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Post by SteveUL on Jul 2, 2008 8:20:25 GMT -4
You'd have a point if the Cats had cut any developing players or guys that were QMJHL calibre. Pettit seems to have done very well. Frazee was pretty good in Training Camp not to mention Murdock Maclellan, but still I do agree with you about last year. This year with a large team it doesn't need an enforcer and needs a Bissonnette/Roski/Downe/ Pettit (if not to late) or possibly Frazee way before a Whelan. How does Murdoch Maclellan fit in that category ? He made the team out of training camp ... then was injured for an extended period ... and then traded. Plus ... he was 19 ... hardly a young developing player. We had very few options last year for "developing players". Some of what we kept last year was just filler to wait for this year's draft where we could really start developing talent. It will remain to be seen if Stephens sticks around with so many young talented players ready to step in. Stephens was very raw last year but you can see he had some skill ... couple that with good size and he could be a great FA pickup. He needs to fill out more and he needs to really establish himself early on in training camp ... show that offensive skill that seemed to be just bubbling under the surface last year. One thing Stephens has going for him is that he is pet project of Flynn's ... and Flynn may not want to just shelf that project just yet. It's hard to see where all of this young talent will fit in with all the returning players. Brenton will obviously be on the bubble but Flynn likes to reward hard work ... and Brenton is a Morehouse clone in the effort department. If Bissonette is willing to report and give up his NCAA option ... I can't see them sending him back to MAAA. That would give him too much time to change his mind ... and he probably won't report unless he is guaranteed a roster spot.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 2, 2008 8:49:54 GMT -4
Pettit seems to have done very well. Frazee was pretty good in Training Camp not to mention Murdock Maclellan, but still I do agree with you about last year. This year with a large team it doesn't need an enforcer and needs a Bissonnette/Roski/Downe/ Pettit (if not to late) or possibly Frazee way before a Whelan. How does Murdoch Maclellan fit in that category ? He made the team out of training camp ... then was injured for an extended period ... and then traded. Plus ... he was 19 ... hardly a young developing player. We had very few options last year for "developing players". Some of what we kept last year was just filler to wait for this year's draft where we could really start developing talent. It will remain to be seen if Stephens sticks around with so many young talented players ready to step in. Stephens was very raw last year but you can see he had some skill ... couple that with good size and he could be a great FA pickup. He needs to fill out more and he needs to really establish himself early on in training camp ... show that offensive skill that seemed to be just bubbling under the surface last year. One thing Stephens has going for him is that he is pet project of Flynn's ... and Flynn may not want to just shelf that project just yet. It's hard to see where all of this young talent will fit in with all the returning players. Brenton will obviously be on the bubble but Flynn likes to reward hard work ... and Brenton is a Morehouse clone in the effort department. If Bissonette is willing to report and give up his NCAA option ... I can't see them sending him back to MAAA. That would give him too much time to change his mind ... and he probably won't report unless he is guaranteed a roster spot. As far as Bissonnette and his NCAA, unless he is guaranteed a spot as part of agreeing to report, they can play him all of preseason and then send him to MAAA for half a year or a full year. Playing preseason games means you have to sit out a year NCAA(like Dimitruk) so that would basically clinch it. Bissonnette has very impressive skills but seems like he needs to be pushed so maybe staying here even as a #13 forward might be better than MAAA...
