QMJHL Officiating

[freddy]

Refs in this league cannot work alone and do a good job..The players over the years got bigger and faster and more skilled and the refs have been doing the same things since early nineties and need to have an advanage again and there has to be two on the ice for every game and after that I would say start up grading each and every one of them and this will take ten years...

[gongshow]

Funny thing about Carruthers he's still in the league every year despite being in the 3 worst refs category all those years.....at least Huslof hasn't been around yet.....also I agree Thane Arsenault is absolutely horrible too.

The worst i've seen this year is Clark Aitken...he doesn't even come close to being able to keep up with the pace.....he did a game in Mctn vs Gatineau and even though gat squeezed out a win(on their 4th game in 5 nights)Benoit Groulx couldn't even come close to cracking a smile as he walked across the ice starring at Aitken the whole way.

The best (in the east at least) is easily Guy Pellerin...it's funny when he does a game there's usually about 4-6 pp's per team......when a guy like Aitken or Carruthers does a game guaranteed at least 10 pp's for one team if not both.

The league should bring back Carragher while their at it lol....at least when he'd ref you knew the game would get out of control and there would at least a line brawl.

[dogbert]

Compared to minor hockey which I've seen a lot of, the Q reffing is awesome! You get the level that matches your league. I rarely pay any attention to reffing anymore.

[habh8er]

dogbert said:

Compared to minor hockey which I've seen a lot of, the Q reffing is awesome! You get the level that matches your league. I rarely pay any attention to reffing anymore.

Yeah but some of these guys look like they jumped right from bantam house to the Q....you will get better ref's at the higher levels that is a given.....but after the game at Harbour Station last tuesday night where the ref seemed lost all night, and couldn't seem to make a good call on behalf of either team the league should have a good hard look at all officials and weed out the arseholes and crap-uthers of the bunch. As someone said earlier there needs to be two referees at all games to have any kind of consistancy, the practice of having one at a certain game and two at another makes no sense.....employ enough to have two at all games....could the newer ones comming up do any worse than some of the veteran officials they have now....I don't think there would be a big difference, but to use the excuse that they have to be brought up gradually is a load of crap. There should be enough officials in a continent the size of North America to ensure a consistent policing of the game at all levels...and if not do something about it, how long has the two-ref system been in place now...and still is no better staffed than it was in the beginning.

[Mike Gundy]

freddy said:

Refs in this league cannot work alone and do a good job..The players over the years got bigger and faster and more skilled and the refs have been doing the same things since early nineties and need to have an advanage again and there has to be two on the ice for every game and after that I would say start up grading each and every one of them and this will take ten years...

i don't agree entirely about the players being bigger and faster than years ago. the league now has 18 teams and compared to how many it used to have (like when there were no teams outside of Québec) certainly the league has become watered down some. then again, so have the referees.

[catnut]

freevickin2008 said:

freddy said:

Refs in this league cannot work alone and do a good job..The players over the years got bigger and faster and more skilled and the refs have been doing the same things since early nineties and need to have an advanage again and there has to be two on the ice for every game and after that I would say start up grading each and every one of them and this will take ten years...

i don't agree entirely about the players being bigger and faster than years ago. the league now has 18 teams and compared to how many it used to have (like when there were no teams outside of Québec) certainly the league has become watered down some. then again, so have the referees.

But you have to consider that the style of play has changed as has the level of fitness. As for the league being watered down, there were essentially no players from outside Quebec in the Q prior to the expansions in the Maritimes as the English youth from Atlantic Canada would go to Ontario or out West to play major junior.

[Mike Gundy]

well, it's been said time and again that the referees who are currently in the Q are the best officials available to the league. sadly, i think that's true. but then again, any referees who can make decent calls usually get promoted to higher caliber leagues.

[GB-Unit]

Remember Chris Lee? They just talked about him on the spin on the score. They where talking about the Phantom call, he made the other day during the habs game.

[section5]

stratford said:

From what I have seen so far this season, the officiating has been reasonably good.

And there have been fewer comments about "Bad" officiating on the message boards, compared to previous years.

Are the officials doing a better job?

Are the players catching on to the newer rules?

Want an example of how the officiating has been this year check out the CB/Moncton game last night (2:12:00) on the replay achieves.

Here's a game that is trying to cleanup its' image and remove the dangerous hits to the head and checking from behind. In the video (you be the judge) I see an obvious hit from behind, after a whistle and near the boards. Dangerous play no

The refs (Charron/Leblanc) call the obvious checking from behind penalty but also a diving penalty on the guy flying head first towards the boards.

Classic example of how the officiating in this league has been this year.

Please, would be great if someone could tell me I'm wrong here but this would rate up there with the worst I've seen this year.

Just check it out, please before you comment. (2:12:00)

[Sébastien]

I copy/pasted what I posted on the Eagles' board.

I think a hit from behind and a diving penalty can complement each other. Just like a hooking call and a diving call being called together.

In this case, Piskacek is not against the boards when Lessard comes in contact with him. He litteraly flies into the boards kinda far away. If I am a referee, I call the hit as a checking from behind, as there was contact, no doubt about it.

However, I also call the dive, as Piskacek litteraly LAUNCHES himself a couple of feet away. Look at the webcast again. Look how slowly Lessard is going towards Piskacek. Unless there was a cross check (which doesn't seem like it's the case, and the ref would have called that cross checking anyways), there's absolutely no way the velocity of the impact makes Piskacek fly that far away.

Although it's not something you see very often, good call by the referee. Get the guilty act, but get the embelishment too.

[sportsmaniac]

In the lewiston st. john's game i thought there were some questionable and uncalls. one referee should oof called interference on himself when he ran into Giliati when Gilly had a chance to get the puck.

[Deleted]

Halifax vs Cape Breton
Another game another quality refereeing perfomance.
Pelerine is a piece of shit.
60 mins in penalties and was equally bad for both sides called bullshit penalties and missed obvious ones. Was behind the play all game I really think the Q has to address this, partime refs dont cut it.

[Deleted]

www.lhjmq.qc.ca/lang_en/index.php?page=232&id_nouvelle=1583

Who ever made these selections definately did not see the game in Halifax on Sunday.
Well at least if Pellerin is in Switzerland he won't be in the Q :-)

[sharrow]

Pellerine I don't think is that bad of a referee but when it comes to games involving Halifax he is PURELY CHEATING for what reason I don't know. He isn't able to do it as well in games where there are two referees but like last Sunday he was CHEATING and if the league looked at the tapes of this game he would be getting many games next month. Send him over to Switzerland maybe he won't return. He is truly a piece of excrement.

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[Jason]

I have noticed that the refs usually go from onw extream (not calling anything) to the other (making no calls at all).