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Post by Darkside on Jan 10, 2008 14:48:56 GMT -4
Halifax never shows up with their best game ... they rely too much on talent and not enough on hard work ... and that and their goaltending will prevent them from winning a championship. It's kind of disturbing how much you care and post about Halifax. How many times have you seen them play this year? Maybe 3 or 4? Good, then you realize your opinion of the team is based on blind bias. We do not have work ethic issues, not even close. I'm not sure where you come up with this shit, seriously. Must be an exciting life you live.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Jan 10, 2008 14:52:35 GMT -4
Taking both games against RN would be huge. But Moncton are the only team that should be a given win (Moose at full strength, and the tiring of their young guys who are now carrying more of the load after trades). After that, the east have teams that are all capable of beating eachother. The best teams we have seen come into Moncton this year are Gatineau and BC ... no other teams have looked as good as them. Halifax never shows up with their best game ... they rely too much on talent and not enough on hard work ... and that and their goaltending will prevent them from winning a championship. lol And Gatineau were staked a 3-0 lead before getting steamrolled by Halifax, and BC lost 4-0 in Halifax... how teams look coming through Moncton has no weight on reality, or else we'd be saying Quebec and Chicoutimi are better than Gat and BC... Mon vs Lewy Mon vs Bathurst Hal vs CB ...just some examples of how rivalries will sometimes make games closer than they should be
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Post by P-O on Jan 10, 2008 15:24:37 GMT -4
The west has many mediocre teams?
Imo the East got 3 mediocre teams in Moncton, P.E.I. and in St-John's. They only have 1 contender imo in Halifax. They got 4 teams in the middle who can wins their share of games but don't have what it takes to win it all : St-John, Bathurst, Cape-Breton and Lewiston.
So basically
Powerhouse : Halifax Teams who have an outside chance : St-John, Bathurst, Cape-Breton and Lewiston. Mediocre teams : Moncton, P.E.I. and in St-John's.
In the West, I think they mediocre teams are even worste but I think it's pretty tight.
First of all, Rimouski is not a mediocre team, their 3rd line when being Healthy is better than 7 of the 8 teams in the East.
Skokan-Veilleux-Frolik Caron-Cormier-Cornet Joncas-Fortier-Gratchev
Ok let's look at the mediocre teams : There's Drummond and Val D'or
Now the teams who has what it takes to win it all : Rouyn-Noranda, Baie-Comeau and Gatineau
Now the teams in the middle pack : Québec, Chicoutimi, Victoriaville, Shawinigan and Rimouski
Also, don't you think there's rivalry? Rivalry only exist in the East?
What about the 4 teams between them (Quebec-Chicoutimi-Baie-Comeau and Rimouski) And Drummond-Victo and Rouyn and Val D'or.
I seriously think the west is deeper and there's many teams that could cause some major upset.
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Post by P-O on Jan 10, 2008 15:31:22 GMT -4
Also, you are talking about home games... All the east teams that came here had a rough time and Quebec is an average team (probably the youngest in the league) We beated Saint John, Saint John's, Cape-Breton and lost to PEI with our backup with 4 second left. You talk about Halifax and Baie-Comeau... Baie-Comeau was playing its 3rd game in 48 hours. The rivalry East-West is something pretty bad to compare divisions. You gotta keep in consideration the travel and all. When you travel here and play Val D'or, Rouyn and Gatineau who are 1h apart... and we go there play Moncton, Halifax and Cape-Breton... Look at the weaknesses??? Halifax has what? 2 D-man and the rest? A good goalie?? St-John has depth? So young... a goalie? Right now I would pick Rouyn and Baie-Comeau ahead of Halifax. When Chemistry gel I might change my mind... and this is just on paper
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Post by catnut on Jan 10, 2008 15:39:26 GMT -4
Also, you are talking about home games... All the east teams that came here had a rough time and Quebec is an average team (probably the youngest in the league) We beated Saint John, Saint John's, Cape-Breton and lost to PEI with our backup with 4 second left. You talk about Halifax and Baie-Comeau... Baie-Comeau was playing its 3rd game in 48 hours. The rivalry East-West is something pretty bad to compare divisions. You gotta keep in consideration the travel and all. When you travel here and play Val D'or, Rouyn and Gatineau who are 1h apart... and we go there play Moncton, Halifax and Cape-Breton... Look at the weaknesses??? Halifax has what? 2 D-man and the rest? A good goalie?? St-John has depth? So young... a goalie? Right now I would pick Rouyn and Baie-Comeau ahead of Halifax. When Chemistry gel I might change my mind... and this is just on paper More than one hour between Rouyn and Gatineau 2 hours between Moncton and Halifax. About 1 hour from Moncton to Saint John and Charlottetown. Travelling to St. John's is a piece of cake. It all evens out over the year.
