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Post by Score on Apr 3, 2010 13:21:08 GMT -4
Clarke too is a gamble for the Moose...for any team. He's been in the "dog house" most season it seemed.....I doubt Cam will put up with much more.....if any....of his antics. At least with Clarke you know exactly what to fix, and you know that if it does get fixed, he'll be an elite player. Can it be fixed though? Has Cam given up on trying? If Clarke does get traded.......he'll be on his 3rd team in a very short QMJHL career.....that speaks for itself.
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Post by lalalaprise on Apr 3, 2010 13:53:10 GMT -4
Clarke too is a gamble for the Moose...for any team. He's been in the "dog house" most season it seemed.....I doubt Cam will put up with much more.....if any....of his antics. The only issues with Clarke is that he takes too many bad penalties. That's a very coachable downfall for any player, even one that seems difficult to coach. Clarke will be entering his draft year, and his stock has fallen to do his lack of discipline, so he'll be extra motivated to stay out of the box and turn that aspect of his game around. With Duffy, he just looks like a bust. That to me, is far worse. How much potential is left with Duffy? Duffy's the bigger gamble than Clarke. At least with Clarke you know exactly what to fix, and you know that if it does get fixed, he'll be an elite player. With Duffy, it's unsure what the problem is exactly, but he's an offensive player who doesn't score. There's no gaurentee he'll ever amount to anything, even with great coaching. Clarke's issues arent just 'on ice' related... That being said, I cant see Halifax doing a 1 for 1 Duffy/Clarke swap...but then again I cant see PEI doing that either...so Im not sure if a deal will get done.
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Post by canbeer on Apr 3, 2010 13:53:26 GMT -4
At least with Clarke you know exactly what to fix, and you know that if it does get fixed, he'll be an elite player. Can it be fixed though? Has Cam given up on trying? If Clarke does get traded.......he'll be on his 3rd team in a very short QMJHL career.....that speaks for itself. Can it not be fixed? If Cam has given up then he'll be given away or not asked back. Your 20 year olds last year... what teams were they on?
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Post by Murph on Apr 3, 2010 14:39:45 GMT -4
At least with Clarke you know exactly what to fix, and you know that if it does get fixed, he'll be an elite player. Can it be fixed though? Has Cam given up on trying? If Clarke does get traded.......he'll be on his 3rd team in a very short QMJHL career.....that speaks for itself. If Clarke gets dealt, it's because of the amount of '92 born defenceman (and younger) within the organiation, and the lack of forwards in the organiation. Not because Russell has given up on him.
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Post by sharrow on Apr 3, 2010 15:00:51 GMT -4
Russell has proven in his brief history of being a G/M that he will not be a participent in over paying in trades, I rather fear the other side of it and that is we will miss out on some trades due to his meaness.
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Post by defresh101 on Apr 3, 2010 15:38:28 GMT -4
A Clarke/Duffy swap would be the most logical thing, but neither team wouldnt most likely do this. Halifax is hoping they have a stud of a defeencemen who just needs to mature, and show his true talent. When they have a spoiled brat who needs to grow up and appreciate his GOD given talent, and try his best to see how far that will take him. From his maturity level I would venture to guess he is not a sucess in his education. Duffy on the other had either is a kid who was given too much credit and is not the great hockey player everyone expected. Also it maybe because his environment either he hates PEI because of him just being a teenager, and home sick. If thats the case grow up and play hockey. Other scenario the Rockett are not treating him right or developing him right. If thats the case been should just not go back than PEI will be forced to trade him. Ask Brad MacDonald. Either way both these kids could be great but at the point they are risky assests. With no more discussion I think Duffy desperatly needs to be traded, and Clarke needs a last warning.
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Post by howitzer on Apr 3, 2010 18:44:58 GMT -4
I like the mention of Clarke and the 19th pick for Duffy and the 10th pick. That makes sense. In no way would I be happy with us moving the #2 overall pick in a deal for Duffy. I think the kid could blossom in a new, different environment, but I'm not parting with the second overall pick for him.
