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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 21, 2008 20:12:37 GMT -4
Than why would Lewiston make the trade? to get a cameron or a lessard who can play for them the rest of this season and next. i wish we could dress 4 20's next season, but you know, league rules..... How does that deal help Lewiston 3 years from now?? If you are getting Gratchev they sure as hell arent getting 2 19 year olds. |
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Post by robkennedy on Dec 21, 2008 20:16:26 GMT -4
i've said it before and i'll say it again: cameron or lessard and our 1st to Lewiston for Gratchev and their 1st. unlikely both cameron and lessard will be back next season, plus lewiston's 1st should be top 5 unless they get going on a long winning streak soon. Giving up the team's best player to receive a poorer draft pick and 2 19s? This deal is ridiculously one-sided for the Wildcats. I know a lot of people in Lewiston already think Ed Harding should be fired. I'm not in that camp, but I'll lead their ranks if he signs off on a deal like this! |
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Post by Mike Gundy on Dec 21, 2008 20:17:43 GMT -4
to get a cameron or a lessard who can play for them the rest of this season and next. i wish we could dress 4 20's next season, but you know, league rules..... How does that deal help Lewiston 3 years from now?? If you are getting Gratchev they sure as hell arent getting 2 19 year olds. ok, we'll just go after someone else then and Lewiston can keep a guy on their team for the next 3 months instead of getting something for him while they can. wish we'd done the same thing last year with Marquardt and Mangan.  |
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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 21, 2008 20:18:56 GMT -4
How does that deal help Lewiston 3 years from now?? If you are getting Gratchev they sure as hell arent getting 2 19 year olds. ok, we'll just go after someone else then and Lewiston can keep a guy on their team for the next 3 months instead of getting something for him while they can. wish we'd done the same thing last year with Marquardt and Mangan. While your at it, you should trade Gormley to Halifax for Travis Randell...seems fair to me... |
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Post by pong on Dec 21, 2008 20:22:39 GMT -4
You have 4 20's in your second scenario... And youre overpaying for Gratchev.... Just trying to get the ball rolling.What do you think would be fair for Gratchev?What do you think his numbers would be in our lineup?Is he defensively responsible enough to play for Flynn? Like I said-I prefer the 1st scenario anyways. Do you believe that it's 50/50 for Voinov reporting to the Cats after Christmas like it said in the paper? |
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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 21, 2008 20:26:24 GMT -4
You have 4 20's in your second scenario... And youre overpaying for Gratchev.... Just trying to get the ball rolling.What do you think would be fair for Gratchev?What do you think his numbers would be in our lineup?Is he defensively responsible enough to play for Flynn? Like I said-I prefer the 1st scenario anyways. Do you believe that it's 50/50 for Voinov reporting to the Cats after Christmas like it said in the paper? He would be an OK fit for you guys, but he would be a 2nd teir 20 year old to add, there would be better guys out there.... Price for Gratchev...1 good young prospect and a 2nd rd pick.... |
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Post by curtis on Dec 21, 2008 21:46:07 GMT -4
People are forgetting we're missing Famin....who brings a lot of what Gratchev brings, it looks like. I liked what I saw from him Friday night, but I'm not sold on dealing too much to acquire him.
I would rather upgrade to a 20 year old D (if Voynov doesn't show).
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Post by bikerboy on Dec 21, 2008 22:26:22 GMT -4
if voynov should could should of or maybe be here , same story with the Special #2 center that we were waiting on in 2006 season that never came . not here go forward and if get Bonus , do the club has you think is best and can has far at it can , Gratchev with be uge upgrad from lahi , and bourdon would be too expensive in my oppinion . Paris, Drew would be a good fit ,Cusack, Patrick,Tulupov, Kirill,Rioux, Sébastien
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 21, 2008 23:26:13 GMT -4
i've said it before and i'll say it again: cameron or lessard and our 1st to Lewiston for Gratchev and their 1st. unlikely both cameron and lessard will be back next season, plus lewiston's 1st should be top 5 unless they get going on a long winning streak soon. That makes no sense from a WC perspective, you're giving up your 1st rounder plus a player with possibly 1 1/2 years left(who doesn't take a 20 year old slot, so you also lose Lahey) for a guy that's 15-20% better. The difference from Gratchev to Lessard or Cameron is not that great(5 points over a season). If all 4 19 year olds(Rio cameron lessard Brannon) are back, that's a pleasant problem to have, you have a very good asset to trade. |
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Post by Hockeyguy24 on Dec 22, 2008 12:10:22 GMT -4
Does anyone think Boyle will be traded,
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 22, 2008 12:43:28 GMT -4
Does anyone think Boyle will be traded, Not unless Voynov shows. Maybe at the draft if Rio and Cameron don't sign pro deals. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2008 22:28:58 GMT -4
Here's one folks....
To Moncton:
Maxime Macenauer
Jarred Struthers
To R-N:
Ted Stephens
Matt Boyle
3rd round pick (2009)
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Post by curtis on Dec 22, 2008 22:53:08 GMT -4
Here's one folks.... To Moncton: Maxime Macenauer Jarred Struthers To R-N: Ted Stephens Matt Boyle 3rd round pick (2009) I think it would probably cost us more than that. We probably value Stephens more than most, since we can see his progression from last season. Other teams may see a decent 18 yo with some upside. Boyle is a borderline 20 yo next season, although he would be a good fit if they trade Bourdon, etc.. this season. Of course, then we'd have to make another deal to land a replacement for Boyle, since Bell is not going to be on your 3rd pairing on a championship club. |
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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 22, 2008 22:57:12 GMT -4
Here's one folks.... To Moncton: Maxime Macenauer Jarred Struthers To R-N: Ted Stephens Matt Boyle 3rd round pick (2009) MacAusland, O'Brien and a 2nd rd pick... Boyle is marginal, he wouldnt be an upgrade on any of Rouyn-Noranda's 20's next year and Ted Stephens is good, but not to base a deal around. |
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Post by curtis on Dec 22, 2008 23:02:23 GMT -4
Here's one folks.... To Moncton: Maxime Macenauer Jarred Struthers To R-N: Ted Stephens Matt Boyle 3rd round pick (2009) MacAusland, O'Brien and a 2nd rd pick... Boyle is marginal, he wouldnt be an upgrade on any of Rouyn-Noranda's 20's next year and Ted Stephens is good, but not to base a deal around. That's probably closer to the true cost, although I wouldn't pull the trigger, since I'm a MacAusland fanboy. ;D |
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