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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 8, 2008 10:39:13 GMT -4
Neil Hodge must be on vacation, we have not heard anything on Cisse or even Bissonnette in regards to reporting. Usually there are a few articles on those type of players over the summer.
Also, the 2 Euros, is their paperwork in order to play in the Q next year?
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Post by jimmy on Aug 8, 2008 11:53:12 GMT -4
Been wondering the same thing for a while now - there has been very little news this summer ... I expect Cisse must be very near a decision if one hasn't already been reached for next season ...
Also, anyone know what the deal is on FAs? I see PEI has announced they are bringing a couple of Ontario guys to camp - whatever happened to that storyline, and if we can in fact sign FAs, isn't it odd we don't have anyone yet?
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Post by qfan on Aug 8, 2008 12:31:03 GMT -4
I agree. Last offseason, it seam like there were about 3 articles a week in the T&T. This year its more like 3 a month.
I wonder if its because they don't already know the decision of the players. It seems odd because they could still talk about others draft picks. They had quite a few. Gotta say I'm a little disapointed.
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Post by habh8er on Aug 8, 2008 12:56:25 GMT -4
Also, anyone know what the deal is on FAs? I see PEI has announced they are bringing a couple of Ontario guys to camp - whatever happened to that storyline?
But league sources indicate the free agent issue could clear up as early as Friday.
The QMJHL is full of Ontario-born players who blossomed once getting a second chance. Ontario Hockey League teams want to tighten their grip, and the issue has been simmering for months. Bathurst native David Branch is president of the CHL and commissioner of the OHL.
QMJHL commissioner Gilles Courteau sent a memo to teams in February, ordering them to freeze all activities with players from outside regions until further notice.
"There's nothing new on the free agent file but something should be coming up in the next few weeks," league spokesman Karl Jahnke said Wednesday.
But multiple sources are expecting news Friday.
One believes the Canadian Hockey League, which oversees all three major junior loops, will enforce strict waiver rules that could limit teams' ability to bring in players." |
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Post by jimmy on Aug 8, 2008 13:37:12 GMT -4
I don't really have a problem with the player being given one last crack at having to clear OHL/WHL waivers (provided a team is willing to sign him to their active roster, not just their reserve list) ... I think having to expose the player to QMJHL waivers is stupid, I don't understand how that benefits the OHL/WHL, though it may please teams in the Q who have historically struggled to find/sign FAs.
What ultimately frustrates me the most is the timing ... this came up as an issue last summer ... it should have been resolved over the winter ... camps are only a few weeks away from opening, and they still can't get their act together - and it is the players who are going to lose out.
I would like to see the CHL and its member leagues add a relatively rule to their administrative rule book - if a rule is not in place by the draft, then it cannot be put into effect until the following season. This last minute waffling on rules is bush league, plain and simple.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 8, 2008 13:56:48 GMT -4
I don't really have a problem with the player being given one last crack at having to clear OHL/WHL waivers (provided a team is willing to sign him to their active roster, not just their reserve list) ... I think having to expose the player to QMJHL waivers is stupid, I don't understand how that benefits the OHL/WHL, though it may please teams in the Q who have historically struggled to find/sign FAs. What ultimately frustrates me the most is the timing ... this came up as an issue last summer ... it should have been resolved over the winter ... camps are only a few weeks away from opening, and they still can't get their act together - and it is the players who are going to lose out. I would like to see the CHL and its member leagues add a relatively rule to their administrative rule book - if a rule is not in place by the draft, then it cannot be put into effect until the following season. This last minute waffling on rules is bush league, plain and simple. I think the article he quoted was from back in June because it was discussed at the last meeting between CHL comissioners. I'm not sure exactly what they decided, but I know a lot of teams have Ontario FA's on their rosters on the Q site right now, so obviously something changed. I agree that it's dumb to have to waive a player through the Q, unless multiple teams are after him so you don't get into bidding wars. |
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Post by habh8er on Aug 8, 2008 14:20:46 GMT -4
Both articles were in the paper yesterday August 7 2008.
I even supplied the links.
"Beaulieu said he has six potential Ontario free agents but is awaiting official word. Meanwhile, the Prince Edward Island Rocket has already announced two."
