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Post by rocketlauncher on Oct 7, 2007 23:40:58 GMT -4
I have been perplexed recently by the appearnace of Maxim Cliche on Morrison's line. Most everyone feels he is way out of his league out there. For some reason it occured to me that perhaps they have placed him there in hopes that a few pucks will bounce off his ass into the net by playing with strong players in efforts to increase his (apparent) trade value so they can get as much from him as possible at a Christmas time trade. If this is the case, I gotta say I would be impressed with Serge's sneaky tactic.
As for Malouin, another question has been eating at me. They dress him in his fair share of games, but he usually only sees 2-3 shifts per game while Deighan and Clow are getting more and more ice time in the games they appear in. Could this also be a strategy to make him appear to be a regular in the lineup by number of games played....despite amount of icetime.....to try to get more trade value from him too? If this is the case, clever, but unfair. Mally needs a chance to play more so he can develop. How can we just give up on him before giving him a real shot?
These thoughts just occured to me off the top of my head. Thoughts people?
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Post by Fusion on Oct 8, 2007 7:42:17 GMT -4
Although one could take it that way I doubt it.
My guess it's just bad decision after bad decision. I think Malouin deserves more ice time and Cliche, as a huge project, is not panning out at all. If he peaks at all it will be when he's twenty and even then I don't see much coming from him. He's too meek and mild of a player to use his size and gets in the way of Morrison and Walker most of the time. I hate to say give up the player but I'm not sure the current direction with Cliche is the right one.
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Post by hockeydog on Oct 8, 2007 9:32:24 GMT -4
cliche is just not good enough. why not try maclean on that line as it looks like the 2nd and 3rd lines are set right now. he has offensive skill, and can at least keep up. with locke injured, and not sure how serious, there is not many other choices, and maclean has looked good, when he gets on the ice.
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Post by ot on Oct 8, 2007 14:25:35 GMT -4
I agree with Mclean, something has to be done with Cliche, the biggest hold back I see from watching him is his skating, unfortunatelly this is something, at his age, that can not be corrected, this should have been addressed two, three years ago and because of this our top line is not producing as they could. By putting a qualified player on that line, and moving Cliche to third line, where the skating may not be as much of a problem we may see some results becasue as of now our third and forth lines are not producing, when they see the ice that is.
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Post by rocketrumble on Oct 8, 2007 15:24:04 GMT -4
would Cliche make the Abbies?
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Post by nolman29 on Oct 8, 2007 18:18:26 GMT -4
I hate seeing Cliche out with walker and morrison.
Cliche should just keep serving penalties. Thats all hes good for.
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Post by Score on Oct 8, 2007 19:12:36 GMT -4
Cliche should just keep serving penalties. Thats all hes good for.  I think Cliche is getting a bum deal here..... Jean has him on a line that he just does not belong on.....it's not the kids fault. He has a great shot, and will score goals. His skating is off, sure. However, you don't need to be the best skater to score goals. Inside the offensive zone, Cliche is dangerous. Jean has him on the top line, and he looks out of place.......'cause he is. Another bad move by Jean. Cliche is a player that I feel is a bit underrated. |
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Post by rocketlauncher on Oct 8, 2007 23:37:24 GMT -4
OK...so if Cliche deserves to stay, and we are looking to inprove out offense...who goes?
