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Post by stratford on Oct 18, 2007 15:34:44 GMT -4
From what I have seen so far this season, the officiating has been reasonably good.
And there have been fewer comments about "Bad" officiating on the message boards, compared to previous years.
Are the officials doing a better job?
Are the players catching on to the newer rules?
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Post by chillywack on Oct 18, 2007 15:47:55 GMT -4
I think it's both.
The officials have more experience with calling the new standard. All of the referees work Junior A games as well, so they have had more opportunities to work within the new standard, and they are finally comfortable calling the new standard hook, interference etc.
The players have also seemed to catch on, there is less picking, hooking and intereference. Makes for a more wide open game.
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Post by seahawk on Oct 18, 2007 15:51:50 GMT -4
IMO the reffing is much better when there is only 1 guy with the orange/red arm bands on the ice. Only problem then is he misses many behind the play slashes and other dirty tricks. It seems with 2 refs the take turns calling penalties (seems like 1 guy is always on break).
I usually go to the games expecting a bunch of cheap calls (for both teams) with a few things that I feel should have been called (again both ways) but somehow left go.
After 10 seasons of watching many brutal performances by the guys in stripes I am somewhat used to the fact that I will rarely see a decent refereed game and if I do am quite stunned.
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Post by goon on Oct 18, 2007 16:30:10 GMT -4
I thought I read somewhere that the Q had told it's officials to relax on some of the obstruction calls this year (use some judgement)? That may have something to do with being less frustrated with the officiating.
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Post by Porkchop on Oct 19, 2007 8:14:19 GMT -4
If you go to the rink and the ref is a guy who's been in the league for a long time, expect a bad game..........all the good refs get promoted to higher leagues.......the guys that stick around here are the ones that are not good enough for the higher leagues............I would give examples, but Arsenault gets picked on enough.........
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Post by freddy on Oct 31, 2007 16:37:00 GMT -4
I don't think the refs are as bad as we feel they are but the league has to come up with a plan do they go with two ref system or drop it and go with one man system..But they cannot have both it is not right or fair to teams or fans....
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Post by elementz on Oct 31, 2007 22:04:07 GMT -4
Guess nobody watched the Sea Dogs and Maineiacs game last night. Worse display I have ever seen by Andrew Carruthers. A member of the board wrote a letter to the league and here was the response.
Sir,
Our supervisor Larry Christian was at the game yesterday, he was not happy by the performance of our referee. Your email is about the same of his report. We work hard to teach the referees. When they don’t perform, we cut their numbers of games for the following month, and at the end of the regular season, we have a meeting with all the supervisors and we will decide their participation in the playoff. Sorry for that performance. If you want more information on this aspect of the game, you can call me at ***-***-****.
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Post by bjindaho on Nov 1, 2007 12:21:27 GMT -4
I wish the NHL would be so open with some of the crap that goes on, if only to offer another opinion. When the NFL started admitting mistakes, it was when I started to really start paying attention again, because the refs are humans, and humans make mistakes. While admitting them may undermine the game, it offers the fans closure that the league saw the play and disagreed with the call (or agreed).
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Post by Penguins23® on Nov 4, 2007 23:28:07 GMT -4
If you go to the rink and the ref is a guy who's been in the league for a long time, expect a bad game..........all the good refs get promoted to higher leagues.......the guys that stick around here are the ones that are not good enough for the higher leagues............I would give examples, but Arsenault gets picked on enough......... You guys in Bathurst really hate that guy eh? 2 of the last 3 games I've been to there this year were officiated by him and people just kept yelling at him. Even when he would call a penalty on the opposition they still felt the need to yell at him "About time Arsenault" blah blah blah. Then again, no matter who's the ref, if I Titan gets touched the crowd cries for a penalty
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Post by Porkchop on Nov 5, 2007 7:45:08 GMT -4
If you go to the rink and the ref is a guy who's been in the league for a long time, expect a bad game..........all the good refs get promoted to higher leagues.......the guys that stick around here are the ones that are not good enough for the higher leagues............I would give examples, but Arsenault gets picked on enough......... You guys in Bathurst really hate that guy eh? 2 of the last 3 games I've been to there this year were officiated by him and people just kept yelling at him. Even when he would call a penalty on the opposition they still felt the need to yell at him "About time Arsenault" blah blah blah. Then again, no matter who's the ref, if I Titan gets touched the crowd cries for a penalty He is the worst ref I've seen for reffing by the scoreboard........once a team gets up by a goal or 2 he calls for the other team.......I usually don't have a problem with the reffing and overall have found it pretty decent this year, compared to other years.......but Arsenault is just consistantly bad.......I remember when he got pelted by bottles in Bathurst back in about 2001 for a horrible game........nothing has changed with him since that time.....he's still horrible...............right now I'd love to have Dutil or Forrest come back, over him any day.
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Post by Mike Gundy on Nov 5, 2007 21:14:34 GMT -4
You guys in Bathurst really hate that guy eh? 2 of the last 3 games I've been to there this year were officiated by him and people just kept yelling at him. Even when he would call a penalty on the opposition they still felt the need to yell at him "About time Arsenault" blah blah blah. Then again, no matter who's the ref, if I Titan gets touched the crowd cries for a penalty He is the worst ref I've seen for reffing by the scoreboard........once a team gets up by a goal or 2 he calls for the other team.......I usually don't have a problem with the reffing and overall have found it pretty decent this year, compared to other years.......but Arsenault is just consistantly bad.......I remember when he got pelted by bottles in Bathurst back in about 2001 for a horrible game........nothing has changed with him since that time.....he's still horrible...............right now I'd love to have Dutil or Forrest come back, over him any day. i agree with ARSEnault being the worst referee in the Q. the rest of the officials have been fine this season except for him. seems like every year the Q has at least one referee who shouldn't be in the league. last year it was mark hulshof. the year before that it was corey cassidy. this year it's Arse.
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Post by major on Nov 5, 2007 21:48:58 GMT -4
Or Carruthers
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Post by chillywack on Nov 5, 2007 22:01:31 GMT -4
agree on carruthers. that bone head has to go.
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Post by habh8er on Nov 5, 2007 22:32:28 GMT -4
agree on carruthers. that bone head has to go. Yeah you know he's gotta be bad when J.B. goes off in the media....and no fine or anything....wonder if he's doing the game here thursday night?? Andrew McGilligan Telegraph-Journal Published Wednesday October 31st, 2007 Appeared on page B12 SAINT JOHN - Sea Dogs head coach and general manager Jacques Beaulieu had strong words about the officiating after the game. "Embarrassing for the league the way the officiating was tonight," he said. "How can the kids play? Let the kids play. (Referee Andrew Carruthers) doesn't have to determine the game." BOUCHERVILLE, Friday, November 2, 2007 – The Commissioner of Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, Gilles Courteau, today imposed a $1,000 fine to the Rimouski Océanic organization for head coach Clément Jodoin’s inappropriate comments, which he aimed at League on-ice officials following last Saturday’s game between the Océanic and the Rouyn-Noranda Huskies
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Post by chillywack on Nov 5, 2007 23:17:03 GMT -4
No Carruthers Thurs night, thank god.
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