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Post by goeaglesgo on Oct 15, 2014 11:01:15 GMT -4
Maybe this paves the way for Samuel L'Itallien to be called up and possibly stick, thought he did pretty well in camp and exhibition. Stephen Sisco possibly to replace Gray on the fourth line and judging by his tryout at camp he's not affraid to drop the gloves either. We will see what Dumont will do but one thing is for certain, we need more forwards in our lineup.
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Post by jamesnorris on Oct 15, 2014 11:23:54 GMT -4
Maybe this paves the way for Samuel L'Itallien to be called up and possibly stick, thought he did pretty well in camp and exhibition. Stephen Sisco possibly to replace Gray on the fourth line and judging by his tryout at camp he's not affraid to drop the gloves either. We will see what Dumont will do but one thing is for certain, we need more forwards in our lineup. but when Darcy was sent down, almost everyone said they needed defense & goaltending? From what I understood, there was no way for the teams needs to change between then & Christmas! Get him!!!!!
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 15, 2014 11:41:29 GMT -4
Maybe this paves the way for Samuel L'Itallien to be called up and possibly stick, thought he did pretty well in camp and exhibition. Stephen Sisco possibly to replace Gray on the fourth line and judging by his tryout at camp he's not affraid to drop the gloves either. We will see what Dumont will do but one thing is for certain, we need more forwards in our lineup. but when Darcy was sent down, almost everyone said they needed defense & goaltending? From what I understood, there was no way for the teams needs to change between then & Christmas! Get him!!!!! Your agenda here is getting old. That was and still is what was needed. Doesn't mean other positions can't/won't be upgraded on though. Players retiring from the sport and going home causes an opening in the lineup that needs to be filled. You replied to a post suggesting who the replacements for that player could be with a sarcasm filled post that adds nothing to the discussion.
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Post by jamesnorris on Oct 15, 2014 12:13:41 GMT -4
Your agenda here is getting old. That was and still is what was needed. Doesn't mean other positions can't/won't be upgraded on though. Players retiring from the sport and going home causes an opening in the lineup that needs to be filled. You replied to a post suggesting who the replacements for that player could be with a sarcasm filled post that adds nothing to the discussion. Still missing the point. If I suggested a player retirement rather than broken legs it would have been met with the same eye rolling lol but the point was shit happens. It's not just Gray, Phelix Martineau was playing on the first line. They have two months to figure out if they want to replace Mason Gray with another meh 4th liner or try to go for a relevant forward and run with 3 1st lines. In those two months Dumont can try to find a mix where one of Darcy/Bishop/Farrell play on the wing or keep them at center. If the D tightens up and/or Brassard gets back on track, maybe the need for a forward will outweigh the need for a D/G. If the results continue as they have been, maybe a relevant team makes a stupid offer for someone like Darcy that will put CB in an great position for next season. Plenty of time before decisions are actually made
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 15, 2014 12:49:22 GMT -4
Your agenda here is getting old. That was and still is what was needed. Doesn't mean other positions can't/won't be upgraded on though. Players retiring from the sport and going home causes an opening in the lineup that needs to be filled. You replied to a post suggesting who the replacements for that player could be with a sarcasm filled post that adds nothing to the discussion. Still missing the point. If I suggested a player retirement rather than broken legs it would have been met with the same eye rolling lol but the point was shit happens. It's not just Gray, Phelix Martineau was playing on the first line. They have two months to figure out if they want to replace Mason Gray with another meh 4th liner or try to go for a relevant forward and run with 3 1st lines. In those two months Dumont can try to find a mix where one of Darcy/Bishop/Farrell play on the wing or keep them at center. If the D tightens up and/or Brassard gets back on track, maybe the need for a forward will outweigh the need for a D/G. If the results continue as they have been, maybe a relevant team makes a stupid offer for someone like Darcy that will put CB in an great position for next season. Plenty of time before decisions are actually made And you're also missing the point that all the discussion are happening now. Yes nothing can happen for 2 months, we know that already it's the rules of the league. But if you think the GM is sitting by waiting to see what he has you're mistaken. He has the assets to add for this year and next and will be buying with that in mind. Everyone else sees that as a fact, you seem to be having troubles with it. The decision of who is the 12th forward is minor in comparison. You seen it as an in to push your 'nobody knows what we're doing yet' agenda. In reality it plays no factor as the decisions on what to do have already been decided and are in play now. You've already flip flopped from 'no buying so we're never bad again' to 'next year is the year' which indicates a huge buying presence next year. It's been clear since the start when Svechnikov reported as advertised and emphasized by getting Darcy back and moving Legare that Dumont believes he can buy for both years. Losing Gray for a replacement in house for a few months has nothing to really do with it, yet you seen it as your opportunity to yet again get on your soap box.