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 8, 2008 14:31:43 GMT -4
re: eliminating the import draft:
I realize teams are finding in harder each year to travel with the rediculous costs of fuel and insurance, but where does the line get drawn?
If Halifax and Quebec can draw 7000+ consistantly, why is the profit only seen in the owners chequing account instead of on the on-ice product? I might not like the fact they can bring over Euro all stars, but I damn sure enjoy watching these highly skilled players. And they're certainly not bumping anyone from my own back yard from what I see.
Anyone who has ever attended a Q training camp knows that beyond the main group of about 30...MAYBE 35 kids....the rest just don't belong. Of those 30, maybe half a dozen to 10 at the absolute most in big years are of "star" quality. So we're going to rob ourselves of watching great players because some teams have Euro's on the 3rd line? That seems pretty foolish to me.
Basically what i'm reading is we stand a good chance of losing not only Europeans, but out of region players. As a fan of the Q, thats a hell of a lot of entertainment being taken away from me in order to localize and cheapen the product and as a consumer I know that 0% of these savings will be passed along to me.
It seems like as a hockey fan its getting to the point that it is better off ignoring the Q and supporting local major midget hockey.
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Post by Penguins23® on Aug 9, 2008 13:45:56 GMT -4
They already weakened the teams by adding 2 more teams and now possibly eliminating euros and out of territory FA's? How is the Q even going to compete in the Memorial Cup? Might as well make the Q winner play in the Fred Page Cup.  The prices are going up in the Q but the talent is on the way down. |
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Post by bois on Aug 11, 2008 8:45:47 GMT -4
also what would this do to the MJHL? It would pretty much kill it off completely
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 11, 2008 8:56:35 GMT -4
also what would this do to the MJHL? It would pretty much kill it off completely No it wouldn't ... the quality of the product would decrease ... but it is a product that is best suited for small towns where it is the only show in town. Yarmouth and Woodstock flourish ... while teams in Moncton, Charlottetown, Halifax struggle (financially) being the 3rd and 4th best hockey team in town behind Q and AUS. Jr A hockey will always have a following in the Maritimes ... just not in the bigger centers. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 11, 2008 9:06:40 GMT -4
also what would this do to the MJHL? It would pretty much kill it off completely No it wouldn't ... the quality of the product would decrease ... but it is a product that is best suited for small towns where it is the only show in town. Yarmouth and Woodstock flourish ... while teams in Moncton, Charlottetown, Halifax struggle (financially) being the 3rd and 4th best hockey team in town behind Q and AUS. Jr A hockey will always have a following in the Maritimes ... just not in the bigger centers. But if you take away some of the depth and quality in the play, you may see fans lose some interest as it will become harder for the MJAHL to find quality players with the Q picking up more players to fill out rosters. |
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 11, 2008 9:35:06 GMT -4
No it wouldn't ... the quality of the product would decrease ... but it is a product that is best suited for small towns where it is the only show in town. Yarmouth and Woodstock flourish ... while teams in Moncton, Charlottetown, Halifax struggle (financially) being the 3rd and 4th best hockey team in town behind Q and AUS. Jr A hockey will always have a following in the Maritimes ... just not in the bigger centers. But if you take away some of the depth and quality in the play, you may see fans lose some interest as it will become harder for the MJAHL to find quality players with the Q picking up more players to fill out rosters. That won't matter ... a community will still support its top team ... all teams will be weakened ... but your will team will still be competing in the same league. What will people in Yarmouth do if their team isn't as strong as it was two years ago ... but they are still one of the top teams in the league ? Stay home and do nothing ? Fans stop supporting a team when it puts out duds year after year ... as long as you remain competitive from year to year with the chance to win a championship once in awhile ... all will be the same. The big hit that could occur is when the Q gets weakened to the point that CIS hockey suddenly becomes more attractive ... but that won't affect the MJAHL much ... except in places like Moncton, Charlottetown. Halifax, etc. ... but they struggle now. |
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Post by Penguins23® on Aug 31, 2008 22:00:44 GMT -4
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The prices are going up in the Q but the talent is on the way down.