In a deal like that, we add a top 6 forward, who potentially has 3 years left in the league, still pick the kid we want at #2 and then grab another guy at #10, and still have plenty of picks in round 2 and 3. I think it's a fair value trade for both.
All that being said, I'd still be a bit pissed to lose Clarke. He's high mainteance, but has skills too. Plus he has the ability to change a game with one hit. Hard to lose those guys.
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Post by milton on Apr 4, 2010 11:36:13 GMT -4
While I think Clarke may be traded (hope he isn't) I can't see PEI being the team. A) I think we could land a better 18 year old for Clarke and B) I really don't think Cam wants to see Clarke on the other side as many times as we play PEI in a season, I know I don't. Dealing him out of the division makes more sense to me, but hard to say if there is a legit trading partner. I feel like Duffy will be a Moosehead at some point, but I don't think Clarke will be involved. And no way we should move that #2 pick. I sat through hell this year, lol, we better make a pick.
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Post by zapp on Apr 4, 2010 13:13:10 GMT -4
While I think Clarke may be traded (hope he isn't) I can't see PEI being the team. A) I think we could land a better 18 year old for Clarke and B) I really don't think Cam wants to see Clarke on the other side as many times as we play PEI in a season, I know I don't. Dealing him out of the division makes more sense to me, but hard to say if there is a legit trading partner. I feel like Duffy will be a Moosehead at some point, but I don't think Clarke will be involved. And no way we should move that #2 pick. I sat through hell this year, lol, we better make a pick. If Cam is so scared to trade him in the division and to face him so many times, maybe he should take a long look at whether trading him is the right answer.
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Post by shea on Apr 4, 2010 13:35:48 GMT -4
With Hynes as a healthy scratch last night you may see a Hynes for Clarke or Hynes for Duffy?
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Post by howitzer on Apr 4, 2010 14:19:38 GMT -4
With Hynes as a healthy scratch last night you may see a Hynes for Clarke or Hynes for Duffy? No and no....from Victo's point of view. What's up with Hynes in the playoffs? Is he playing injured, or just playing that bad? edit: nevermind, I read the thread in the Q Discussion section. Apparently he is injured.
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Post by sharrow on Apr 4, 2010 19:26:01 GMT -4
I think that when we traded to get Clarke from Lewiston, Patrick Roy was trying to obtain Clarke but Clarke specified Halifax as to where he wanted to be traded to. After this Roy and the Maniacs did a blockbuster deal. And I think Roy would still have an interest in getting Clarke.
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Post by Murph on Apr 5, 2010 7:11:37 GMT -4
I think that when we traded to get Clarke from Lewiston, Patrick Roy was trying to obtain Clarke but Clarke specified Halifax as to where he wanted to be traded to. After this Roy and the Maniacs did a blockbuster deal. And I think Roy would still have an interest in getting Clarke. A 3rd team would be needed. The Remparts have zero players that interest the Mooseheads. If they did, Knotek would be in their line up.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 5, 2010 7:34:13 GMT -4
I think that when we traded to get Clarke from Lewiston, Patrick Roy was trying to obtain Clarke but Clarke specified Halifax as to where he wanted to be traded to. After this Roy and the Maniacs did a blockbuster deal. And I think Roy would still have an interest in getting Clarke. A 3rd team would be needed. The Remparts have zero players that interest the Mooseheads. If they did, Knotek would be in their line up. That should have read "Quebec has no players they are willing to move that interest Halifax". I'm pretty sure guys like Lefebvre Tam Dore Domingue Appleby...
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Post by Murph on Apr 5, 2010 8:33:23 GMT -4
A 3rd team would be needed. The Remparts have zero players that interest the Mooseheads. If they did, Knotek would be in their line up. That should have read "Quebec has no players they are willing to move that interest Halifax". I'm pretty sure guys like Lefebvre Tam Dore Domingue Appleby... If Halifax is moving Clarke, it'll be to add a 92' (or younger) forward. None of those players apply. Given the amount of picks they have, they can easily draft a guy comparable to Appleby.
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