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Post by jamesnorris on Oct 15, 2014 13:06:53 GMT -4
And you're also missing the point that all the discussion are happening now. Yes nothing can happen for 2 months, we know that already it's the rules of the league. But if you think the GM is sitting by waiting to see what he has you're mistaken. He has the assets to add for this year and next and will be buying with that in mind. Everyone else sees that as a fact, you seem to be having troubles with it. Orly? Who said Dumont isn't/shouldn't be inquiring about who's available? That's normal with Darcy, without Darcy, going for it, not going for it, etc. You've already flip flopped from 'no buying so we're never bad again' to 'next year is the year' which indicates a huge buying presence next year. Yep. I really did just flip to 'next year is the year' eh? Next year should still be the go-for-it year and this year you try to make a run & get a bunch of experience for all those returnees. It's been clear since the start when Svechnikov reported as advertised and emphasized by getting Darcy back and moving Legare that Dumont believes he can buy for both years. Losing Gray for a replacement in house for a few months has nothing to really do with it, yet you seen it as your opportunity to yet again get on your soap box. It's been clear via what? Dumont said nothing to suggest that he can/will buy for both years. It's your opinion. If you're going to keep responding to me, try responding to stuff I actually say rather than the assumptions you've made. I guess you could apply that same logic when you tell me what Dumont is thinking.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 15, 2014 13:45:02 GMT -4
And you're also missing the point that all the discussion are happening now. Yes nothing can happen for 2 months, we know that already it's the rules of the league. But if you think the GM is sitting by waiting to see what he has you're mistaken. He has the assets to add for this year and next and will be buying with that in mind. Everyone else sees that as a fact, you seem to be having troubles with it. Orly? Who said Dumont isn't/shouldn't be inquiring about who's available? That's normal with Darcy, without Darcy, going for it, not going for it, etc. You've already flip flopped from 'no buying so we're never bad again' to 'next year is the year' which indicates a huge buying presence next year. Yep. I really did just flip to 'next year is the year' eh? Next year should still be the go-for-it year and this year you try to make a run & get a bunch of experience for all those returnees. It's been clear since the start when Svechnikov reported as advertised and emphasized by getting Darcy back and moving Legare that Dumont believes he can buy for both years. Losing Gray for a replacement in house for a few months has nothing to really do with it, yet you seen it as your opportunity to yet again get on your soap box. It's been clear via what? Dumont said nothing to suggest that he can/will buy for both years. It's your opinion. If you're going to keep responding to me, try responding to stuff I actually say rather than the assumptions you've made. I guess you could apply that same logic when you tell me what Dumont is thinking. No point debating anything with you. You choose to have no opinion then criticize others who do. We will see come the trade deadline whether we buy or sell or stand pat. I am saying that as of nowt we buy 18's and 19's for this year and next and shore up areas such as stablizing the blueline and goaltending. Only thing that changes that are season ending injuries to Darcy or Svechnikov before the Christmas holidays. History tells me that's the only position to take with a team like this. History is what i'm using to base my opinion. I'll have no problem admitting i'm wrong when/if the day comes. It's obvious you see an issue with taking a stand and defending it. That's your call. You can take the last word. Everyone can see through you after this entire thread so choose your words wisely.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Oct 15, 2014 13:49:03 GMT -4
Getting a little off track I think, the conversation was what, if anything, Dumont should do in the interim to fill the temporary holes that have been created. We have one forward retired, one on long term injury and two are out day-to day. Unless Simard and Svechnikov are ready to go, we are down four forwards and had to use a defenceman up front the last game. While on the subject of callups and/or replacements, does anybody know the status of 19 year old Michael Lyle, is he still our property or did he clear waivers and report to the Junior A team that held his rights? Is he eligible for a callup or not?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 15, 2014 13:53:44 GMT -4
Getting a little off track I think, the conversation was what, if anything, Dumont should do in the interim to fill the temporary holes that have been created. We have one forward retired, one on long term injury and two are out day-to day. Unless Simard and Svechnikov are ready to go, we are down four forwards and had to use a defenceman up front the last game. While on the subject of callups and/or replacements, does anybody know the status of 19 year old Michael Lyle, is he still our property or did he clear waivers and report to the Junior A team that held his rights? Is he eligible for a callup or not? These questions are things we used to have answered by the CB Post but their cookie cutter coverage results in a very bland delivery of the product through their very stale newspaper. I don't think there's really any way of knowing that re: Lyle's status with us. Giving a couple of the draft picks some ice time would be the best situation in the short term.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Oct 15, 2014 14:35:00 GMT -4
fully agree, the Cape Breton Post coverage of the Eagles is terrible, easier to follw them in the Chronicle Herald, more coverage. As far as callups, I think we can only carry three 16 year olds unless special permission is granted from the league and we are at two now. Hope Simard and Svechnokov are good to go tonight.
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Post by jamesnorris on Oct 15, 2014 15:25:49 GMT -4
No point debating anything with you. You choose to have no opinion then criticize others who do. We will see come the trade deadline whether we buy or sell or stand pat. I am saying that as of nowt we buy 18's and 19's for this year and next and shore up areas such as stablizing the blueline and goaltending. Only thing that changes that are season ending injuries to Darcy or Svechnikov before the Christmas holidays. History tells me that's the only position to take with a team like this. History is what i'm using to base my opinion. I'll have no problem admitting i'm wrong when/if the day comes. It's obvious you see an issue with taking a stand and defending it. That's your call. You can take the last word. Everyone can see through you after this entire thread so choose your words wisely. You're basing your opinion on history and I'm basing my opinion on the future. You have to get over this "no opinion" bull crap, it doesn't even make sense. By simply saying I disagree with a bad trade idea, I have an opinion. You keep acting like you're so noble for making a blind statement in October and standing by it until you've finally been proven wrong. My approach was to stick with my original view (go for it next year) and gather as much information as possible about the current team (not previous teams) before altering my original stance (which I've said multiple times I'm more than willing to alter). You're right though, by having my own stance and defending it I clearly display issues with people having a stance and defending it But like you said, we will see come the trade deadline whether CB decides to buy or sell or stand... because.... that's how life works, we know what happens after it happens I hope you were serious about the last word stuff though, it'd be nice if I didn't read you shoving your opinion down my throat again.
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Post by hal on Oct 15, 2014 15:26:22 GMT -4
Wasn't Lyle outright released ?
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Post by capebretoner on Oct 15, 2014 18:55:10 GMT -4
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Post by thetruth on Oct 18, 2014 20:11:22 GMT -4
Gray seemed to be a very good kid,we need guys like him on the team vey sorry to see him go in this way!
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