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Post by jimmy on Jul 2, 2008 9:49:05 GMT -4
How does Murdoch Maclellan fit in that category ? He made the team out of training camp ... then was injured for an extended period ... and then traded. Plus ... he was 19 ... hardly a young developing player. We had very few options last year for "developing players". Some of what we kept last year was just filler to wait for this year's draft where we could really start developing talent. It will remain to be seen if Stephens sticks around with so many young talented players ready to step in. Stephens was very raw last year but you can see he had some skill ... couple that with good size and he could be a great FA pickup. He needs to fill out more and he needs to really establish himself early on in training camp ... show that offensive skill that seemed to be just bubbling under the surface last year. One thing Stephens has going for him is that he is pet project of Flynn's ... and Flynn may not want to just shelf that project just yet. It's hard to see where all of this young talent will fit in with all the returning players. Brenton will obviously be on the bubble but Flynn likes to reward hard work ... and Brenton is a Morehouse clone in the effort department. If Bissonette is willing to report and give up his NCAA option ... I can't see them sending him back to MAAA. That would give him too much time to change his mind ... and he probably won't report unless he is guaranteed a roster spot. I can see Brenton on the bubble, but I can also see him landing on a line with Sill and Brannon if he has a strong camp - his work ethic earns him a spot among Flynn's favourites. I think Stephens needs to have a big camp ... if he does, he could squeeze his way onto a scoring line ... if he doesn't, I could see him cut in favour of a younger option, especially if both Cisse and Bissonette report.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 2, 2008 9:55:26 GMT -4
How does Murdoch Maclellan fit in that category ? He made the team out of training camp ... then was injured for an extended period ... and then traded. Plus ... he was 19 ... hardly a young developing player. We had very few options last year for "developing players". Some of what we kept last year was just filler to wait for this year's draft where we could really start developing talent. It will remain to be seen if Stephens sticks around with so many young talented players ready to step in. Stephens was very raw last year but you can see he had some skill ... couple that with good size and he could be a great FA pickup. He needs to fill out more and he needs to really establish himself early on in training camp ... show that offensive skill that seemed to be just bubbling under the surface last year. One thing Stephens has going for him is that he is pet project of Flynn's ... and Flynn may not want to just shelf that project just yet. It's hard to see where all of this young talent will fit in with all the returning players. Brenton will obviously be on the bubble but Flynn likes to reward hard work ... and Brenton is a Morehouse clone in the effort department. If Bissonette is willing to report and give up his NCAA option ... I can't see them sending him back to MAAA. That would give him too much time to change his mind ... and he probably won't report unless he is guaranteed a roster spot. I can see Brenton on the bubble, but I can also see him landing on a line with Sill and Brannon if he has a strong camp - his work ethic earns him a spot among Flynn's favourites. I think Stephens needs to have a big camp ... if he does, he could squeeze his way onto a scoring line ... if he doesn't, I could see him cut in favour of a younger option, especially if both Cisse and Bissonette report. I definitely see Brenton and Stevens on the bubble, partly because they are older than the guys coming in...I doubt they cur Roski or Noseworthy for either of those guys if they show up in shape and ready. I think if Cisse, Fomin and Bissonnette are in camp, it will be tough to keep both Brenton and Stevens.
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Post by qfan on Jul 2, 2008 10:53:33 GMT -4
I think stephens is in. The only way Brenton is back is if room is created(trades) for him. Which I think will happen. You have to have hardworking guys that give an example for your team to follow: Never to quit on a play.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 2, 2008 13:11:46 GMT -4
I think stephens is in. The only way Brenton is back is if room is created(trades) for him. Which I think will happen. You have to have hardworking guys that give an example for your team to follow: Never to quit on a play. They already have Sill Eagles Brannon as hard working veteran guys, and they are bigger, stronger and more skilled than Brenton.
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Post by jimmy on Jul 2, 2008 14:11:59 GMT -4
I don't think anyone can say for certain whether Brenton or Stephens are in or out at this point ... it depends upon a variety of things (in no particular order) ...
1) How much improvement they show once they are on the ice 2) How many of Cisse/Bissonnette/Fomin report 3) How ready are some of the other rookies (Roski, Noseworthy, O'Brien) - to me it would be a surprise if Roski gets cut ... but the other two guys I mention, IMO, need to win a job at camp, which means quite likely showing that they are almost as good as the likes of Stephens and Brenton, with more upside. 4) Any FA surprises - even if we sign and ice a goon, that is probably one less spot up front for a bubble guy. 5) The progress of our other returning vets ... if the likes of Cameron and Lessard don't show up to camp looking like they are ready to have a breakout year, I wouldn't be completely shocked to see them dealt during the August trading period for a pick ... time to cut our losses with them.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 2, 2008 14:17:17 GMT -4
I don't think anyone can say for certain whether Brenton or Stephens are in or out at this point ... it depends upon a variety of things (in no particular order) ... 1) How much improvement they show once they are on the ice 2) How many of Cisse/Bissonnette/Fomin report 3) How ready are some of the other rookies (Roski, Noseworthy, O'Brien) - to me it would be a surprise if Roski gets cut ... but the other two guys I mention, IMO, need to win a job at camp, which means quite likely showing that they are almost as good as the likes of Stephens and Brenton, with more upside. 4) Any FA surprises - even if we sign and ice a goon, that is probably one less spot up front for a bubble guy. 5) The progress of our other returning vets ... if the likes of Cameron and Lessard don't show up to camp looking like they are ready to have a breakout year, I wouldn't be completely shocked to see them dealt during the August trading period for a pick ... time to cut our losses with them. If Lessard is a big disapointment in camp, maybe you can trade him for a pick...but I can't see doing that for Cameron, they are already thin at center and you can't expect Brown to be your #1 center...Sill ideally is a #2 but he will be #2...I think you have to live with Cameron and hope he takes a big step forward.
