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Post by Jacques Strap on Mar 30, 2014 17:09:40 GMT -4
Fans don't need to know anything about player injuries. Is it nice to know, sure.....but at the end of the day, someone's personal health issues is just that, personal. Just because Darcy Ashley plays for the Halifax Mooseheads and was injured during a hockey game, doesn't mean fans have any right to know what the problem is. And second to that, as was mentioned, you don't want your competition to know.....esp. in the playoffs. I agree with not wanting the competition to know, but I believe that these aren't your average teenagers, and it is a business.
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Post by howitzer on Mar 30, 2014 17:45:01 GMT -4
Fans don't need to know anything about player injuries. Is it nice to know, sure.....but at the end of the day, someone's personal health issues is just that, personal. Just because Darcy Ashley plays for the Halifax Mooseheads and was injured during a hockey game, doesn't mean fans have any right to know what the problem is. And second to that, as was mentioned, you don't want your competition to know.....esp. in the playoffs. I agree with not wanting the competition to know, but I believe that these aren't your average teenagers, and it is a business. Average or not average, business no business......someone's personal medical information and privacy trumps all that other stuff. I have no issues with teams releasing information, if they choose to. Whether it's the typical "upper body" "lower body" injury, or in the rare cases nowadays when they'll actually say what the injury is....but that's the team's decision (and I assume the player's too). If they choose to say nothing, then that's where it ends IMO. He has a medical issue and the team has obviously decided against saying anything publically. Pretty much where it ends.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 30, 2014 17:48:04 GMT -4
I agree with not wanting the competition to know, but I believe that these aren't your average teenagers, and it is a business. Average or not average, business no business......someone's personal medical information and privacy trumps all that other stuff. I have no issues with teams releasing information, if they choose to. Whether it's the typical "upper body" "lower body" injury, or in the rare cases nowadays when they'll actually say what the injury is....but that's the team's decision (and I assume the player's too). If they choose to say nothing, then that's where it ends IMO. He has a medical issue and the team has obviously decided against saying anything publically. Pretty much where it ends. I was surprised when Pittsburgh announced that Letang had suffered a stroke. I don't think that was anybodies business and surprised Letang would want people to know that.
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Post by MikeC on Mar 30, 2014 17:52:27 GMT -4
Average or not average, business no business......someone's personal medical information and privacy trumps all that other stuff. I have no issues with teams releasing information, if they choose to. Whether it's the typical "upper body" "lower body" injury, or in the rare cases nowadays when they'll actually say what the injury is....but that's the team's decision (and I assume the player's too). If they choose to say nothing, then that's where it ends IMO. He has a medical issue and the team has obviously decided against saying anything publically. Pretty much where it ends. I was surprised when Pittsburgh announced that Letang had suffered a stroke. I don't think that was anybodies business and surprised Letang would want people to know that. Letang wanted it released. “I hope that by making my condition public at this time, I can help other people by encouraging them to seek medical help if they experience some of the symptoms associated with a stroke — regardless of their age or general health,” Letang said. www.thestar.com/life/2014/02/07/why_did_26yearold_pittsburgh_penguin_kris_letang_have_a_stroke.html
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Post by Porkchop on Mar 30, 2014 22:23:14 GMT -4
they are mum about it because it's nobodies business, but theirs and Ashley's.....the "insider" knowledge like the Ottawa thing is obviously personal information, and shouldn't be shared on the boards, especially without knowing for sure whether it's true or not. Isn't every injury "personal" information? Why do you get to determine if it gets shared or not on this board? How do you know that this poster doeesn't know it to be true? I don't get to determine that.....it was determined by those who started this board. Maybe you should check up on that. Should I let you know why I was to the doctor this week, and which one I went to see? NO, because it's none of your business.....the same as Ashley's situation. Read the post just above from howitzer.....he put it down very well.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Mar 30, 2014 22:34:45 GMT -4
Isn't every injury "personal" information? Why do you get to determine if it gets shared or not on this board? How do you know that this poster doeesn't know it to be true? I don't get to determine that.....it was determined by those who started this board. Maybe you should check up on that. Should I let you know why I was to the doctor this week, and which one I went to see? NO, because it's none of your business.....the same as Ashley's situation. Read the post just above from howitzer.....he put it down very well. C'mon man....there is a huge difference from wanting to know why u went to the Doctor, ridiculous comparison. There is a huge difference between players playing at this level and some kid off the street. I don't want to know if he has herpes, but I am investing my money in this team, and I want to know what his injury is related to hockey. It is info all related to him playing hockey for the Mooseheads, not any other private information about his life. Huge difference in my opinion.