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Post by Stuck in a Loop... on Oct 8, 2007 23:49:13 GMT -4
Well if we look at next Year best choices are Lachaine Locke Main Smchdit Gervais Maybe Lafleur if Gelinas wins 18 games in a row lol and of course Paynter
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Post by IslandersHKY on Oct 9, 2007 7:56:41 GMT -4
Cliche should just keep serving penalties. Thats all hes good for. I think Cliche is getting a bum deal here..... Jean has him on a line that he just does not belong on.....it's not the kids fault. He has a great shot, and will score goals. His skating is off, sure. However, you don't need to be the best skater to score goals. Inside the offensive zone, Cliche is dangerous. Jean has him on the top line, and he looks out of place.......'cause he is. Another bad move by Jean. Cliche is a player that I feel is a bit underrated. I agree with Score here. Cliche may not be the right fit on that top line but most players on the Rocket would look out of place playing with Morrison and Walker. IMO Cliche may not be working out as a top scoring line forward but he is still only 18, he has shown skill and he is giving his best so I don't think it is fair for so many people to be crapping on him about it. And on topic what is interesting is Quebec is currently in a situation where they are going to have to move 1 of their 20 yr olds. Desfosses is pretty much a lock to stay given they have no other goalie options. And Bergeron is their captain so it is unlikely that he would move although you never know with Roy. That leaves Lacroix and Ryan as their two most likely options. Personally I would love to have either player added to the Rocket but with their Defense badly needing some help I could see Lacroix as being the odd man out. And for the Rocket to get him maybe they could offer Cliche and a 3rd round pick. To me that price would be reasonable given what was paid for guys like Howes and other 20 yr olds. Sure Lacroix has had a hot start but he only had 22 goals and 53 pts last season and after watching him on Friday it certainly looks like he has been feeding off of Petit & Stefanovich so Quebec can probably find someone else for that line and Cliche could play on their 3rd line. Now Quebec won't be in a rush to make a move with Bergeron's injury but when he comes back if this move was made the Rocket could look like this. Walker-Morrison-Lacroix Kana-Doyle-Latal McKinley-Lachaine-Locke MacLean-DesRoches-Paynter Lessard-Gervais Southorn-Malouin Main-Clow/Deighan Now I really love Main on our checking line but if we lost Swit it would probably be the best thing to move Main back especially since he isn't really an offensive player. To me a move like this would be the best thing to help this team (after Savard fires Jean ;D). |
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Post by bois on Oct 9, 2007 9:38:54 GMT -4
So let me get this straight you think Lacroix is inflating stats by playing with top linemates in Quebec and you would want the Rocket to deal one of our 2 18 year old forwards plus a top pick to acquire him to inflate stats playing with top linemates here in PEI?
and what do you propose we do about next year??
a top line playing 45% of the game full of twenty year olds... sounds like a recipe for long term disaster to me
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Post by IslandersHKY on Oct 9, 2007 12:08:13 GMT -4
So let me get this straight you think Lacroix is inflating stats by playing with top linemates in Quebec and you would want the Rocket to deal one of our 2 18 year old forwards plus a top pick to acquire him to inflate stats playing with top linemates here in PEI? and what do you propose we do about next year?? a top line playing 45% of the game full of twenty year olds... sounds like a recipe for long term disaster to me Bois you missed what I was trying to say. On the surface a guy like Lacroix with 6 goals and 10 pts in the first 10 games may sound like he isn't available. BUT ... as I said based on what I say from Friday Lacroix has been feeding off of Petite and Stefanovich so Quebec can probably find someone else for that line. And the reason he would cost so much is that he is a proven scorer who would also feed off of Morrison & Walker. And so the cost to get him wouldn't be cheap. As well, you have been very clear in your desire to add a 20 yr old forward and go for it this season so I'm not sure what now you are flip flopping on where your priority is. Focussing on this season or next season? As I said I like Cliche but he doesn't fit on the first line. And if we want to add a legit top line player we will have to give up some assets. What I really don't understand is how people seem to think we can simply add a top forward or defense without giving up someone of value. And if Quebec losses Lacroix they are going to want a forward back in exchange. Likewise if they move Ryan they will want a defenseman back in exchange. |
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Post by bois on Oct 9, 2007 12:29:47 GMT -4
A 20 year old should have been added BEFORE the season began.. I have not changed my stance at that at all
I am not a huge fan of Lacroix.. but he would be an upgrade sure
My point however was you must look at the roster makeup and deal from a position of strength... our main position of strength is young defense.. not forwards
and I would never propose loading up an entire top line with overage players.. you simply must get some of the younger players who will be leaders in years to come into the top 6
if we were to deal with Quebec.. i'd prefer trying to acquire Ryan.. tough, mobile, and winning experience
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