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Post by huskies29 on Jan 10, 2008 15:57:44 GMT -4
5 hours between Rouyn-Noranda and Gatineau.
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Post by bjindaho on Jan 10, 2008 16:11:02 GMT -4
maybe you should actually look at the teams in this division in some depth before you start commenting on them...I wouldn't take Gatineau above ANY of Lewiston, CB, or Saint John. And our middle of the pack is stronger, because they are stronger teams (can play both offense and defense). And no one suggested Halifax didn't have a hole, in fact that is why some (myself included) think they are 2nd or 3rd best in the league.
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Jan 10, 2008 16:16:07 GMT -4
Hey poquebec? Explain this then: Eastern teams are 54-39-3 Overall vs. Telus this year. I suppose that means nothing though, that head-to-head, the east has a much better record.
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Post by trouty on Jan 10, 2008 16:24:20 GMT -4
hahaha St.John's is medicre cause Quebec beat them at home good judgement their in that 1 game we played their in feb you will see a much different team Quebec nor most telus division teams play like garbage when they travel here St.John's is (16-5-1-2) all time here vs anyone in the telus division
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Post by Gman on Jan 10, 2008 17:51:48 GMT -4
poquebec, if you saw more of the east teams you would know that St Johns is on a tear lately, and I predict they will pass Cape Breton and finish 4th behind Halifax, Saint John, Lewiston.
The real test will be when Halifax comes to Quebec, Chicoutimi, RN, and BC. You will likely see our full team there, and you can pass better judgement than you could on a team missing top players all year.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jan 10, 2008 23:55:19 GMT -4
The best teams we have seen come into Moncton this year are Gatineau and BC ... no other teams have looked as good as them. Halifax never shows up with their best game ... they rely too much on talent and not enough on hard work ... and that and their goaltending will prevent them from winning a championship. lol And Gatineau were staked a 3-0 lead before getting steamrolled by Halifax, and BC lost 4-0 in Halifax... how teams look coming through Moncton has no weight on reality, or else we'd be saying Quebec and Chicoutimi are better than Gat and BC... Mon vs Lewy Mon vs Bathurst Hal vs CB ...just some examples of how rivalries will sometimes make games closer than they should be Moncton must have a rivalry with every team in the league because 23 of their 28 losses have been by 2 goals or less.
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Post by Deer on Jan 11, 2008 8:42:05 GMT -4
The best teams we have seen come into Moncton this year are Gatineau and BC ... no other teams have looked as good as them. Halifax never shows up with their best game ... they rely too much on talent and not enough on hard work ... and that and their goaltending will prevent them from winning a championship. lol And Gatineau were staked a 3-0 lead before getting steamrolled by Halifax, and BC lost 4-0 in Halifax... how teams look coming through Moncton has no weight on reality, or else we'd be saying Quebec and Chicoutimi are better than Gat and BC... Mon vs Lewy Mon vs Bathurst Hal vs CB ...just some examples of how rivalries will sometimes make games closer than they should be BaC was on their third game in three days in that visit to Halifax. I'm not saying they're stronger than Halifax, but there needs to be a better measuring stick than that game.