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Post by Porkchop on Mar 30, 2014 22:40:19 GMT -4
I don't get to determine that.....it was determined by those who started this board. Maybe you should check up on that. Should I let you know why I was to the doctor this week, and which one I went to see? NO, because it's none of your business.....the same as Ashley's situation. Read the post just above from howitzer.....he put it down very well. C'mon man....there is a huge difference from wanting to know why u went to the Doctor, ridiculous comparison. There is a huge difference between players playing at this level and some kid off the street. I don't want to know if he has herpes, but I am investing my money in this team, and I want to know what his injury is related to hockey. It is info all related to him playing hockey for the Mooseheads, not any other private information about his life. Huge difference in my opinion. where he chooses to get his treatment, which doc he sees, and what he's there for are not anyone's business though. Yes he is more high profile than the rest of us, but doctors legally can't even give out information without breaking privacy laws......maybe he or his parents didn't want whatever this is shared. You are investing money into this team...that team says he's injured, and most likely from a concussion.....that's really all you need to know...anything beyond that is his business alone. I for one, even as a Bathurst fan, wish him back quickly, as Ashley is probably my favorite Moose player, but where he is today, who he is seeing, etc, is not my business. If he/they wanted more info out, they would put it out. It's a personal/team choice to keep it quiet and that's the way it should be.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Mar 30, 2014 22:53:09 GMT -4
C'mon man....there is a huge difference from wanting to know why u went to the Doctor, ridiculous comparison. There is a huge difference between players playing at this level and some kid off the street. I don't want to know if he has herpes, but I am investing my money in this team, and I want to know what his injury is related to hockey. It is info all related to him playing hockey for the Mooseheads, not any other private information about his life. Huge difference in my opinion. where he chooses to get his treatment, which doc he sees, and what he's there for are not anyone's business though. Yes he is more high profile than the rest of us, but doctors legally can't even give out information without breaking privacy laws......maybe he or his parents didn't want whatever this is shared. You are investing money into this team...that team says he's injured, and most likely from a concussion.....that's really all you need to know...anything beyond that is his business alone. I for one, even as a Bathurst fan, wish him back quickly, as Ashley is probably my favorite Moose player, but where he is today, who he is seeing, etc, is not my business. If he/they wanted more info out, they would put it out. It's a personal/team choice to keep it quiet and that's the way it should be. I am ok with knowing generally what a players injury is. I don't really have to know and I understand medical stuff is covered under privacy laws. I do think when u play hockey at this level a hockey related injury is an ok thing to let the fans in on.
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Post by Porkchop on Mar 30, 2014 23:10:41 GMT -4
where he chooses to get his treatment, which doc he sees, and what he's there for are not anyone's business though. Yes he is more high profile than the rest of us, but doctors legally can't even give out information without breaking privacy laws......maybe he or his parents didn't want whatever this is shared. You are investing money into this team...that team says he's injured, and most likely from a concussion.....that's really all you need to know...anything beyond that is his business alone. I for one, even as a Bathurst fan, wish him back quickly, as Ashley is probably my favorite Moose player, but where he is today, who he is seeing, etc, is not my business. If he/they wanted more info out, they would put it out. It's a personal/team choice to keep it quiet and that's the way it should be. I am ok with knowing generally what a players injury is. I don't really have to know and I understand medical stuff is covered under privacy laws. I do think when u play hockey at this level a hockey related injury is an ok thing to let the fans in on. .....and they've let you know about that already.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Mar 31, 2014 10:19:40 GMT -4
I am ok with knowing generally what a players injury is. I don't really have to know and I understand medical stuff is covered under privacy laws. I do think when u play hockey at this level a hockey related injury is an ok thing to let the fans in on. .....and they've let you know about that already. haha....yes they have. Now I want to know exactly what is wrong with Clapperton.
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Post by Porkchop on Mar 31, 2014 10:27:45 GMT -4
.....and they've let you know about that already. haha....yes they have. Now I want to know exactly what is wrong with Clapperton. I'd actually like to know Clapperton's timeline for getting back....not because it's my business, but because I have him in my hockey pool.
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Post by Reesor on Mar 31, 2014 12:18:03 GMT -4
Willy Palov ? moosefan_WillyPalov 5m Austyn Hardie and Brent Andrews will be back for Game 1 vs. Gatineau, Darcy Ashley will not. Upper body injuries for all of them.What we expected I guess.
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Post by Reesor on Apr 1, 2014 7:14:59 GMT -4
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 1, 2014 7:33:52 GMT -4
where he chooses to get his treatment, which doc he sees, and what he's there for are not anyone's business though. Yes he is more high profile than the rest of us, but doctors legally can't even give out information without breaking privacy laws......maybe he or his parents didn't want whatever this is shared. You are investing money into this team...that team says he's injured, and most likely from a concussion.....that's really all you need to know...anything beyond that is his business alone. I for one, even as a Bathurst fan, wish him back quickly, as Ashley is probably my favorite Moose player, but where he is today, who he is seeing, etc, is not my business. If he/they wanted more info out, they would put it out. It's a personal/team choice to keep it quiet and that's the way it should be. I am ok with knowing generally what a players injury is. I don't really have to know and I understand medical stuff is covered under privacy laws. I do think when u play hockey at this level a hockey related injury is an ok thing to let the fans in on. You don't seem to understand what privacy is. It has nothing to do with you being ok in knowing what a player's injury is. It isn't about you at all.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 1, 2014 7:41:03 GMT -4
There is nothing wrong with knowing a player is injured ... it is disclosing what that injury is that brings up the privacy issue.
Then there is the age issue. Nobody but the parents can disclose the medical condition of 16 and 17 YO player ... 18 to 20 can legally speak for themselves. And those are birthday related ages ... not hockey ages. So an 18 YO who hasn't quite turned 18 (late birthday) is still a monor.
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