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Post by jimmy on Jul 2, 2008 15:29:16 GMT -4
I don't think anyone can say for certain whether Brenton or Stephens are in or out at this point ... it depends upon a variety of things (in no particular order) ... 1) How much improvement they show once they are on the ice 2) How many of Cisse/Bissonnette/Fomin report 3) How ready are some of the other rookies (Roski, Noseworthy, O'Brien) - to me it would be a surprise if Roski gets cut ... but the other two guys I mention, IMO, need to win a job at camp, which means quite likely showing that they are almost as good as the likes of Stephens and Brenton, with more upside. 4) Any FA surprises - even if we sign and ice a goon, that is probably one less spot up front for a bubble guy. 5) The progress of our other returning vets ... if the likes of Cameron and Lessard don't show up to camp looking like they are ready to have a breakout year, I wouldn't be completely shocked to see them dealt during the August trading period for a pick ... time to cut our losses with them. If Lessard is a big disapointment in camp, maybe you can trade him for a pick...but I can't see doing that for Cameron, they are already thin at center and you can't expect Brown to be your #1 center...Sill ideally is a #2 but he will be #2...I think you have to live with Cameron and hope he takes a big step forward. Can't Eagles play in the middle? MacAusland, Sill and Brown are other options, maybe even Stephens if he has a breakout camp ... I think we have options if Cameron doesn't pan out ... I don't think we need to watch him muddle his way to a 40 point season as our top centre ... we could also deal for an OA, at the expense of Biduke. Don't get me wrong, I think the job is Cameron's to lose ... but I think he is (or at least should be) on a bit of a short leash after last season's bellyflop.
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Post by catnut on Jul 2, 2008 15:37:38 GMT -4
If Lessard is a big disapointment in camp, maybe you can trade him for a pick...but I can't see doing that for Cameron, they are already thin at center and you can't expect Brown to be your #1 center...Sill ideally is a #2 but he will be #2...I think you have to live with Cameron and hope he takes a big step forward. Can't Eagles play in the middle? MacAusland, Sill and Brown are other options, maybe even Stephens if he has a breakout camp ... I think we have options if Cameron doesn't pan out ... I don't think we need to watch him muddle his way to a 40 point season as our top centre ... we could also deal for an OA, at the expense of Biduke. Don't get me wrong, I think the job is Cameron's to lose ... but I think he is (or at least should be) on a bit of a short leash after last season's bellyflop. I'm pretty sure Eagles started with the Cats as a centre in 05-06
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Post by sportsmaniac on Jul 21, 2008 19:18:03 GMT -4
What are Cisse plans for next season? Back to Lac St. Louis if he doesn't head to Moncton? Will he head to Des Moines this year of the USHL? Or wait till the 09-10 season for the USHL?
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Post by canucklehead on Jul 21, 2008 20:01:12 GMT -4
What are Cisse plans for next season? Back to Lac St. Louis if he doesn't head to Moncton? Will he head to Des Moines this year of the USHL? Or wait till the 09-10 season for the USHL? I don't think it's known yet for sure but I can say his family has yet to decide on what path Cisse will choose. I can see him either coming to Moncton to play or playing a year south of the border and coming to Moncton after a year or maybe two.
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bikerboy
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Post by bikerboy on Jul 21, 2008 21:12:41 GMT -4
some people was saying Cisse really really want to come here because alot of friends here and he love the organisation , the only thing is the Parents they are not sure what they want for there son , one thing is sure they want education for him in anyway .
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 24, 2008 8:43:45 GMT -4
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Post by SteveUL on Jul 24, 2008 8:51:51 GMT -4
Thanks for the treasure hunt ...
On July 21 ...
I like to see how much time Yasin Cisse receives with the Buccaneers. If not the Moncton Wildcats of the QMJHL will be making a big push for him to sign with them.
On July 22 ...
I said yesterday Yasin Cisse will be with the Des Moines Buccaneers this season. That decision hasn't been made yet. He still deciding on where he wants to play next season.
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