fleury must be pretty damn good then huh? As was pointed out a couple times in this thread.......Fleury is sucking ass. yep he's right...that boy's gonna bring down the whole ship!!
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 19:15:50 GMT -4
Post by Penguins23® on Oct 19, 2007 19:15:50 GMT -4
Go hijack another thread. Here I am giving you guys free shots at Fleury and you guys are talking about the f'in Habs. Fleury must be pretty damn good then huh? As was pointed out a couple times in this thread.......Fleury is sucking ass. I'm looking for criticism not just obvious comments.
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Fleury
Oct 19, 2007 20:44:49 GMT -4
Post by oilers4ever on Oct 19, 2007 20:44:49 GMT -4
Well someone is bound to start a thread on this guy sooner or later and who better then his biggest fan? I'll be the first to admit, Marc-Andre Fleury has looked very shaky this year. Some one must have told him to treat every game like a play-off game
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Fleury
Oct 20, 2007 1:25:12 GMT -4
Post by V on Oct 20, 2007 1:25:12 GMT -4
Or a gold-medal game, maybe.
Sabourin started tonight. And the Pens won, beating a heavy Carolina offense.
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Fleury
Oct 21, 2007 0:09:58 GMT -4
Post by Penguins23® on Oct 21, 2007 0:09:58 GMT -4
First fuckin star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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