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Post by sec21critic on Jan 11, 2008 8:59:34 GMT -4
The best teams we have seen come into Moncton this year are Gatineau and BC ... no other teams have looked as good as them. Halifax never shows up with their best game ... they rely too much on talent and not enough on hard work ... and that and their goaltending will prevent them from winning a championship. lol And Gatineau were staked a 3-0 lead before getting steamrolled by Halifax, and BC lost 4-0 in Halifax... how teams look coming through Moncton has no weight on reality, or else we'd be saying Quebec and Chicoutimi are better than Gat and BC... Mon vs Lewy Mon vs Bathurst Hal vs CB ...just some examples of how rivalries will sometimes make games closer than they should be Moncton vs. Lewy?? Huh?? I don't look at Moncton vs. Lewy as a "rivalry"... it's just that the year we won the Q, we had a tough time beating them... and the year they won the Q, they had a tough time beating us. I wouldn't call that a rivalry... that's a coincidence. The only real "bad blood" between the two teams happened during the MAINEiacs first year in the league, when Olivier Legault highsticked Nathan Saunders and they fought in the penalty box in pre-season... and that incident was over and done with within a period of two games. PEI and even the Sea Dogs are bigger rivals to the Cats than Lewiston, IMO.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Jan 11, 2008 9:06:25 GMT -4
lol And Gatineau were staked a 3-0 lead before getting steamrolled by Halifax, and BC lost 4-0 in Halifax... how teams look coming through Moncton has no weight on reality, or else we'd be saying Quebec and Chicoutimi are better than Gat and BC... Mon vs Lewy Mon vs Bathurst Hal vs CB ...just some examples of how rivalries will sometimes make games closer than they should be Moncton vs. Lewy?? Huh?? I don't look at Moncton vs. Lewy as a "rivalry"... it's just that the year we won the Q, we had a tough time beating them... and the year they won the Q, they had a tough time beating us. I wouldn't call that a rivalry... that's a coincidence. The only real "bad blood" between the two teams happened during the MAINEiacs first year in the league, when Olivier Legault highsticked Nathan Saunders and they fought in the penalty box in pre-season... and that incident was over and done with within a period of two games. PEI and even the Sea Dogs are bigger rivals to the Cats than Lewiston, IMO. No my point was not about the rivalry... it was about how sometimes (often) the more talented team have trouble with certain teams even though they should win every time... Hal/CB series is always close no matter who is the strong team for that season, as Lewy beat you guys alot in 2006, and you beat them alot last year...
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Jan 11, 2008 9:13:33 GMT -4
lol And Gatineau were staked a 3-0 lead before getting steamrolled by Halifax, and BC lost 4-0 in Halifax... how teams look coming through Moncton has no weight on reality, or else we'd be saying Quebec and Chicoutimi are better than Gat and BC... Mon vs Lewy Mon vs Bathurst Hal vs CB ...just some examples of how rivalries will sometimes make games closer than they should be BaC was on their third game in three days in that visit to Halifax. I'm not saying they're stronger than Halifax, but there needs to be a better measuring stick than that game. Yes I know this... and Im not using it as a measuring stick either... Im just pointing out how we've done so far against these top teams, as its all we have to go on right now. Lots of teams win on 3 in 3 though... we went into Bathurst on a 3 in 3 and lost in a shootout... BC got shutout by us. Now, they werent at full strength (rest) and by no means do I feel we are a lock to beat them ever, but it wasnt a great showing by a team that was at full strength (roster)... but my point was sometimes team play well in one rink, then arent great the next night. make15 basically helps my argument by pointing out how Moncton tend to keep every game tight.... hell, they were in a position to beat RN in their rink last night if not for a 5 minute PP late.... I guess they have hard work issues too, they almost lost at home, at full strength, to Moncton... we beat Moncton while missing our key guys in their rink... The game to game comparison just isnt a real good indicator...
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